Old 01-25-2017, 02:54 PM   #2161
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Not recently- I tried replacing the folder with the default one and tried on a blank project and still having the error.
Hmm. Ok - what about your default strip (were you not using one?). Has that changed at all? Can you check the strip file (for your default strip) is in the strips folder and that it contains some data?

Possibly rename it to something else - and name another strip file the same as your default (then swap back again if it makes no difference).

If not - can you send me links to your resources folder/ and project file and save script data folder for the project.
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Old 01-25-2017, 03:51 PM   #2162
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a cosmetic Q.
is it possible to have also project name at the top, alongside strip set and track names?
(PROJECT - STRIP SET - TRACK)
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a cosmetic Q.
is it possible to have also project name at the top, alongside strip set and track names?
(PROJECT - STRIP SET - TRACK)
Yes - will be in next update.
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Old 01-25-2017, 04:40 PM   #2164
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Thanks as always!!
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as an experienced user want to share latest finding:
i think (if i didn't miss, there is already) might be helpful to put in to description/tips tricks,
when you add a new parameters (even single one) to an existing strip that contains Snapshots, loading the snapshots one by one and re saving/overwriting them seems important otherwise snapshot switches becomes glitchy...
after the re save done, they works perfect again!

this cost me about 4 hours to figured it out clearly,
because i was suspecting Rea Pitches (9 instances) in - The Project..
so i removed them (tears in my heart)
then i realized the real reason while fiddling around with the combinations ..
happy end!
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Old 01-25-2017, 05:00 PM   #2165
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Thanks as always!!
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as an experienced user want to share latest finding:
i think (if i didn't miss, there is already) might be helpful to put in to description/tips tricks,
when you add a new parameters (even single one) to an existing strip that contains Snapshots, loading the snapshots one by one and re saving/overwriting them seems important otherwise snapshot switches becomes glitchy...
after the re save done, they works perfect again!

this cost me about 4 hours to figured it out clearly,
because i was suspecting Rea Pitches (9 instances) in - The Project..
so i removed them (tears in my heart)
then i realized the real reason while fiddling around with the combinations ..
happy end!
Firstly - apologies for causing you 4 hours of delay - I know exactly how frustrating that can be :/

- ok - I'll look into it when I have a moment. Is this just the page snapshots? (I suspect so).
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Old 01-25-2017, 05:12 PM   #2166
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Firstly - apologies for causing you 4 hours of delay - I know exactly how frustrating that can be :/

- ok - I'll look into it when I have a moment. Is this just the page snapshots? (I suspect so).
oh! but it wasn't a report or complain!

i thought by design and if i remember correctly
there will be a function to this at some point,
something like apply current value to all snapshots ..
anyway,

not just the Page in my case,
also the subsets but subsets also covers all parameters in the page, if make sense.
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Hi and thanks for this great script. I want to ask you something.

Is it possible to trigger snapshots with midi controller? if yes how?
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Hi and thanks for this great script. I want to ask you something.

Is it possible to trigger snapshots with midi controller? if yes how?
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Hi and thanks for this great script. I want to ask you something.

Is it possible to trigger snapshots with midi controller? if yes how?
Currently no - but I will add when I get a mo.
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IbO , do you think is it possible to trigger snapshots with midi controller? I really like this script and I want to use this live on stage. I need to be mouse-free. I hope you like this idea and it's is not hard to add this feature.

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Currently no - but I will add when I get a mo.
I've got my answer. Thanks
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oh! but it wasn't a report or complain!

i thought by design and if i remember correctly
there will be a function to this at some point,
something like apply current value to all snapshots ..
anyway,

not just the Page in my case,
also the subsets but subsets also covers all parameters in the page, if make sense.
Can I confirm - is the glitchyness triggered by adding a new control to a strip? - or when adding a control to a subset?

and if just adding to a strip causes a problem - it causes it to both page and subset snapshots?
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Can I confirm - is the glitchyness triggered by adding a new control to a strip? - or when adding a control to a subset?

and if just adding to a strip causes a problem - it causes it to both page and subset snapshots?

