Dfk's Build-Your-Own Custom Toolbar Utility (v.1.05)

[babag]

looking forward!

[DarrenH]

@ Dararkias, I'm not the most technical person but am I right in thinking some settings are stored separately from the .lua and .ini such as font, grid info, etc?

What would you think of the idea of including all settings (where possible) included in the .ini so that the .lua and .ini would make the whole setup totally portable?

I just noticed that when bringing the script + .ini over to a new machine, certain settings had to be set up. I haven't tested this in the last couple of updates. Please disregard if I'm mistaken.

Originally Posted by Dafarkias

Fixed the outline problem. Fix will be in 1.03

Also now change button font color and change transparency are separate menu items

[grandfougue]

Hello cool update thanks

Little problem https://zupimages.net/up/21/15/x9he.gif
https://zupimages.net/up/21/15/js09.gif

When toolbar is not saved https://zupimages.net/up/21/15/41mh.gif

It works really great

It s possible to choose where is the return folder bouton and resize it ?

[Dafarkias]

@ DarrenH

You are correct, and that is a very well-thought request.

[Dafarkias]

@grandfougue

I'm not really seeing the issue. Are you referring to the thin bar at the top of the window?

[Dafarkias]

https://zupimages.net/up/21/15/js09.gif

^^^this is a known issue. Unfortunately there are limited options to choose from window schemes using Windows window styles

https://zupimages.net/up/21/15/41mh.gif

Would you please walk me through the exact steps to replicate this problem? I still haven't figured out how you triggered that behavior. What exact settings do I need to change?

[grandfougue]

https://zupimages.net/up/21/15/41mh.gif

Would you please walk me through the exact steps to replicate this problem? I still haven't figured out how you triggered that behavior. What exact settings do I need to change?[/QUOTE]

It does it even after saving but not every time complicated to explain

https://zupimages.net/up/21/15/t716.gif

I still think it happens when a button set has not been saved yet

[grandfougue]

Originally Posted by Dafarkias

@grandfougue

I'm not really seeing the issue. Are you referring to the thin bar at the top of the window?

yes it is normal ?

[Dafarkias]

@grandfougue

Yes the thin bar at the top is normal, now that I added the option to un/lock window resizing. There is no option around this that I know of.

Unfortunately, I am still not able to replicate that behavior. I can double check the code to try and tighten it up, but everything seems to be working here on my end :/



Have you changed any User Area settings from their defaults? That may help me to figure out the problem

[grandfougue]

Bizard yes i m using defaut option

it doesn't do it all the time it's complicated to really see what triggers it


aa when i moove to the right of the barre more right just a impression

explore all sufface of the barre when you mooving boutton

[Dafarkias]

Thanks to everyone for their support! I think I'm going to discontinue further production on the script for a couple reasons:

I don't use the script, I haven't actively used REAPER in the last 6 months, and it's eating up too much of my time.

I really enjoy scripting because it's a great creative outlet and it is (sometimes) satisfying, but I simply don't have the time.

[grandfougue]

Thank you to you I understand we wish you lots of good things Thank you all the same for this script


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[DarrenH]

Hey Dfk, you've created a really valuable addition to Reaper. And it's at a stable and useful stage. That's something to be proud of. Thank you for all of your work!

Originally Posted by Dafarkias

Thanks to everyone for their support! I think I'm going to discontinue further production on the script for a couple reasons:

I don't use the script, I haven't actively used REAPER in the last 6 months, and it's eating up too much of my time.

I really enjoy scripting because it's a great creative outlet and it is (sometimes) satisfying, but I simply don't have the time.

[babag]

Originally Posted by Dafarkias

... I'm going to discontinue further production on the script ...

been afraid this might happen. this is the problem with these kinds of scripts in reaper. somebody comes up with a great script that holds out the possibility of fixing some long standing reaper design issue, gets 80% of the way there, then leaves before it fully fixes the issue, leaving it useless.

i was really hoping this would make toolbars much more fluid and stable to deal with in reaper and it looked like it could do that. hasn't gotten to that point, though. maybe some other scripter will get it the rest of the way there.

for the above reasons i never actually put the script into use, only tested. i've learned not to invest too much into promising but unfinished scripts. more disappointed by this one than others, though. very sorry to see it end. hopefully some will get some use from it.

thanks for showing that it could be done,
babag

[DarrenH]

I would respectfully counter that the script is useful IMO...it's not going to solve every use case of course...a lot of tools are in continuous development all the time for that...but it's stable and serves a valuable purpose.

There's definitely a wide swath of spectrum between 'useful' and 'useless'. The good thing is that it's not closed code, another user did in this thread added the ability to save the toolbar without exiting, for example...we can always add additional functionality for our own use case.

I *dreamed* of a toolbar that would allow me to add background images, or make plain text buttons look nicer or accommodate more text than the stock Reaper toolbar look, without having to create manual images. So this answers that nicely for me.

Originally Posted by babag

been afraid this might happen. this is the problem with these kinds of scripts in reaper. somebody comes up with a great script that holds out the possibility of fixing some long standing reaper design issue, gets 80% of the way there, then leaves before it fully fixes the issue, leaving it useless.

i was really hoping this would make toolbars much more fluid and stable to deal with in reaper and it looked like it could do that. hasn't gotten to that point, though. maybe some other scripter will get it the rest of the way there.

for the above reasons i never actually put the script into use, only tested. i've learned not to invest too much into promising but unfinished scripts. more disappointed by this one than others, though. very sorry to see it end. hopefully some will get some use from it.

thanks for showing that it could be done,
babag

[babag]

point taken, however,

Originally Posted by DarrenH

There's definitely a wide swath of spectrum between 'useful' and 'useless'.

with every step along that spectrum, potential users fall away, leaving it pretty much useless with very few exceptions in the grand scheme of the community. i do hope someone picks it up, though. it has too much potential to abandon.

actually, the ideal thing would be for the devs to take these features and fold them directly into reaper's own toolbars.

