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08-14-2020, 08:11 AM
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#9961
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Location: Berlin
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Can CSI pass values to actions such as
Adjust track send 1 volume (MIDI CC/OSC only) ?
That would let me change send volume levels on all selected tracks, which is what I'm doing with my two other MFT units.
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08-14-2020, 08:28 AM
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#9962
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Location: London, England.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airon
Can CSI pass values to actions such as
Adjust track send 1 volume (MIDI CC/OSC only) ?
That would let me change send volume levels on all selected tracks, which is what I'm doing with my two other MFT units.
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'fraid not. That would need a controller enabled in the MIDI Devices prefs. Not sure about OSC though.
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08-14-2020, 03:09 PM
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#9963
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X Touch vs Qcon G2
Opinions please about the relative strengths and weaknesses of these two controllers for use with CSI?
Thanks
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08-14-2020, 08:40 PM
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#9964
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkybot
If I'm reading you correctly, it sounds like you want to mimic a console-like workflow in your hypothetical. Where you'd be combining a large number of extenders to act as a 64-channel console. In that case you'd just the standard "TrackNavigator" for an 8-channel surface like shown here...
Code:
Zone Home
IncludedZones
"Channel|1-8"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "Channel|"
TrackNavigator
DisplayUpper| TrackNameDisplay
DisplayLower| TrackPanDisplay
TrackTouch+DisplayLower| TrackVolumeDisplay
RotaryPush| GoZone PanWidth|
Rotary| TrackPan "0"
RecordArm| TrackRecordArm
Solo| TrackSolo
Mute| TrackMute
Select| TrackUniqueSelect
Shift+Select| TrackRangeSelect
Control+Select| TrackSelect
Shift+Control+Select| TogglePin
Option+Select| TrackFolderDive
Fader| TrackVolume
FaderTouch| TrackTouch
ZoneEnd
You'd set CSI to follow the MCP view.
Then, you'd just add your 8 X-Touch Extenders to the same "Page" in CSI in the order you need the channels to appear. So X-Touch Extender 1 would be first and get assigned channels 1-8, X-Touch Extender 2 would be second and automatically get assigned channels 9-16, X-Touch Extender 3 would automatically get assigned channels 17-24, etc.
Nothing fancy. CSI converts channels 1-8 in the .zon file to channels 1-8 of the first 8-channel surface in your list, then will just keep adding for every other 8-channel surface. You'd use the same .zon file for each extender, nothing to convert or modify for each device.
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08-16-2020, 06:38 AM
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#9965
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Human being with feelings
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Location: Berlin
Posts: 11,817
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andyp24
Opinions please about the relative strengths and weaknesses of these two controllers for use with CSI?
Thanks
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The things to compare are - Fader noise
- Button feel
- Spare parts availabilty
- Scribble strip quality I.e usefullness
G2 seems a winner with its more readable strips. Get the units under your fingers.
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08-16-2020, 10:33 AM
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#9966
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Thanks Airon, you're right, but...
Where I live, it's not easy to see either of them "live" (no big music tech stores near me) without buying them and returning one...
Was hoping to get opinions from anyone who owns one, or has used both.
Andy
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08-16-2020, 05:12 PM
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#9967
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Just tried the new test builds for the first time, and I'm still seeing most of the same Eucon bugs as before:
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinGShore
- If I move a control on a track that's in read automation mode the fader/knob values don't snap back like they should when I let go. It doesn't actually write any automation in Reaper (which is correct, it shouldn't) but since the fader doesn't snap back this mean that if I switch the track into another mode and then try to write some automation, it will start writing at the wrong value
- In touch mode, if I start writing volume, then release to stop writing, then touch the fader/knob again but don't actually move it, Reaper will start writing from the value I last released on instead of the current value of the track volume. It corrects itself as soon as I actually move the fader/knob. This is most obvious if the volume control is flipped up to the knobs, since the Eucon faders are kinda sensitive, and often just touching the fader will actually cause a slght nudge in the value
- If I write send volume automation in touch mode, the send volume stays latched after I release it.
