lolz-- 'ol dave pensado or rick rubin do not give out this info-it's up to each to decide as their choice.
choice is the only thing most humans actually *do* by their own free will-nobody here is ever,ever on their own- each has guides..to...guide and...inspire
all people here-can been guided by unseen masters_ which can take,many,if not all forms.
be guided by experiences,as well by intuitive forces.
why 'listen' to music--> when 1 can
become the music.