Hi,
i was preparing to reply with a video,
with the answer : yes, adding a new control to a strip and it causes it to both page and subset snapshots.

but..there is a big but!!

i open the project and realized Page Snapshots become glitchy again..
which i saved (overwrite) them yesterday one by one and they were working good, except the first 20 snapshots ...
yesterday i was thinking: they also contains microtonic program change so this might be the reason to slow switch..
but i had an idea today (FINALLY) ... what if i "fresh / re capture" all the page snapshots to a Subset"

there was an old subset with 1 snapshot in, i delete it,
checked all the parameters already LEARNed then captured all page snapshots one by one in to this
and renamed the subset : "Clone The Page" Subset.

Here is the test video:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...2laSWliVEN4cXc

you will notice easily, in the PAGE even if i re-click to already loaded snapshot there is a pause in the meters...
(more than half of the pause time because of screen capture ... as a plus note: also i have to switch Asio latency 512 to 1024 to record video properly.. normally its better that this...)
anyway,
i think its because of all the Page snapshots actually old ( i just overwrite them in time couple of times) except
(at 4:25 in the video) in the PAGE Snapshots nr# 110: 16 BackToReaPitch-aa till nr# 114: all was new after i re added Rea Pitches back and seems they has no glitch while switching...

in the second video i tested via adding one parameter to the strip,
everything seems same! Clone one still works perfect!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...mw5eXlyM2FCWmM


summarize:
-seems specific to me,
-project is old,
-some of the snapshots there since the ice age
as a final:
just to being sure,
i will delete all Page Snapshots and i will re capture them back again from the Clone Page Subset.

sorry for all the confusion i caused!
now i think i have to delete that stpd "advance user finding" thingy post to save my dignity
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Hi,
i was preparing to reply with a video,
with the answer : yes, adding a new control to a strip and it causes it to both page and subset snapshots.

but..there is a big but!!

i open the project and realized Page Snapshots become glitchy again..
which i saved (overwrite) them yesterday one by one and they were working good, except the first 20 snapshots ...
yesterday i was thinking: they also contains microtonic program change so this might be the reason to slow switch..
but i had an idea today (FINALLY) ... what if i "fresh / re capture" all the page snapshots to a Subset"

there was an old subset with 1 snapshot in, i delete it,
checked all the parameters already LEARNed then captured all page snapshots one by one in to this
and renamed the subset : "Clone The Page" Subset.

Here is the test video:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...2laSWliVEN4cXc

you will notice easily, in the PAGE even if i re-click to already loaded snapshot there is a pause in the meters...
(more than half of the pause time because of screen capture ... as a plus note: also i have to switch Asio latency 512 to 1024 to record video properly.. normally its better that this...)
anyway,
i think its because of all the Page snapshots actually old ( i just overwrite them in time couple of times) except
(at 4:25 in the video) in the PAGE Snapshots nr# 110: 16 BackToReaPitch-aa till nr# 114: all was new after i re added Rea Pitches back and seems they has no glitch while switching...

in the second video i tested via adding one parameter to the strip,
everything seems same! Clone one still works perfect!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...mw5eXlyM2FCWmM


summarize:
-seems specific to me,
-project is old,
-some of the snapshots there since the ice age
as a final:
just to being sure,
i will delete all Page Snapshots and i will re capture them back again from the Clone Page Subset.

sorry for all the confusion i caused!
now i think i have to delete that stpd "advance user finding" thingy post to save my dignity
Thanks for the extensive investigation! I will read it properly and watch the vids when I get time.

I've been busy trying to iron out some issues with Nebula 4 and Stripper - turns out the issues are VST3 related - and after much frustration and head scratching - I installed the VST2 version purely in hope - and it works great .

so I'm getting there with the EQ control - wasted several hours today - but it works nicely and even had a test run in a real work project - and it works well.

Still a few things to add but v. nearly ready
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Thanks for the extensive investigation! I will read it properly and watch the vids when I get time.

I've been busy trying to iron out some issues with Nebula 4 and Stripper - turns out the issues are VST3 related - and after much frustration and head scratching - I installed the VST2 version purely in hope - and it works great .

so I'm getting there with the EQ control - wasted several hours today - but it works nicely and even had a test run in a real work project - and it works well.