- Adjusting the send volume from the controller changes both the send automation fader and the static trim value of the send at the same time
- Eucon meters only show a single channel regardless of how many channels the track has in Reaper. I'm also not sure what this single channel of metering represents? If I have any panning on a track the meters will show less signal depending on how far left or right it's panned. Panning hard left or right will make the meter show no signal at all
- The red clip light on the meters disappears after a moment. It would be nice if it persisted til it was manually cleared within reaper
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In addition to these, I'm also seeing new two new bugs: - I can't change automation modes from the surface anymore
- writing pan automation when I'm in touch mode doesn't work, the pan envelope constantly fights against me and I end up with an envelope that looks like this:
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08-16-2020, 05:29 PM
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#9968
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Human being with feelings
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Location: New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by svijayrathinam
In eucon mode .. how do i lock certain faders and store it in a layout ? Pls help
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
Once again, part of the EuCon/CSI design internally, probably won't be implementing that feature, at least not in the near future.
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Geoff's actually mistaken about this You can lock tracks to faders and store layouts with the current implementation, it's done through the Eucontrol settings not through, not through Reaper. If you go to the asssign tab in the Eucontrol software you can lock tracks to faders and then use layouts tabs to store different layouts:
You can also do this from the tracks page in the Eucon app for android/ios if you have it. Heads up though, there's a bug that makes it so that the layouts don't always load properly with Reaper projects if you close reaper and reopen the project later.
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08-17-2020, 03:26 AM
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#9969
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinGShore
Just tried the new test builds for the first time, and I'm still seeing most of the same Eucon bugs as before:
In addition to these, I'm also seeing new two new bugs: - I can't change automation modes from the surface anymore
- writing pan automation when I'm in touch mode doesn't work, the pan envelope constantly fights against me and I end up with an envelope that looks like this:
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Yes, correct on all points, thanks for having a look.
The internals have been completely rewritten-- now that we have a reasonable idea of what CSI is, we can actually code it
This was just a "shakedown cruise" without automation, sends, a bunch of other stuff.
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08-17-2020, 03:28 AM
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#9970
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinGShore
Geoff's actually mistaken about this You can lock tracks to faders and store layouts with the current implementation, it's done through the Eucontrol settings not through, not through Reaper. If you go to the asssign tab in the Eucontrol software you can lock tracks to faders and then use layouts tabs to store different layouts:
You can also do this from the tracks page in the Eucon app for android/ios if you have it. Heads up though, there's a bug that makes it so that the layouts don't always load properly with Reaper projects if you close reaper and reopen the project later.
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True, but even if you can load properly, if you have messed about with the track layout in Reaper, things may break, so I would say more like it half works
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08-17-2020, 04:02 AM
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#9971
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinGShore
Just tried the new test builds for the first time, and I'm still seeing most of the same Eucon bugs as before:
In addition to these, I'm also seeing new two new bugs: - I can't change automation modes from the surface anymore
- writing pan automation when I'm in touch mode doesn't work, the pan envelope constantly fights against me and I end up with an envelope that looks like this:
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I have the same issue in touch mode. The only difference is i Have that weird automation fighting thing happening for me with volume automation and not pan automation.
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08-17-2020, 06:09 AM
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#9972
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Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Sydney
Posts: 471
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Hey Geoff,
What’s your thoughts on a potential release of the ne EuCon layer?
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08-17-2020, 05:53 PM
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#9973
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I know im a little late to the party with this... but i just started experimenting deeper with the encoder acceleration stuff and i gotta say that the tick count thing together with the steps is a BEAUTIFUL thing. like really nice !!!!
thats a genious at work right there.. thanks Geoff !!!
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08-18-2020, 01:11 AM
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#9974
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Midi Fighter Twister
Hey guys!
I'm trying to setup CSI for one mft and have some problems (volume, selection, solo, mute, last touched fx param works great!)
1.I can't find a way to use modifiers on mft, is it working on mft?
I press modifier button once for alternative behavior and can't go back to original anymore.
2.Same with the zones. Do I understand correctly that you can press a button and specific the knobs/buttons will change their functions? Sometimes I can go to another zone but I cannot go back. (I've tried it with pan on a V row, didn't work out)
3.I can't change LED meter types for mft (for pan and width). I can only use mf_utility for it?
