@Karbo: lol, you know me pretty well.
I come from a family of males (uncles, etc, etc)) where pretty lively debates were the norm from like, early childhood, watching and later participating, at family gatherings. It's probably why I need "assistance?" avoiding them
, it just all feels so... normal.
An hour long backyard barbeque debate about Vietnam or politics or something was pretty normal in my family. But yeah, i need help not rubbernecking.
. A cop throwing up a detour a few blocks from the scene of the accident helps a little.
Now... if I can just leave this thread I can work on the other 9 steps.