Still a few things to add but v. nearly ready

hey! Nebula users wake up! something great about to happen! here

now...more test:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...3VWNVNmanJrQ2c
video recorded via pause while loading projects / deleting the snapshots etc.

about the projects:
(KILLTIME_273__) main-first project that i captured all the page snapshots to Clone Subset..
as you can see Clone Subset works great...

(KILLTIME_274__CleanThePAGESSHOTS) deleted all the old Page Snapshots and re captured back form the Clone Sub...
then Page and Clone sub started to glitchyness.

in the video at 4:18 i start to remove all the Clone sub snapshots to see if its make any better, but there wasn't any differences..
also didn't record to the video but i re load the saved (KILLTIME_274__NOSubCLONE) project while video record paused,
to see if fresh opening makes any differences..but no luck..

at 6:12 re loaded the (KILLTIME_274__CleanThePAGESSHOTS) this time to remove all the Page snapshots, to see if any better..
again no luck...

at the final i load the main (KILLTIME_273__) again and Clone Subset still works perfect!
...
tomorrow
i will do two more test with (KILLTIME_274__CleanThePAGESSHOTS) project,
but this time instead of deleting the Page and Clone i will add a brand new Subset and
1- just re capture Clone Subsets to there,
2- just re capture Page to there
to see problem is the Page or Subset...

that's all the combinations i can imagine so far.

ps. nothing to hurry, nothing urgent!
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hey! Nebula users wake up! something great about to happen! here
oh yeah, so looking forward to the next update, checking every few hours here, haha. Ok, I might be slightly mad, but new LBX features regarding macro's and workflow just make me excited, because that will be a major workflow change for the better here in my studio

Ib0, sorry to hear you lost so much time regarding the vst3-thingy, but you're wiser now I guess
Thank you for the info on the coming stuff! always like to read some insights on this side too.
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Not sure if you've been following the developments in this thread..,
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=186637

I can't help but to think how cool a menu like that would be for interacting with cycle-buttons?
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Hi,
ill try to summarize the long story,
(note.. all Subsets are duplicates of the PAGE actually)
created fresh / brand new Subset named "Re Capt PAGE"
and added full page controls then re captured all the PAGE Snapshots in it... worked perfectly smooth!
created second one Subset for re capture the "CLONE THE PAGE" Subset, added all page controls, named "ReCapt CLONE" worked perfectly smooth!

first 2 or 3 mins enogh to see what i mean
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...WE0WEpsWnljOHc
...
then i delete all the old Page and CLONE subset snapshots and re captured back again from the new ones,
finally i delete the new ones...
now PAGE and CLONE works perfectly smooth!!

i am not sure but seems the only suspect is me
because yesterday's test was build on one of the old subsets...
as i try to describe above,
there was one snapshot in it, i deleted, checked and added rest of the Page controls (LEARN) ..
renamed to "CLONE THE PAGE" then re captured Page snapshots in it..
it was working great also..till i remove the Page snapshots and added them back from the CLONE...
...
meh! i couldn't summerize as i imagine but ...here is the Happy End!!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...Gd0aUJLUDZwOWM

again and again sorry for the confusions! because it seems just because of me and my template!
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lb0,

Not sure if you've been following the developments in this thread..,
http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=186637

I can't help but to think how cool a menu like that would be for interacting with cycle-buttons?
I knew what that link was pointing to before I even clicked on it!!

I'll consider something like that in the future - but it would be quite hard to make it work really nicely as making it within Stripper would restrict it's boundaries to within the script window (which isn't great for pop-up menus) - but it would look good. It could be built outside the script window as a separate script (and use project state data to set it up and get returned clicked items) but it probably wouldn't look great as you cannot make scripts without the window and title bar - I would prefer to make it look part of the script.

A basic - more square standard menu would look less 'tacked on'.

