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Grats on the 1080p release, b0se. Looks awesome!
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Just tested W10 1080p and it looked fine. You're using a Smooth_Windows theme variation right? :¬)

Oh, I'm sorry... I had just Smooth
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Bottom line is: we should use TTF fonts on Windows instead of OTF!
I downloaded the Fira Sans TTF from the link you provided and it wouldn't install - got an error. Win 10.

So that's not going to happen, as if it failed for me, it could fail for others. Open Sans, while not as pretty, is working fine now.

Frozen Crystal (Regular) TTF does work much better, so that will be added to 2.2, just seeing if I can fix the transport alignment so it works on all systems. PITA having Mac/W10 and 1080p/HiDPI all together, you fix one and it can b0rk the other (with pixel alignments) :¬)
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Smooth is even better in HiDPI!

Try the other layout scale options for the mixer, A, 50%, 75%, 150% etc etc - you may find one that works.

Options > Layout > Mixer Panel
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I downloaded the Fira Sans TTF from the link you provided and it wouldn't install - got an error. Win 10.

So that's not going to happen, as if it failed for me, it could fail for others. Open Sans, while not as pretty, is working fine now.

Frozen Crystal (Regular) TTF does work much better, so that will be added to 2.2, just seeing if I can fix the transport alignment so it works on all systems. PITA having Mac/W10 and 1080p/HiDPI all together, you fix one and it can b0rk the other (with pixel alignments) :¬)
Have you tried deleting the old Fira Sans OTF before installing the new TTF?
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This solved my problem, thank you!

Have you tried deleting the old Fira Sans OTF before installing the new TTF?
Glad it worked!

Yes, tried that, still errors. All the other fonts I tried installed fine, so I'm not going to trust it. People can always change the fonts themselves if they wish.
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1) In the main Reaper resources folder, navigate into the ColorThemes folder.

2) Copy the four Smooth theme files into the ColorThemes folder.
I think the installation instructions as well as the packaging of the theme might be improved here.

First of all, a user only needs two of those files, depending on his OS (not all four).
Secondly, I would simply split both versions into different folders: The Windows ones separate from the MacOS ones.
This way it would not be necessairy to have a naming scheme like Smooth_6_Windows.ReaperTheme, but simply Smooth_6.ReaperTheme for any OS.

On a different note, every folder in your packaging contains a .DS_Store file (which I guess is some MacOS specific thing?). I would probably remove those files in future releases for clean packaging
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Glad it worked!

Yes, tried that, still errors. All the other fonts I tried installed fine, so I'm not going to trust it. People can always change the fonts themselves if they wish.
Ah pity! Well, the good thing is, people who succeeded installing the TTF version can just use the regular Smooth v6 version.
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I think the installation instructions as well as the packaging of the theme might be improved here.

First of all, a user only needs two of those files, depending on his OS (not all four).
Secondly, I would simply split both versions into different folders: The Windows ones separate from the MacOS ones.
This way it would not be necessairy to have a naming scheme like Smooth_6_Windows.ReaperTheme, but simply Smooth_6.ReaperTheme for any OS.

On a different note, every folder in your packaging contains a .DS_Store file (which I guess is some MacOS specific thing?). I would probably remove those files in future releases for clean packaging
Tbh, I think the packaging is fine. Given the fact, that b0se has a very limited amount of time and also scarified a lot of it, I’d rather spend him his time on the theme than on organizing the zip
But that’s up to him...
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Old 02-14-2020, 07:22 AM   #1770
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First off thanks for all the hard work.

Not sure if your 1080p theme is supposed to support 1080p widescreen/21:9 ratio? Apologies as I didn't see any mention one way or the other in regards to 21:9 ratio. I'm running Windows 10 1080p at 2560 x 1080/21:9 ratio settings.

But there's some odd behavior for the Windows version with widescreen aspect.

First off nearly everything works. The exception being any version of track layout at 150% when using the Windows theme.

Anyway, the text looks likes it's been stretched to huge proportions, BUT when you go to edit the name, the text appears fine. Once you hit enter, it goes back to being stretched, but if you look closely I think you can still see a portion of the stretched font at the top of the name field. So apparently it just moves the stretched text "up" while you edit the text/name?