4. When I press the knob and turn in (ShiftRotate) values come up inverted and weird (not a big deal if i can use modifiers to get alternative functions)
Unfinished zon file:
Code:
Zone Home
OnTrackSelection
OnFXFocus MapFocusedFXToWidgets
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"Channel|1-4"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "Buttons|"
ButtonB2 Shift
ZoneEnd
Zone "Channel|"
TrackNavigator
RotaryV| TrackVolume [ (0.0001,0.0015,0.002,0.0025,0.005,0.0075,0.0125,0.025,0.05,0.066,0.075) ]
RotaryM| TrackPan 0 [ (0.0001,0.0015,0.002,0.0025,0.005,0.0075,0.0125,0.025,0.05,0.066,0.075) ]
RotaryB4 FocusedFXParam [ (0.0001,0.0015,0.002,0.0025,0.005,0.0075,0.0125,0.025,0.05,0.066,0.075) ]
RotaryA| TrackOutputMeter
ButtonB3 Reaper _RS2182bf32a6716b0bc7db079f15ef087f231f69e9
ButtonB4 Reaper _RS32a7eb909a13378ddec46b9442cc3ccb72d51b53
ButtonV| TrackSelect { 0 255 255 0 255 10 }
ButtonM| TrackMute { 0 255 255 0 255 240 }
ButtonA| TrackSolo { 0 255 255 242 255 0 }
ZoneEnd
my mft rows:
it will be great to use some modifier buttons for switching V (or other) row to control something else (pan or sends)
Thanks!
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08-18-2020, 04:02 AM
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#9975
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tapemelancholy
Hey guys!
1.I can't find a way to use modifiers on mft, is it working on mft?
I press modifier button once for alternative behavior and can't go back to original anymore.
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I got modifiers working by defining the widget in the mst
Widget Shift
Press 90 46 7f 90 46 00
WidgetEnd
Replace the hex code with the same numbers as for your B2 button.
Then the zone file should translate the B2 button to shift.
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08-18-2020, 05:48 AM
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#9976
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Join Date: Apr 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tapemelancholy
Hey guys!
I'm trying to setup CSI for one mft and have some problems (volume, selection, solo, mute, last touched fx param works great!)
1.I can't find a way to use modifiers on mft, is it working on mft?
I press modifier button once for alternative behavior and can't go back to original anymore.
2.Same with the zones. Do I understand correctly that you can press a button and specific the knobs/buttons will change their functions? Sometimes I can go to another zone but I cannot go back. (I've tried it with pan on a V row, didn't work out)
3.I can't change LED meter types for mft (for pan and width). I can only use mf_utility for it?
4. When I press the knob and turn in (ShiftRotate) values come up inverted and weird (not a big deal if i can use modifiers to get alternative functions)
Unfinished zon file:
Code:
Zone Home
OnTrackSelection
OnFXFocus MapFocusedFXToWidgets
IncludedZones
"Buttons|"
"Channel|1-4"
IncludedZonesEnd
ZoneEnd
Zone "Buttons|"
ButtonB2 Shift
ZoneEnd
Zone "Channel|"
TrackNavigator
RotaryV| TrackVolume [ (0.0001,0.0015,0.002,0.0025,0.005,0.0075,0.0125,0.025,0.05,0.066,0.075) ]
RotaryM| TrackPan 0 [ (0.0001,0.0015,0.002,0.0025,0.005,0.0075,0.0125,0.025,0.05,0.066,0.075) ]
RotaryB4 FocusedFXParam [ (0.0001,0.0015,0.002,0.0025,0.005,0.0075,0.0125,0.025,0.05,0.066,0.075) ]
RotaryA| TrackOutputMeter
ButtonB3 Reaper _RS2182bf32a6716b0bc7db079f15ef087f231f69e9
ButtonB4 Reaper _RS32a7eb909a13378ddec46b9442cc3ccb72d51b53
ButtonV| TrackSelect { 0 255 255 0 255 10 }
ButtonM| TrackMute { 0 255 255 0 255 240 }
ButtonA| TrackSolo { 0 255 255 242 255 0 }
ZoneEnd
my mft rows:
it will be great to use some modifier buttons for switching V (or other) row to control something else (pan or sends)
Thanks!
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Hey check out post # 9470 of this thread if u need further help. There are files posted for the MFT there. Compliments of funkybot so they are definitely good files
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08-18-2020, 08:39 AM
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#9977
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
Posts: 11,184
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdc
Hey Geoff,
What’s your thoughts on a potential release of the ne EuCon layer?