I am looking for a new menu solution as the current one doesn't support mousewheel (for me) and also freezes the script until a choice is made - so I have gone as far as thinking hard about a separate menu script, and done a few very basic tests to see how it might work - but not gone the whole hog and created anything yet as it's not been top priority!
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Hi,
ill try to summarize the long story,
(note.. all Subsets are duplicates of the PAGE actually)
created fresh / brand new Subset named "Re Capt PAGE"
and added full page controls then re captured all the PAGE Snapshots in it... worked perfectly smooth!
created second one Subset for re capture the "CLONE THE PAGE" Subset, added all page controls, named "ReCapt CLONE" worked perfectly smooth!

first 2 or 3 mins enogh to see what i mean
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...WE0WEpsWnljOHc
...
then i delete all the old Page and CLONE subset snapshots and re captured back again from the new ones,
finally i delete the new ones...
now PAGE and CLONE works perfectly smooth!!

i am not sure but seems the only suspect is me
because yesterday's test was build on one of the old subsets...
as i try to describe above,
there was one snapshot in it, i deleted, checked and added rest of the Page controls (LEARN) ..
renamed to "CLONE THE PAGE" then re captured Page snapshots in it..
it was working great also..till i remove the Page snapshots and added them back from the CLONE...
...
meh! i couldn't summerize as i imagine but ...here is the Happy End!!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...Gd0aUJLUDZwOWM

again and again sorry for the confusions! because it seems just because of me and my template!
Hi Timbral,

Well - I watched the videos and I can see exactly what you mean by the glitchyness. At the moment I have no idea why it goes like this.

It appears you've fixed the page snapshots in the last video - is this correct? (by painstakingly recalling and saving all the snapshots).

Am I right in thinking if you were to add a new control to your strip - the snapshots will go glitchy again? (I seem to remember this being the original cause you mentioned). Or does it seem ok now?
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Hi Timbral,

Well - I watched the videos and I can see exactly what you mean by the glitchyness. At the moment I have no idea why it goes like this.

It appears you've fixed the page snapshots in the last video - is this correct? (by painstakingly recalling and saving all the snapshots).

Am I right in thinking if you were to add a new control to your strip - the snapshots will go glitchy again? (I seem to remember this being the original cause you mentioned). Or does it seem ok now?
Hi lb0,
yes at the end there was happy end for both page and clone of the page, they are works great now..
didn't add any new yet, but tomorrow i will add a few more parameters,
planning to add a main kick set for gluing with the side chain to the loops part

last empty space at right bottom ... let's see.

EDIT:
forgot to say,
if this workaround works always, i have absolutely no problem with recall / recapture
even if i have to do after adding one-single parameter!

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http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=187078
Here's a discussion about a method to get the keycode of the key that's used to launch a specific script. Would it be possible to have the key that's assigned to open Stripper to close it too? Very handy for quick toggling to make adjustments, then closing to make more room for the arranger window.
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Hi,
still in the re capturing process...
out of curiosity,
are the Track Meters "somehow" included in the snapshots as data?
because just realized, deleting the old meters takes long time as like the other parameters.
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still in the re capturing process...
out of curiosity,
are the Track Meters "somehow" included in the snapshots as data?
because just realized, deleting the old meters takes long time as like the other parameters.
no not included - but will still require reshuffle of snapshot data due to control indexes changing.

However - i know a way to make this process much quicker
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Here's a discussion about a method to get the keycode of the key that's used to launch a specific script. Would it be possible to have the key that's assigned to open Stripper to close it too? Very handy for quick toggling to make adjustments, then closing to make more room for the arranger window.
will add to my list of stuff to add/look into
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no not included - but will still require reshuffle of snapshot data due to control indexes changing.

However - i know a way to make this process much quicker
should i start to cry

also for the delete Subsets
even just for: after deleting snapshots manually would great!
because finally i am sure (in my case), creating new subset and recapturing is the only solution when you add/remove controls... which is i am perfectly happy with it!
but
currently the project start to look like subset cemetery to me

EDIT for one "old" cry: clip indicators.. stay clipped.

and the current look as a final of the night, time to pillow...


