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I find the idea useful, but not the way you suppose to implement it. Unlike FL Reaper has seperate colors for odd/even tracks, so that would mean 4 additional entries:
- Main bar background (odd main bars, odd track numbers) - Main bar background (even main bars, odd track numbers) - Main bar background (odd main bars, even track numbers) - Main bar background (even main bars, even track numbers) I somehow don't like that. At the expense of total customization I would rather go with something like: - Brightness offset on even bar counts Which would simply apply this offset to the colors you choose for odd/even tracks. Additional thought: Seeing your pic, FL seems to adjust color alternation depending on the horizontal zoom level. So strictly speaking this is not a coloring of odd/even bars at all, but groups (in your pic) of 4 bars with one color and the next 4 bars with the other color. I assume this grouping changes according to the zoom level, so there is always a reasonable spaced color alternation. How does this work with time signature changes? |
07-13-2009 05:23 AM | |||
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How about (to start with?) a Preference to use either alternate track colours or alternate 4-bar-duration colours?
As in: [img]http://img32.**************/img32/1333/r305dstracks05.png[/img] And it's always every 4-bars, regardless of time signature changes. |
07-13-2009 05:32 AM | |||
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What Darkstar says makes a lot sense to me.
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07-13-2009 05:45 AM | |||
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For drum editing, it is best imo to have every other bar be a diff color.
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07-13-2009 05:50 AM | |||
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True. Maybe making the distance of color change user selectable.
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07-13-2009 05:53 AM | |||
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DarkStar, that's smart :) I like the way you smuggled in horizontal track divider lines (http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=65) seemlessly into your mockup.
EDIT: But I agree that 4 bar groups are not always the optimum. I'd prefer a zoom dependent automatic adjust by far. |
07-13-2009 05:55 AM | ||
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If we can optionally have horizontal grid lines (separating each track)... then, alternate bar shading makes a lot of sense. Like in DarkStar's mockup. I don't get the meaning of a fixed 4-bar shading, but this can be user customizable and all is well.
There is a (different but) related FR that complements this one very well: http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=169 |
07-13-2009 06:31 AM | ||
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I'd really like to see vertical alternating background colours, too. Personally I'd like it configurable to: musical measure, or any other amount of time that the timeline can display. I'd have it as a constant at any zoom level at present. (Though it might be good to have an option at some point to make it jump to different measure-lengths at different zoom levels. Imagine a config table like this: zoom level 1=4 bars; zoom level 2=4 bars; zoom level 3=4 bars; zoom level 4=2 bars; zoom level 5=2 bars; zoom level 6=1 bar; etc.) |
07-13-2009 06:38 AM | |||
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I did say "to start with" - so that the good guys would implement it :).
There's some good follow-on ideas coming up too. [Now I'm off to smuggle something else in - a la Long John Silver] |
07-14-2009 06:48 AM | |||
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Good posts everyone
it also work like this in the piano roll. I will point that out in my piano roll video. I will show how easy it is to jump between the bars, much more pleasant for your eyes/brain to catch the right spot for the right note :) |
07-14-2009 11:55 AM | |||
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Great idea, using the existing two colours in a different placement scheme !!
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07-14-2009 12:47 PM | |||
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More about the focusing of such a grid system can be found in this thread (+ video):
A VIDEO presentation of a powerful grid system in the piano roll. |
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07-14-2009 04:10 PM | |||
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The color separation should represent a full "pattern" (patterns-main stages), this help you to know where you stand...usually when you zoom-in in reaper, you don't know where you are...you lose perspective. The idea of the colors is to give you a logical perspective which the grid lines can't give you. maybe it is possible to let the user choose between "permanent, automatic" (+ it will allow the user to set size of it in case that he set it to permanent.). i suggest you to see this: http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=39375 VIDEO INCLUDED...(this will give you a great point of view about the whole thing and much more...) |
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07-27-2009 05:43 AM | |||
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wondering, why no one mentioned that,
but this FR must apply first of all to the midi editors, as that the place to make beats. |
08-02-2009 02:46 AM | |||
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