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Working through some issues right now, so can't say, don't want to promise something and not deliver, and sorting these things out can take a lot of effort sometimes, as I'm sure you know
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08-18-2020, 08:41 AM
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#9978
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cragster
I know im a little late to the party with this... but i just started experimenting deeper with the encoder acceleration stuff and i gotta say that the tick count thing together with the steps is a BEAUTIFUL thing. like really nice !!!!
thats a genious at work right there.. thanks Geoff !!!
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Yeah, acceleration is a lot of fun
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08-18-2020, 09:24 AM
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#9979
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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You're certainly welcome to my MFTwister files if you want to try them but I have my device setup very differently than what you're doing and not using modifiers on the MFTwister. To get those to work you'd need to add release messages in the .mst at the minimum. That said, my files are here if you want to check them out. The naming convention for widgets uses a "banks of 8" concept where the top two rows are A1-A8, next two are B1-B8, then Page2 begins with C1-C8, etc. This widget naming methodology works really well with CSI and you may want to consider something like this (or not )...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lfikysmeco...0v1-5.zip?dl=0
Quote:
Originally Posted by tapemelancholy
Hey guys!
I'm trying to setup CSI for one mft and have some problems (volume, selection, solo, mute, last touched fx param works great!)
1.I can't find a way to use modifiers on mft, is it working on mft?
I press modifier button once for alternative behavior and can't go back to original anymore.
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See Inertia's post. You probably need to define the release message in the MFT.mst file. There was some back and forth about how to handle this, but release messages are definitely required if you intend on using a button as a modifier.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tapemelancholy
2.Same with the zones. Do I understand correctly that you can press a button and specific the knobs/buttons will change their functions? Sometimes I can go to another zone but I cannot go back. (I've tried it with pan on a V row, didn't work out)
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Check out the [I believe] mcu.zon to see how it flips between Pan and PanWidth zones. You'll see that the main channel zone has Rotary assigned to Pan and a GoZone PanWidth assigned to RotaryPush. This is the initialized state. Then there is a PanWidth zone where RotaryPush takes you to GoZone Pan, then there is a Pan zone where GoZone takes you to PanWidth (this is how you alternate between the two).
Quote:
Originally Posted by tapemelancholy
3.I can't change LED meter types for mft (for pan and width). I can only use mf_utility for it?
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Yes, right now this is only possible via the Utility.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tapemelancholy
4. When I press the knob and turn in (ShiftRotate) values come up inverted and weird (not a big deal if i can use modifiers to get alternative functions)
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I've noticed something weird with ShiftRotary's on the MFTwister. Not sure if it's a bug in the firmware or what. Haven't had time to really dig in yet, but something I've been meaning to look at.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cragster
Hey check out post # 9470 of this thread if u need further help. There are files posted for the MFT there. Compliments of funkybot so they are definitely good files
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At one point there was some debate about whether to include release messages (at they time they weren't necessary, but I think we convinced Geoff to agree we should always keep them), so I should warn, my MFTwister.mst doesn't actually include the release messages in the .mst at the moment, which would be required for using any of the buttons as a modifier.
Intertia's post includes the press and release commands that would be needed.
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08-18-2020, 12:56 PM
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#9980
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andyp24
Opinions please about the relative strengths and weaknesses of these two controllers for use with CSI?
Thanks
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Hello, I have the older Qcon ProX, precursor to the G2 kinda. I have a full review on this site somewhere, and gear slutz. But Airon is right, get your hands on if you can first. I wish I did, or I'd prob use the Xtouch now and the main reason is:
buttons - you can't tell from the pictures in either case, but the buttons on the Qcon are plastic and click. Personally, I hate that sound but I like the feel. In this case the biggest issue I have is that often pressing any button once will trigger a double press. This gets me often, i'm recording a client, I press record, I sit back, they perform....but the stupid darn thing actually stopped recording immediately because of double press. Ugh. Had I felt the buttons in advance I may have caught it and avoided. Just an example of why its important to get hands on. Xtouch buttons are rubber, soft, quiet. Opposite feel, and with my XT mini I have never had the double press ever. Not sure about the G2, but looks like the same buttons to me.
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08-18-2020, 01:55 PM
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#9981
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Human being with feelings
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Thanks for that poetnprophet
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08-18-2020, 01:59 PM
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#9982
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Human being with feelings
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Location: New Joisey
Posts: 5,990
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I've got the X-Touch One and can confirm I've never had an issue with double triggering on the rubber-ish buttons.
