Old 12-03-2019, 11:08 AM   #2681
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The new Windows installer automatically deletes the old extension file from REAPER's internal Plugins directory.

You should be able to delete the old version from a script while it's running by moving it (or just renaming) and then deleting it at the next startup of REAPER (this is how ReaPack handles extension updates and deletion).

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Old 12-03-2019, 11:13 AM   #2682
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IMHO, it's never smart thing to change paths like this to be honest. It is what it is and it was always in Plugins folder so might as well just leave it there, no harm will happen.
It's following recommended practice though.
From the 000-REAMDE-DO_NOT_INSTALL_VST_PLUGINS_HERE.TXT in Plugins:
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Old 12-03-2019, 11:18 AM   #2683
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The new Windows installer automatically deletes the old extension file (reaper_sws64.dll) from REAPER's internal Plugins directory.

You should be able to delete the old version from a script while it's running by moving or renaming it and deleting it at the next startup of REAPER (this is how ReaPack handles extension updates and deletion).
I supply SWS with REAPER ReWorked, so there is no installer involved.
I can't delete the old version because it is loaded because SWS has a code that handles duplicate SWS extensions and unloads all except one. And it seems the one that gets loaded is 2.10 here.

But I can rename it, yes! I can't remove it, but I can rename it - no idea why. But I'll use it to implement your advice
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Old 12-03-2019, 11:22 AM   #2684
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But I can rename it, yes! I can't remove it, but I can rename it - no idea why. But I'll use it to implement your advice
This is a Windows thing by the way. On macOS and Linux you are allowed to delete an executable file while it's running.

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Old 12-03-2019, 11:51 AM   #2685
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Ok, all sorted and works! Thank you for advice
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:21 PM   #2686
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One thing SWS updated missed in regards to v6 is the introduction of new timebase Beats (auto-stretch at tempo changes). When selected, SWS/AW actions falsely report Beats (position, length, rate) is on while it is not. It would be good to get these fixed and add another action that covers Beats (auto-stretch at tempo changes).

Other than that, I think everything else is covered. And congratulations on fixing the snapshots and envelopes - who ever did that, I bet it was a tremendous job. Thank you!
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:46 PM   #2687
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One thing SWS updated missed in regards to v6 is the introduction of new timebase Beats (auto-stretch at tempo changes). When selected, SWS/AW actions falsely report Beats (position, length, rate) is on while it is not. It would be good to get these fixed and add another action that covers Beats (auto-stretch at tempo changes).
Confirmed. The API doesn't distinguish between those two modes. I posted a request to improve it here: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=227918. A non-ideal workaround should also be possible using chunk parsing.

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Old 12-04-2019, 12:25 AM   #2688
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Confirmed. The API doesn't distinguish between those two modes. I posted a request to improve it here: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=227918. A non-ideal workaround should also be possible using chunk parsing too.
Because it reports state, that would definitely not be an ideal workaround xD I was just about to fix it blindly/without_vs_installed and send you edited cpp file but if there's no API, bollocks then :/

IMHO, this should be a separate per item/track/project option, not a separate timebase. I tried raising the issue on the pre-forum. Seeing that API isn't updated, maybe there's still a chance we see this change.
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:02 PM   #2689
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Windows blocked the bete .exe as a virus (Trojan:Win32/Wacatac.B!ml)
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SWS v2.11.0 beta is now available at https://www.sws-extension.org/download/pre-release!

Future changes will automatically result in new builds being posted there as they are made.



Also note that this update is required for compatibility with REAPER v6.
Windows blocked the beta .exe as a virus (Trojan:Win32/Wacatac.B!ml)

That is from the WIN x64 installer??
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:49 PM   #2691
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False positive.
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Old 12-04-2019, 02:53 PM   #2692
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Hello, it's not clear from reading the last couple pages:

With Reaper V6 now available, does that mean we need to update SWS as well?
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Hello, it's not clear from reading the last couple pages:

With Reaper V6 now available, does that mean we need to update SWS as well?
It's always good to update SWS. In this case, it is kinda mandatory because this build has some fixes needed to make things work with version 6
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Windows blocked the bete .exe as a virus (Trojan:Win32/Wacatac.B!ml)
I got the same thing. I ran the link through VirusTotal to get a second opinion, and it looks like as Evil Dragon said, its a false positive

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/6...0f2a/detection
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Old 12-05-2019, 06:17 AM   #2695
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I got the same thing. I ran the link through VirusTotal to get a second opinion, and it looks like as Evil Dragon said, its a false positive

