[6.05] ARA melodyne bug, occasionally edit lost after item splits

cuttlefish · 03-05-2020, 11:45 PM

Heres what I experienced:
Firstly did the ARA melodyne edit on vocal track, then wanted to split the item and move a little bit. The notes that already edited could occasionally change back to original (lost edit).

GIF tells everything.

Tried ver6.04, works fine. Only 6.05 has this issue.
6.05 not always has this bug, it happens occasionally but annoying.

Sorry don't know how to make 64k GIF, uploaded zipped GIF.
first time report bug. Anyone helps me? Thanks!

amagalma · 03-06-2020, 12:58 AM

Is this with Melodyne as Track or Item FX? Which action do you use to split?

cuttlefish · 03-06-2020, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by amagalma

Is this with Melodyne as Track or Item FX? Which action do you use to split?

It is used with Track FX. I use keyboard "S" for split.

Did you mean to use Item FX for better performace? But if split items when editing, it'll become more and more "melodyne instances".

schwa · 03-06-2020, 04:39 AM

Hmm, I can't seem to reproduce this. Is there any chance you post a step by step process to consistently trigger the problem?

cuttlefish · 03-06-2020, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by schwa

Hmm, I can't seem to reproduce this. Is there any chance you post a step by step process to consistently trigger the problem?

Thanks for the reply, schwa.

I did more tests on both Track FX & Item FX with ARA Melodyne. The step is:
1, It always needed to split the item one time first.
2, Then edit the notes in ARA Melodyne.
3, Then split things after the first split point.
4, Bug happened, edits changed back.

It only happens in 6.05. I tried 6.04, it didn't changed back the edits after the split.
Also it seems that the bug with Item FX and Track FX behaves a little different (watch the notes change when I did undo).

If I did anything wrong, just tell me. Thank you!

cuttlefish · 03-06-2020, 06:24 AM

Seems it's the problem with the split.
I have encountered the edit lost multiple times when using ARA Melodyne. In the past versions of Reaper, sometimes I edit notes, split item, move item, and undo, then the edit lost. That made me wonder if the bug came with undo (which I did not report, and cannot find the solution). However it only happened occasionally, but still made me afraid to use undo when doing project.

This time it seems to be the split issue, in 6.05 I just split the item, the edit lost happened.

schwa · 03-06-2020, 06:29 AM

Confirmed, thank you. The next +dev build should have a fix for this, though it's proving to be a complicated problem!

cuttlefish · 03-06-2020, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schwa

Confirmed, thank you. The next +dev build should have a fix for this, though it's proving to be a complicated problem!

Yes It's gonna be tough. Thank you so much for the help!

amagalma · 03-06-2020, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schwa

Confirmed, thank you. The next +dev build should have a fix for this, though it's proving to be a complicated problem!

Confirmed here too.. Thanks! Please, do not forget the undo bug (lost edits when undoing)

cuttlefish · 03-06-2020, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schwa

Confirmed, thank you. The next +dev build should have a fix for this, though it's proving to be a complicated problem!

Tested 605+dev0306.
Most of the issues are solved!
Still found 1 small issue.

GIF tells everything.Here's what I found:
select one phrase for testing.
1) Split the item, then undo, no problem.
2) Split the item, then move it, then undo the move, those edits AFTER the split point lost. However if continues to undo the split, the edits changed back.
3) Split the item, then move the part BEFORE the split point, then undo the move, those edits AFTER the split point will also lost.
However the notes BEFORE the split point seems not being affected anyway.

Thanks so much for the super fast update, guys!

woylie · 03-23-2020, 06:03 AM

Hello. I may have had a similar problem.

I have a project with a compiled vocal track containing split items. Each item has Melodyne as an Item Fx. On upgrading from Reaper 6.03 to 6.05 I discovered the Melodyne edits were lost. I downgraded to 6.03, but alas the edits were still gone. Fortunately I have a slightly older backup of the project with the edits intact, so I might run with this and stay on 6.03 for now.

It is possible that something else happened to lose the edits before I did the upgrade, without me noticing, but I thought I'd report it anyway.

Cheers,
Dave

I'm running Mac OS 10.14.6