Also, when I use the Theme Adjuster and try to change track selection size there, it seems to add some odd portions of coloring near the M/S buttons (though only on 150% setting). It also removes the custom coloring stripe when the track isn't selected (on all settings once you've changed sizes with TA once). This visual bug affects both Windows and default/Mac theme for me. This visual bug won't go away until you open and reclose/open new file with Reaper.

I'm fairly new user of Reaper so, I'm not sure but it seems the problem may be it's not loading the Windows theme adjuster properly? The label still says "smooth theme adjuster" even when using the Windows theme. I've double checked and the Smooth_6_Windows_theme_adjuster.lua is in the Cockos folder with Smooth_6_theme_adjuster.lua






Thanks again for all your work. Love the theme.

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I'm fairly new user of Reaper so, I'm not sure but it seems the problem may be it's not loading the Windows theme adjuster properly? The label still says "smooth theme adjuster" even when using the Windows theme. I've double checked and the Smooth_6_Windows_theme_adjuster.lua is in the Cockos folder with Smooth_6_theme_adjuster.lua
Provided you've loaded the windows version of the LUA script and are running that specific Action, you're good.
I imagine it was just overlooked when he duplicated the file to create the Windows version.
You can fix it easily enough by selecting the script in the Actions List, hitting the edit button, and changing the top line.
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I only suggest this because I made this mistake:

Are you sure you're editing the right layout (A, B, C) ? I thought it was broken, and then I realize I had my TCP set to "B" Layout, but I was modifying "A" in the Theme Adjuster.
Hey! Sorry for the late response, I was away. Haven't had the chance to take a look at this but that's probably the reason why. I remember I was using Layout B or C.
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I downloaded the Fira Sans TTF from the link you provided and it wouldn't install - got an error. Win 10.

So that's not going to happen, as if it failed for me, it could fail for others. Open Sans, while not as pretty, is working fine now.

Frozen Crystal (Regular) TTF does work much better, so that will be added to 2.2, just seeing if I can fix the transport alignment so it works on all systems. PITA having Mac/W10 and 1080p/HiDPI all together, you fix one and it can b0rk the other (with pixel alignments) :¬)
Fira Sans TTF can be downloaded via Google Fonts:

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Fi...,800i,900,900i
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Thanks again for this great theme!

If a narrow mix view slider (rather than default knob) were to be added, would this need to be a third party mod once you open the floodgates?

Anyone planning on doing this? I've got it set up now where everything is perfect...except I'd love narrow sliders.
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TCP tracks are at minimum design height already (I don't liek them any smaller personally), If you wish you can dig into the rtconfig and change line 36:

tcp_heights 8 30 61 61

It may mess with the conditional placement of the track ID though, so beware of that.

Routing: the lights are aligned with the direction of the layout: TCP = vertical, MCP = horizontal.



Nice hack! I may add them officially at some point. Maybe even 2.2 (today), since they're easy to do.
A height of 24 looks great and gives me the track count I need

You mentioned that the conditional Track ID placement may be affected. What exactly is the track ID. So far, no anomalies.

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I think the installation instructions as well as the packaging of the theme might be improved here.

First of all, a user only needs two of those files, depending on his OS (not all four).
Secondly, I would simply split both versions into different folders: The Windows ones separate from the MacOS ones.
This way it would not be necessairy to have a naming scheme like Smooth_6_Windows.ReaperTheme, but simply Smooth_6.ReaperTheme for any OS.

On a different note, every folder in your packaging contains a .DS_Store file (which I guess is some MacOS specific thing?). I would probably remove those files in future releases for clean packaging
I saw those when I extracted on the Win10 machine (with hidden files visible). For now, you'll have to live with them, as my workflow is set up to package on OSX.

I like the idea of separating the install files into Windows and Mac (root folders), I'll do that for 2.2. Thanks, hadn't thought of that.

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Provided you've loaded the windows version of the LUA script and are running that specific Action, you're good.
I imagine it was just overlooked when he duplicated the file to create the Windows version.
You can fix it easily enough by selecting the script in the Actions List, hitting the edit button, and changing the top line.
Oh yes, I need to rename the LUA files. Thanks!

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Fira Sans TTF can be downloaded via Google Fonts:

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Fi...,800i,900,900i
I'll try those today, thanks.