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08-19-2020, 01:22 AM
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#9983
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 18
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Has anyone had any success in using an iPad with TouchOSC / Lemur / Midi Designer to open up a two-way communication to a VSTi synth? So if a patch is loaded in the synth, all the iPad controls snap to the correct values?
It would be great to see a working example of this just to confirm that it is possible and to use as a starting point for creating some templates of my own.
Cheers.
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08-19-2020, 08:55 AM
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#9984
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schoko
Hi Folks,
trying to setup a control surface with my 24" Touch Monitor via OSC(with Open Stage Control -> https://openstagecontrol.ammd.net).
Did a fresh Reaper install, no midi devices are configured.
Followed the guide in the wiki...
Took the MackieC4Emu.ost file and added a mute1 widget:
Code:
Widget Mute1
Control /Mute1
FB_Processor /Mute1
WidgetEnd
Open Stage Control is sending to port 8090(and receiving on 8080) and reaper is muting the first channel (when pushing the Button on the Touch Monitor -> like wanted !!).
In CSI Edit Mode i can see in and out messages ("/Mute1").
But i do not receive any OSC Messages from Reaper in Open Stage Control (OSC Messages are monitored in Open Stage Control, Firewall in WIN10 is disabled).
What to do?
Thanks, klaus
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did you find a Solution for this ?
because i have the same Problem with Open Stage Control (O-S-C) -> https://openstagecontrol.ammd.net)
tested with lemur, TouchOSC, midi, etc all work fine.
but Open stage Control not, or only one way.
whats different about Open Stage Control is that its host application sends and receives from the same machine, localhost.
CSI blocks both in and out ports instead of just the out port in settings.
if i set CSI to:
8701 out
i cannot set OpenStageControl to:
8701 in
i get the error port already in use 8701 in O-S-C
maybe this is a bug or i do something wrong
bummer because OpenStageControl is literally the best out there, and free.
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08-19-2020, 10:29 AM
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#9985
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
Posts: 11,184
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Quote:
Originally Posted by conorg
Has anyone had any success in using an iPad with TouchOSC / Lemur / Midi Designer to open up a two-way communication to a VSTi synth? So if a patch is loaded in the synth, all the iPad controls snap to the correct values?
It would be great to see a working example of this just to confirm that it is possible and to use as a starting point for creating some templates of my own.
Cheers.
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Here's a quick demo using TouchOSC with VST FX, VSTi's will behave similarly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byqW...ature=youtu.be
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08-19-2020, 10:30 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shakespeare
did you find a Solution for this ?
because i have the same Problem with Open Stage Control (O-S-C) -> https://openstagecontrol.ammd.net)
tested with lemur, TouchOSC, midi, etc all work fine.
but Open stage Control not, or only one way.
whats different about Open Stage Control is that its host application sends and receives from the same machine, localhost.
CSI blocks both in and out ports instead of just the out port in settings.
if i set CSI to:
8701 out
i cannot set OpenStageControl to:
8701 in
i get the error port already in use 8701 in O-S-C
maybe this is a bug or i do something wrong
bummer because OpenStageControl is literally the best out there, and free.
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I'm no network guru, but I'm pretty sure you can't use the same port for in and out on the same IP address regardless of the software you are using.
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08-19-2020, 11:00 AM
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#9987
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Human being with feelings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington
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You're a fuck**g genius
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08-19-2020, 04:49 PM
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#9988
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2018
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Cakewalk surface
Hi,
I've a friend who has one of these, probably about 20 years old. He seems to think it won't send the correct midi messages to Reaper. Is this the case, or can I increase his joy potential?
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08-19-2020, 06:07 PM
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#9989
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Equitone
Hi,
I've a friend who has one of these, probably about 20 years old. He seems to think it won't send the correct midi messages to Reaper. Is this the case, or can I increase his joy potential?
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What Cakewalk surface? Do you have more information.
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08-19-2020, 06:31 PM
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#9990
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 123
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkybot
What Cakewalk surface? Do you have more information.
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No, I believe it was just marketted as the Cakewalk Control Surface.
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08-19-2020, 06:37 PM
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#9991
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 123
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Equitone
No, I believe it was just marketted as the Cakewalk Control Surface.
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I'm wrong. It's a Cakewalk StudioMix.