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hello evryboddy, I'm back for one little (maybe) stupid question:
Is it possible to have the fx preset list of the vst into the strip, directly without having to open the fx interface ?
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hello evryboddy, I'm back for one little (maybe) stupid question:
Is it possible to have the fx preset list of the vst into the strip, directly without having to open the fx interface ?
Hi Vincent,
best solution so far i found is using Midi Program & Bank Change,
need a little work to prepare but its highly useful!
knobs in the picture, Program and Bank change parameters from ReaControlMIDI
(Bank : MSB or LSB..depends on vst in use)

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best solution so far i found is using Midi Program & Bank Change,
need a little work to prepare but its highly useful!
knobs in the picture, Program and Bank change parameters from ReaControlMIDI
(Bank : MSB or LSB..depends on vst in use)

Okay thank's Timbralzoom It is indeed the fastest to set up! Although this is a bit laborious, I had also thought of making a snapshot of each preset to have the names of the presets.
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Okay thank's Timbralzoom It is indeed the fastest to set up! Although this is a bit laborious, I had also thought of making a snapshot of each preset to have the names of the presets.

this is exactly what i tried a few moths ago ...
its possible only some of the Vsts
that has host automation ID their every single parameter.
(for example "Space Ship Delay" that i upload the strip a few weeks back)

but most of the Vsts has hidden parameters
that handling by the preset manager systems (host & vst itself)
so we cannot access them as a host automation parameter...we cannot snapshot them.
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this is exactly what i tried a few moths ago ...
its possible only some of the Vsts
that has host automation ID their every single parameter.
(for example "Space Ship Delay" that i upload the strip a few weeks back)

but most of the Vsts has hidden parameters
that handling by the preset manager systems (host & vst itself)
so we cannot access them as a host automation parameter...we cannot snapshot them.
Cool thank you very much for this feed back, Thank you for the gift of your experiences !
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Cool thank you very much for this feed back, Thank you for the gift of your experiences !
there is more i can share,
if you start to create a program list file so the reabank to use in ReaControlMIDI
there is some sites there you can easily convert picture to the text
(program names in this case)
also i am not an expert but i found notepad ++ great time saver
to editing long program list (giving numbers etc at once) easily.

as a plus note:
if you can access to the presets folder of the vst and lets say there is dozens preset that you have to copy names...
there is a program "Flash Renamer" it can copy all the file names from a folder via one mouse click to its Filename Editor ..(demo version also does this)
so you can grab long preset name list from there to a txt in a second!

...
anyway,
just let me know, if you need i can create a demo video for this, step by step.

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anyway,
just let me know, if you need i can create a demo video for this, step by step.

waaa It would be great !
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Here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9...WtVRHpreElIbTg
(Gdrive still processing... might take a while to watch HQ without download)

forgot to add controls to the Stripper part...
to see the preset names as knob values,
just be sure show value is active.

happy preset listing
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waouw ! big thank's !!
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just realized if i use Save button on Stripper files get cloned,
with "__" front of the names, planning to delete them after properly save and close the project ..can i?




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just realized if i use Save button on Stripper files get cloned,
with "__" front of the names, planning to delete them after properly save and close the project ..can i?






always pleasure my friend!!
just let me know if i miss anything.
the __ prefixed files will be required in certain circumstances. Basically - it's hard to explain exactly what but

If you close the script using the X - it will save the data using the prefix and then if you save the project - it will need these files or you will lose all your script data. It's basically to fulfill a few requests from users to not automatically save the project when the script data is saved.

Once again - these files aren't clones - and are required and important depending on how things happen within the script. There are occasions when you can delete them - but it's not completely obvious when.

I definitely wouldn't go deleting them - or you could lose all your data!
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oh.. OK! they are now raised to untouchables status!
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oh.. OK! they are now raised to untouchables status!
The good news is - there will only ever be a maximum of one set of __ and one non-prefixed version for every project file saved. (new ones will be created if you save the project under a new name). So basically - only ever delete a script data folder if you are also going to delete the project file (.rpp) itself.

If you have the project file - always keep its data folder if using Stripper with that project. If you clean up the project file - (ie don't need it anymore - it's old) - then you can delete its associated script data folder.
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The good news is - there will only ever be a maximum of one set of __ and one non-prefixed version for every project file saved. (new ones will be created if you save the project under a new name). So basically - only ever delete a script data folder if you are also going to delete the project file (.rpp) itself.

If you have the project file - always keep its data folder if using Stripper with that project. If you clean up the project file - (ie don't need it anymore - it's old) - then you can delete its associated script data folder.
Q. was just out of curiosity,
but thank you for detailed-clear explanation!
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