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/6...0f2a/detection
Thank you for checking - is there a way to override default Windows 10 Virus detection and install the file?
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Old 12-05-2019, 07:49 AM   #2696
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It's always good to update SWS. In this case, it is kinda mandatory because this build has some fixes needed to make things work with version 6
It looks like the stable version hasn't been updated in quite some time though (v2.10.0 on Feb 2019). Is the beta version recommended? Not sure when that was released, but I see v2.11.0 beta is available for download.
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Thank you for checking - is there a way to override default Windows 10 Virus detection and install the file?
I restored the file from the Windows Defender quarantine, and it ignored it when i ran the installer again. Or ,you can temporarily turn off Windows Defender. I think that restoring from quarantine may also whitelist the file, whereas if you temporarily turn off Defender, it'll still detect it when you turn it back on
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Old 12-05-2019, 08:18 AM   #2698
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Is the beta version recommended? Not sure when that was released, but I see v2.11.0 beta is available for download.
Vague memory tells me there was a beta that was V6 related but that's all I can remember. It's just an extension DLL so easy to swap back and forth if needed - all the installer does is copy the file(s) for you into the correct Reaper directory.
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Yes, v2.11.0 beta is the recommended version to use currently as it (compared to v2.10.0 official) fixes quite some bugs and adds support for Reaper v6.
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Old 12-05-2019, 10:08 AM   #2700
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Thanks Karbo/nofish..
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Old 12-05-2019, 12:45 PM   #2701
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Ok, where is that 2.11 (beta) of SWS Extensions? Could not find it anywhere.
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I actually grabbed it from within Reaper.

Extensions -> About SWS Extension..

check mark in Beta releases.. click check now.
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link to the announcement and download:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....29#post2209729
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When I try and download the beta I get "Failed- virus detected"
https://www.sws-extension.org/download/pre-release/
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For me too. MS Security Essential reports: This program is dangerous. Executes commands given by an attacker.
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link to the announcement and download:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....29#post2209729
Thanks! Much Appreciated. Let's test this bugger!
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When I try and download the beta I get "Failed- virus detected"
https://www.sws-extension.org/download/pre-release/

See this post:

https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...postcount=2697
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I restored the file from the Windows Defender quarantine, and it ignored it when i ran the installer again. Or ,you can temporarily turn off Windows Defender. I think that restoring from quarantine may also whitelist the file, whereas if you temporarily turn off Defender, it'll still detect it when you turn it back on
Thank you!
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I submitted the Windows installers to Microsoft and others for analysis. Hopefully the false positive issue will be fixed.

EDIT: The detection has been removed from Windows Defender, Avast and Avira.

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[QUOTE=mykrobinson;2211004]I got the same thing. I ran the link through VirusTotal to get a second opinion, and it looks like as Evil Dragon said, its a false positive

Run the test with the actual file, not with the URL.
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It looks like the stable version hasn't been updated in quite some time though (v2.10.0 on Feb 2019). Is the beta version recommended? Not sure when that was released, but I see v2.11.0 beta is available for download.
They are all stable - they are just tagged pre-release due to open-source nature of the project so contributors have more time to check for any bugs before releasing officially (also, the guy (aka Tim, the founder of SWS) who is responsible for official releases is not around often, so that's one of the reasons too) - but being personally involved with SWS for a number of years and knowing most people who contribute to SWS these days - you really don't have anything to worry about because all of these people are quite knowledgeable when it comes to API - pre-release builds are stable and workable and if anything ever isn't, you will be able to find about it immediately in the what's new.
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I got the same thing. I ran the link through VirusTotal to get a second opinion, and it looks like as Evil Dragon said, its a false positive

Run the test with the actual file, not with the URL.
Virus Total scans the file that is pulled from the link. It's a good way to test a file without actually downloading it and risking infection.

In this particular case, the URL in question is a direct link to the .exe
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Virus Total scans the file that is pulled from the link. It's a good way to test a file without actually downloading it and risking infection.

In this particular case, the URL in question is a direct link to the .exe
VirusTotal will give you a different result if you test the actual file.

9/70 engines detect malicious code in the x64 file:
https://i.ibb.co/S7WH2wg/Clipboard02.jpg
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[QUOTE=Giovanni_B;2212264]
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VirusTotal will give you a different result if you test the actual file.

9/70 engines detect malicious code in the x64 file:
https://i.ibb.co/S7WH2wg/Clipboard02.jpg
well the fact that are heuristic results and also different names ... is a sign of a false positive. So it is safe. You cannot even trust antivirus nowadays.
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well the fact that are heuristic results and also different names ... is a sign of a false positive. So it is safe.
Yeah, I hope so.
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I suppose we can rest since Microsoft investigated and removed the detection as reported by another user here.


All good information, folks. False positives are nothing new, but as has been said, better safe than sorry, and trust but verify.
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I posted a new build to try to address this false positive issue going on with the Windows installers.
https://www.sws-extension.org/downlo...1.0.0-08d3c6fc

Looks like some AV vendors didn't like installers made using the latest version of NSIS.
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Is there a place for feature requests for SWS? Edit: I think I found it on GitHub


Also, continuing on with the Virus theme... when I try to go to http://www.sws-extension.org ... Malware Bytes blocks the page:
Website blocked due to a Trojan
Your Malwarebytes Premium blocked this website because it may contain a Trojan.

We strongly recommend you do not continue.
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bug: SWS/wol: Set selected envelope height to maximum does not work correctly in v6.
Before, it would center the maximized envelope in the arrange view. Now, in v6, last SWS, it does not.
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bug: SWS/wol: Set selected envelope height to maximum does not work correctly in v6.
Before, it would center the maximized envelope in the arrange view. Now, in v6, last SWS, it does not.
It's fixed already for next SWS.
(It was a regression from v2.10.0)

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Just saw now you reported it on the SWS tracker also.

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