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Thanks again for this great theme!

If a narrow mix view slider (rather than default knob) were to be added, would this need to be a third party mod once you open the floodgates?

Anyone planning on doing this? I've got it set up now where everything is perfect...except I'd love narrow sliders.
If anyone is willing to mod the narrow slider to have a fader, I will (gladly!) add it to he official release. I'm not able to do it myself.

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A height of 24 looks great and gives me the track count I need

You mentioned that the conditional Track ID placement may be affected. What exactly is the track ID. So far, no anomalies.

Great work!
Thanks! The track ID is the track number, far left of the TCP. It gets nudges up and down depending on the height of the TCP track. Looks to be fine still, since you made the track smaller, and not larger.

All good! :¬)
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Tbh, I think the packaging is fine. Given the fact, that b0se has a very limited amount of time and also scarified a lot of it, I’d rather spend him his time on the theme than on organizing the zip
But that’s up to him...
I think it's important to share feedback and ideas. It's up to b0se what to implement, but everybody needs objective input from the outside to make the right decisions.
Also how is restructuring the zip eating up any resources? The only resources that are wasted are when people in the forum ask why their Smooth_6.ReaperTheme doesn't work only to find out they need to use Smooth_6_Windows.ReaperTheme.
This takes the real time and energy.

I'm just giving my input lol :P

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I saw those when I extracted on the Win10 machine (with hidden files visible). For now, you'll have to live with them, as my workflow is set up to package on OSX.

I like the idea of separating the install files into Windows and Mac (root folders), I'll do that for 2.2. Thanks, hadn't thought of that.
Sounds awesome
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The Fira Sans OTF from Google Fonts worked on the Win10 1080p system, about to test Win10 HiDPI.

Strange that the other OTF version had issues. Perhaps this is a newer version.

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I think it's important to share feedback and ideas. It's up to b0se what to implement, but everybody needs objective input from the outside to make the right decisions.
Also how is restructuring the zip eating up any resources? The only resources that are wasted are when people in the forum ask why their Smooth_6.ReaperTheme doesn't work only to find out they need to use Smooth_6_Windows.ReaperTheme.
This takes the real time and energy.

I'm just giving my input lol :P
Stevie meant the invisible files that OSX produces. I'm not going to start messing about with that, as very few users will ever see those.

I will however, split the theme into OSX/Win releases as to simply installation.

EDIT: Seen your own EDIT
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Just letting you know that the transport selection looks...well strange in 150% transport zoom. See attached pic.
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Just letting you know that the transport selection looks...well strange in 150% transport zoom. See attached pic.
Ah, interesting thanks.

Mac or Windows?

1080p or HiDPI?
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Ah, interesting thanks.

Mac or Windows?

1080p or HiDPI?
Sorry, windows and 1080p!

Also the transport timecode/status is not centered here (in height).
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Sorry, windows and 1080p!

Also the transport timecode/status is not centered here (in height).
Thanks.

Transport alignment will be fixed in the Windows version.
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Hey b0se, about zip files for pc done on a mac, I've found the resource forks have to be omitted, and safest only to use ISO characters in items names. If still relevant and if you haven’t tried, I suggest Keka file archiver and check the ‘Exclude Mac resource forks’ under zip. At least this solved my case with another Win user.

- in regard to font appearance cross platform it's really confusing. I don't know what to say other than millions of users have the Google fonts installed. I wonder if there could be additional information in RT. I've also seen examples from the Reaper dev team that don't have correct Calibri font installed for v6. It would be really helpful to have a clear guide on how fonts should be specified to align with the program code in all (three) formats.
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Hey b0se, about zip files for pc done on a mac, I've found the resource forks have to be omitted, and safest only to use ISO characters in items names. If still relevant and if you haven’t tried, I suggest Keka file archiver and check the ‘Exclude Mac resource forks’ under zip. At least this solved my case with another Win user.

- in regard to font appearance cross platform it's really confusing. I don't know what to say other than millions of users have the Google fonts installed. I wonder if there could be additional information in RT. I've also seen examples from the Reaper dev team that don't have correct Calibri font installed for v6. It would be really helpful to have a clear guide on how fonts should be specified to align with the program code in all (three) formats.
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The fonts are a bit of a pain, a lot of effort for something so simple :¬)

Thanks for the heads up with Keka, I'll use that for 2.2.

