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Old 05-20-2020, 09:51 AM   #1
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v6.10+dev0520 - May 20 2020
  • + FX browser: OK button is now the Add button
  • + FX browser: add context menu item to add FX to selected active takes
  • + FX browser: options to hide VST2 if VST3 present, AU if VST present
  • + FX browser: reposition search filter to top of window
  • + ReaScript: update Track/TakeFX_AddByName() to allow inserting FXADD:, allow inserting FX at position in chain
  • # FX browser: correct behavior when replacing FX with multiple FX
  • # Theme color controls: theme adjuster falls back to color controls if no adjuster available
  • # theme: fix themeparam/themecolor/ui inconsistencies when saving themes
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Old 05-20-2020, 10:05 AM   #2
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+ FX browser: reposition search filter to top of window


Thats what I mentioned. Thank you. I think it is more logic now. The path between first found entry/plugin and search box is yet shorter, very good.
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+ ReaScript: update Track/TakeFX_AddByName() to allow inserting FXADD:, allow inserting FX at position in chain

I can't believe my luck! That's saved a bunch more work in my stupidly large multiscreen Reaper Control system programming (still nowhere near finished though!) Thanks.
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[list][*]+ FX browser: OK button is now the Add button

Looks like the "Add" button is also hidden when docked now. That's nice! Very clean. It's unnecessary when docked IMO.
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Please, more margin around entries in FX browser...



This is cutting it too close to the top/left borders.

Also, why is the bottom so empty? There's room enough to fit at least one more plugin in the last row but it's empty.


Also, when removing categories or developers, can it be done so that after refresh the focus is brought back to where you scrolled down vertically in the left side pane of the FX browser? Currently it always goes back to the top, which is very annoying...
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Please, more margin around entries in FX browser...

...Also, why is the bottom so empty? There's room enough to fit at least one more plugin in the last row but it's empty.
Yes to both please. Thanks!
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v6.10+dev0520 - May 20 2020[*]+ FX browser: options to hide VST2 if VST3 present, AU if VST present
I still think there are a lot of us who favor VST2 and would appreciate the opposite. A 3 state option of: 1) off, 2) favor VST3 if VST2 also present, and 3) favor VST2 if VST3 also present would be great for me, personally. A few others may have the same hang up.

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I still think there are a lot of us who favor VST2 and would appreciate the opposite. A 3 state option of: 1) off, 2) favor VST3 if VST2 also present, and 3) favor VST2 if VST3 also present would be great for me, personally. A few others may have the same hang up.

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I still think there are a lot of us who favor VST2 and would appreciate the opposite. A 3 state option of: 1) off, 2) favor VST3 if VST2 also present, and 3) favor VST2 if VST3 also present would be great for me, personally. A few others may have the same hang up.

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I still think there are a lot of us who favor VST2 and would appreciate the opposite. A 3 state option of: 1) off, 2) favor VST3 if VST2 also present, and 3) favor VST2 if VST3 also present would be great for me, personally. A few others may have the same hang up.

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Many users stick to VST2 for stability reasons as a lot of VST3 plugins have issues the VST2 versions don't.
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+ ReaScript: update Track/TakeFX_AddByName() [...] allow inserting FX at position in chain
Thank you for this. Would be super handy to also get something like GetFxIdFromPoint() that would work with FX chains and MCP.

Also, getting item+take with GetItemFromPoint() when screen coordinates refer to a floating FX/FXchain (similarly to how GetTrackFromPoint() operates) would be really helpful.

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broken record but please consider doing the same thing to the fx chain window so that the "VST:" bit is at the end and not the start.

It would massively help with trying to fit a lot on the screen and give back a few inches of crucial real estate to the fx window to actually show more of the FX GUI instead.
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+ FX browser: add context menu item to add FX to selected active takes

Can you pls explain what this is?
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+ FX browser: add context menu item to add FX to selected active takes

Can you pls explain what this is?
You can apply Take FX in Reaper (sorry if you know about them, but if not, here's a video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x5tJlm4STU

Now, you can select multiple items/takes, open the FX Browser, select an FX, and enter the right-click/context menu and select an option to apply that particular effect to the selected items/takes.
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I still think there are a lot of us who favor VST2 and would appreciate the opposite. A 3 state option of: 1) off, 2) favor VST3 if VST2 also present, and 3) favor VST2 if VST3 also present would be great for me, personally. A few others may have the same hang up.

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You can apply Take FX in Reaper (sorry if you know about them, but if not, here's a video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x5tJlm4STU

Now, you can select multiple items/takes, open the FX Browser, select an FX, and enter the right-click/context menu and select an option to apply that particular effect to the selected items/takes.
Thank you. I know about take FX ! This context is something I have been waiting for a long time . Is there an action for this ? Something like “Add selected FX or FX chain as take FX”. That way we can map a keyboard short cut to it ����
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I still think there are a lot of us who favor VST2 and would appreciate the opposite. A 3 state option of: 1) off, 2) favor VST3 if VST2 also present, and 3) favor VST2 if VST3 also present would be great for me, personally. A few others may have the same hang up.

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For those various situations where you don't want to see a specific type of a plug-in, you can use a global FX filter or do the rename with # and hide those, etc... we don't really need to do every combination
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For those various situations where you don't want to see a specific type of a plug-in, you can use a global FX filter or do the rename with # and hide those, etc... we don't really need to do every combination
Fair enough. But it's a pretty "across the board" preference. Not like a one-off type deal.
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hallelujah! nice!
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For those various situations where you don't want to see a specific type of a plug-in, you can use a global FX filter or do the rename with # and hide those, etc... we don't really need to do every combination
perhaps it could be an option that the "#" overrides the global setting? so that if there is a "#" in front of a certain plugin, reaper shows the remaining file formats of this plugin, no matter what the global setting is and just hides those with an "#"
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For those various situations where you don't want to see a specific type of a plug-in, you can use a global FX filter or do the rename with # and hide those, etc... we don't really need to do every combination
Not asking for every combination. Just two. VST2 and VST3. VST is also the only plugin format like this.