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08-20-2020, 10:54 AM
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#9992
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Join Date: Jan 2018
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If it means anything ,I used to use the Roland VS-700 (cakewalk branded) with CSI here when I first started...but i really need more faders and it wasn't expandable. Still is hands down the best engineered mixer control I ever touched....mannnnnn.
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08-20-2020, 11:14 AM
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#9993
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Joisey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Equitone
I'm wrong. It's a Cakewalk StudioMix.
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Not familiar with that one. CSI will work with MIDI, MCU, OSC, and EUcon. Wouldn't hurt to plug in the MIDI ports and see if it can send/receive data to CSI.
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08-20-2020, 02:22 PM
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#9994
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 123
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkybot
Not familiar with that one. CSI will work with MIDI, MCU, OSC, and EUcon. Wouldn't hurt to plug in the MIDI ports and see if it can send/receive data to CSI.
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I think it's a case of just firing it up with a blank .mst and .zon file. Run CSI_Edit and see what happens. Thanks
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08-21-2020, 06:42 AM
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#9995
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Berlin
Posts: 11,817
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Quote:
Originally Posted by poetnprophet
Hello, I have the older Qcon ProX, precursor to the G2 kinda. I have a full review on this site somewhere, and gear slutz. But Airon is right, get your hands on if you can first. I wish I did, or I'd prob use the Xtouch now and the main reason is:
buttons - you can't tell from the pictures in either case, but the buttons on the Qcon are plastic and click. Personally, I hate that sound but I like the feel. In this case the biggest issue I have is that often pressing any button once will trigger a double press. This gets me often, i'm recording a client, I press record, I sit back, they perform....but the stupid darn thing actually stopped recording immediately because of double press. Ugh. Had I felt the buttons in advance I may have caught it and avoided. Just an example of why its important to get hands on. Xtouch buttons are rubber, soft, quiet. Opposite feel, and with my XT mini I have never had the double press ever. Not sure about the G2, but looks like the same buttons to me.
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That is Good to know. Thank you. Shame since that display looked nice. Are the faders performing to your satisfaction ?
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08-21-2020, 08:48 AM
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#9996
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,651
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airon
That is Good to know. Thank you. Shame since that display looked nice. Are the faders performing to your satisfaction ?
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faders are great, pretty long throw, really great for automation. I was actually going to put the set for sale, but then I saw the prices are now up 50% so I guess I should just keep, who knows if they become collector. I don't think the ProX was very popular.
Also I was using my FP-1 to record myself, and those buttons also double press! THey are also plastic click buttons, unlike the FP2 which are better buttons.
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08-21-2020, 09:48 AM
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#9997
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Berlin
Posts: 11,817
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Yeah, the FP 1. Got that too but I have NEVER used those buttons for anything. Glad I do not have to depend on them.
The Faderport 16 is somewhat unfortunantely beset by a bug in either the firmware or the basic hardware design that brings down the rate of transfer for the position of faders, if any of the others are moving. It's been acknowledged by Presonus support, but there has been no development on this in months. Could be the human malware crisis, but in the meantime I would discourage any professional automation user from picking up any of the Presonus 8 and 16 units for heavy automation duties.
That's one of the reasons I'm looking at alternatives like the X-Touch.
And it's the reason I'm keeping my trusty little Faderport 1 around. Decent fader. I put an Alps fadercap on it too.
Can CSI deal with the Faderport 1 fader yet ? A long time ago I tried but CSI had no means by which to interpret what the fader does.
Hell, maybe I should get a Faderport v2 instead .
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08-21-2020, 12:57 PM
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#9998
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New Joisey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airon
Can CSI deal with the Faderport 1 fader yet ? A long time ago I tried but CSI had no means by which to interpret what the fader does.
Hell, maybe I should get a Faderport v2 instead .
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Nope. Still doesn't work with the FaderPort 1 fader.
Are you also a Studio One user? If not, I'd seriously look at the X-Touch One over the Faderport v2.
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08-21-2020, 01:44 PM
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#9999
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Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airon
Yeah, the FP 1. Got that too but I have NEVER used those buttons for anything. Glad I do not have to depend on them.
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The FPXT extension works for FP1 FYI.
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08-21-2020, 03:46 PM
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#10000
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Black Forest
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@Geoff
In regard to touch automation write mode:
how did you solve the issue that there is not touch release command in the Reaper API?
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