Hope all is well!
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Reinstalled the Smooth 6 Windows theme with all the fonts and stuff.

I have one track that has a large metre on the left and the others are normal,metres on the right and small.

I can't seem to change that one track,I thought it did that because it was selected but the others don't change when I select them.

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P.S. I fixed.

I used it by adjusting the theme adjuster that has mysteriously docked itself in between the tracks and mixer sections.

How do I undock the theme adjuster?

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How do I undock the theme adjuster?
No idea! Glad you fixed the meter thing.
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Smooth 6 V2.3 is ready...

- Windows: Fira Sans fonts
- Windows: Transport text aligned vertically
- Windows: Text bug fixed
- Windows: Zip cleaned up

The ZIP now contains Windows and Mac versions, so which ever you install you'll only see Smooth V6 and Smooth V6 Dark options in the Themes.

Before I release, I'd like to beta test Windows 1080p and Windows HiDPI.

Any able to help?
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I can test either/both real quick. Got my desktop at 1080p and laptop at 4k. Windows both.
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Smooth 6 V2.3 is ready...

- Windows: Fira Sans fonts
- Windows: Transport text aligned vertically
- Windows: Text bug fixed
- Windows: Zip cleaned up

The ZIP now contains Windows and Mac versions, so which ever you install you'll only see Smooth V6 and Smooth V6 Dark options in the Themes.

Before I release, I'd like to beta test Windows 1080p and Windows HiDPI.

Any able to help?
I'm game. W10 1080p here
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I can test either/both real quick. Got my desktop at 1080p and laptop at 4k. Windows both.
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Just unpacked everything and I'm getting some W95 vibes at the mo.

It's like the images didn't load for Smooth_6

I notice that you've names it Smooth_6.reaperThemeZip

Would that have any effect?
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Just unpacked everything and I'm getting some W95 vibes at the mo.

It's like the images didn't load for Smooth_6

I notice that you've names it Smooth_6.reaperThemeZip

Would that have any effect?
If you rename that to .zip and extract, is it in one folder, or are the theme file/folder two folders deep?

Can't check as just left the studio!
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If you rename that to .zip and extract, is it in one folder, or are the theme file/folder two folders deep?

Can't check as just left the studio!
Ends up two folders deep with the theme file and then a folder with the data/images
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Ends up two folders deep with the theme file and then a folder with the data/images
Yeah I compressed them incorrectly, drag the main folder (with all the images in it) and the dark reaperTheme file into the ColorThemes folder and it'll all work
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Old 02-15-2020, 10:55 AM   #1795
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All 4 included theme files work perfectly OK on W7..

And since with the new fonts the Transport looks right,
I actually I prefeer the mac version with its bolder type..

https://i.imgur.com/k8DMwY8.jpg


Btw kudos on the Meters too!
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Spent a long time updating my track templates to have tcp b alt. If I update the theme, will the saved track templates retain their layouts?
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Spent a long time updating my track templates to have tcp b alt. If I update the theme, will the saved track templates retain their layouts?
Yup! You're safe to upgrade.
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Old 02-15-2020, 09:37 PM   #1798
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A height of 24 looks great and gives me the track count I need

You mentioned that the conditional Track ID placement may be affected. What exactly is the track ID. So far, no anomalies.

Great work!

If it functioned properly and gave access to all the important stuff, these small tracks are perfect imo. I realllly preferred the track sizes in Reaper 5 Default, and even then wish there were an even more shrunken version ala Logic, for high track counts and fast mixing.
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For very high track counts, or very Small track sizes,
nothing beats the good old Ameliance:

https://i.imgur.com/EHmoCFb.jpg

https://stash.reaper.fm/theme/2123/A...perThemeZip%29

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If it functioned properly and gave access to all the important stuff, these small tracks are perfect imo. I realllly preferred the track sizes in Reaper 5 Default, and even then wish there were an even more shrunken version ala Logic, for high track counts and fast mixing.
The collapsed (small) TCP sizes are staying as they are.

Feel free to open the rtconfig and change it (as above), it's very easy to do.
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