We don't want to filter it all the time and putting a number in front of every VST3 plugin? That's pretty onerous.

I understand you can't cover every option here but we're just asking for two.
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Agreeing with Klangfarben und Funkybot.
VST3 is hated by many because it's rather a step backwards than an improvement. The situation would be different, if VST3 had outraced VST2, but that's not the case. So an option to favour VST2 would be most welcome.
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Have to admit/agree that I tend to favour vst2 still and only use vst3 for plugins that don't have vst2s
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Thanks for all the updates.
Man, this is going to be a good release.
While you guys are on a roll with the FX stuff, would you consider adding to the right click menu to remove effects on the FX button on the Track Control Panels,and MCP?
Vegas had this option.
It was easy access, and no need to open the FX window.
Just a thought.
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Hello,

Is it possible to make an option "search filter to top or down of window", please ?

Actually, the new emplacement no feets very well with my screen...
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I'd love to be able to drag an fx right into an empty TCP and have a track made with it
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I'd love to be able to drag an fx right into an empty TCP and have a track made with it
Have you tried it in the last two or three days? It was just added.
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It starts to really look good . A bit of love on the right click menu of the FX chain window, integrating its functions into the action list etc might be of interest in the future also.

Thank you for the constant work. Reaper is the best !
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Indeed.

Another fx chain window "nice to have" thing would be if the right click menu contained the same abridged plugin folder lists as right clicking on an fx button in the tcp.

That would speed things up for users of the fx chain window for sure.
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Can this be optional?

Whether this is a positive or negative change is dependant on the position of the FX browser so it's really a matter of personal preference.

My FX browser is always docked to the top right which means rather than being conveniently near the middle of the screen the search filter is half a screen further away.
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VST3 is hated by many because it's rather a step backwards than an improvement.
Kinda really depends. There are some plugins that work better as VST3 than VST2 (Melodyne, Halion 6, Surge...) There are a number of steps forward in there, too (more than one MIDI port per plugin, better output handling...)

Either way if any new developer ever shows up it's gonna be VST3. Also note that VST3 is truly open source and cross-platform, and VST2 isn't. This makes it practically the only realistically viable option if one ever considers Linux...

Not all is so grim.


I agree with Justin that they don't need to cover every combination.
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Default missing attack at splitted automation items

for some reason, when spliting the automation items, it loses the attack which is completely unexpected behaviour.

please check this vid to hear the difference between the splitted and unsplitted automation item:

you can download the project to check: https://srv-file18.gofile.io/downloa...g%20attack.rar
i created 2 channels, one with automation items splitted and the others unsplitted.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4pj...ature=youtu.be

btw- maybe this has something to do with the problem that I never hear the attack of the first note/kick/snare if the cursor was right on it before hitting the play button(?) "tiny fade in" is not ticked

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Reflected, does this only happen in v6.10+dev0520?
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Reflected, does this only happen in v6.10+dev0520?
yes currenly using v6.10+dev0520
But this happend before also
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Please, more margin around entries in FX browser...



This is cutting it too close to the top/left borders.

Also, why is the bottom so empty? There's room enough to fit at least one more plugin in the last row but it's empty.


Also, when removing categories or developers, can it be done so that after refresh the focus is brought back to where you scrolled down vertically in the left side pane of the FX browser? Currently it always goes back to the top, which is very annoying...
Evil...how do you manage to not have these "VSTi:..."/"Vst3i:..." in front of the instrument name and that VSTi and VST3i is listed side by side???

I hate the sorting "my Reaper" does that first come all VST than VST3 than VST3i and at least VSTi always with this silly typ in front

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I still think there are a lot of us who favor VST2 and would appreciate the opposite. A 3 state option of: 1) off, 2) favor VST3 if VST2 also present, and 3) favor VST2 if VST3 also present would be great for me, personally. A few others may have the same hang up.

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Evil...how do you manage to not have these "VSTi:..."/"Vst3i:..." in front of the instrument name and that VSTi and VST3i is listed side by side???

I hate the sorting "my Reaper" does that first come all VST than VST3 than VST3i and at least VSTi always with this silly typ in front
It's an option added to FX browser in the recent prereleases. Right-click everywhere, remember?
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It's an option added to FX browser in the recent prereleases. Right-click everywhere, remember?
Ha... I still didn´t install the latest ones... :-)
Thanx for reminding me!!
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for some reason, when spliting the automation items, it loses the attack which is completely unexpected behaviour.

please check this vid to hear the difference between the splitted and unsplitted automation item:

you can download the project to check: https://srv-file18.gofile.io/downloa...g%20attack.rar
i created 2 channels, one with automation items splitted and the others unsplitted.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4pj...ature=youtu.be

btw- maybe this has something to do with the problem that I never hear the attack of the first note/kick/snare if the cursor was right on it before hitting the play button(?) "tiny fade in" is not ticked
Hi Reflected,
I am pretty sure that it is not because of splitting "automation item" but splitting the actual audio item, so that every slice has now fade-in applied. Check their properties (F2) or zoom in closelly to see the tiny fade-in.
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@devs: As much as I like to not have these silly VST, VST3 etc. in front I am not sure if at least a differentiation between FX and instruments would be helpful... i.e. first all FX alphabetically then the instruments or other way round...
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