[sondust]

@ Dafarkias

Just wanted to echo others to send appreciation for your work and bringing it to a really stable and mature place. As a light coder I have experienced the work that sometimes goes into even a simple script. This is another level entirely.

I might add a few tweaks for my own purposes, bringing some global parameters to the .ini for portability idea is a good one. But the real work has already been done.

Going back through the thread, you were hit with a lot of fix requests, feature requests, etc and you came back with solutions. And Tycho and MusoBob have proven that this tool can be brought to a high level and useful in a real way.

The bigger question is: what happened that you're not using Reaper much anymore? (not that there's anything wrong with that)

thanks again S

Originally Posted by Dafarkias

Thanks to everyone for their support! I think I'm going to discontinue further production on the script for a couple reasons:

I don't use the script, I haven't actively used REAPER in the last 6 months, and it's eating up too much of my time.

I really enjoy scripting because it's a great creative outlet and it is (sometimes) satisfying, but I simply don't have the time.

[Dafarkias]

Thanks for everyone's comments! I appreciate the understanding and positivity!

The only reason I really spent any time at all (really) working on this script was because of the positive feedback I received, and it felt good to give back to such a great community in a way where my contributions felt truly appreciated!

@sondust

Thank you!

REAPER is still my go-to DAW, I just haven't used it recently due to not actively participating in any sound engineering projects, sadly.

REAPER is still my weapon of choice

[MrTsonts]

Hello. Very cool script! But I can't figure out how to upgrade my custom scripts to the latest version. Thank you.

[sondust]

If you mean your toolbar configuration, you can rename your old .ini to correspond with the latest version number, so that the new version of the script sees it

Originally Posted by MrTsonts

Hello. Very cool script! But I can't figure out how to upgrade my custom scripts to the latest version. Thank you.

[MrTsonts]

Originally Posted by sondust

If you mean your toolbar configuration, you can rename your old .ini to correspond with the latest version number, so that the new version of the script sees it

Now my script is empty.

I really like this screenshot. It is a pity that you cannot transfer all the work done in 3 days to the new version.

[sondust]

You can. You didn't rename your .ini to the LUA did you?

The lua is the code. The .ini is the toolbar information.

Certain global settings aren't transferable (grid stuff, background image, etc.) but some settings are in the lua as well.

Originally Posted by MrTsonts

Now my script is empty.

I really like this screenshot. It is a pity that you cannot transfer all the work done in 3 days to the new version.

[MrTsonts]

Originally Posted by sondust

You can. You didn't rename your .ini to the LUA did you?

The lua is the code. The .ini is the toolbar information.

Certain global settings aren't transferable (grid stuff, background image, etc.) but some settings are in the lua as well.

I created a completely new one in the new version. He got his .ini. I copied from the old ini to the new one. But only two menu buttons appeared in the new one. And the folder with the buttons - no.

[sondust]

I would open the .ini in a text viewer and check if all the buttons are there, it's strange that some would be there but others not...

Originally Posted by MrTsonts

I created a completely new one in the new version. He got his .ini. I copied from the old ini to the new one. But only two menu buttons appeared in the new one. And the folder with the buttons - no.

[MrTsonts]

Originally Posted by sondust

I would open the .ini in a text viewer and check if all the buttons are there, it's strange that some would be there but others not...

With the second it turned out!
Thanks for your help!
But not immediately. There was a different grid resolution in the old one, so the new half of the buttons did not see)))))
But one script died in me ((((
But I have one more!!! Largest)))))
Thanks again!!!

[sondust]

Very happy to hear you got it working!

Originally Posted by MrTsonts

With the second it turned out!
Thanks for your help!
But not immediately. There was a different grid resolution in the old one, so the new half of the buttons did not see)))))
But one script died in me ((((
But I have one more!!! Largest)))))
Thanks again!!!

[MrTsonts]

Originally Posted by sondust

Very happy to hear you got it working!

It turns out that my first script did not die))))) Buttons shifted, the missing folder was under another button)))))
Thanks again!

[sondust]

Still working on design/layout/tools, but the custom toolbar works well.

(Those old left hand toolbars soon to be retired)

If this image is too large, the "Reaper 5" theme will constrain it (bottom left of page)

[Dafarkias]

Woah!

Very impressive.

To answer your PM also, I intended to make update the script to save all data to the .ini file.

It wouldn't be that difficult, maybe just a few hours of work...

[sondust]

Thank you Dafarkias, that would be so great...it would take me *much* longer to do it.

Will keep an eye out for an update if it's possible

Just from experience so far, this toolbar makes editing buttons/adding/removing scripts and FX so easy.

Originally Posted by Dafarkias

Woah!

Very impressive.

To answer your PM also, I intended to make update the script to save all data to the .ini file.

It wouldn't be that difficult, maybe just a few hours of work...

[Dafarkias]

Here you go sondust, try this out if you like.

I'm not uploading it to the main post ATM until it is stress tested.

I made large changes to the save/load system, so make sure you backup you .ini before testing out the new version for bugs

This version should be compatible with your current/previous .ini files.

If it doesn't work, or if you have errors let me and I should be able to help

Here's the changelog:

v1.03
---------Fixed issue with image button outlines not showing
---------Separated button edit menu font color/font transparency items
---------New Button Customization item: New button text color default
---------Script now saves entirely to .ini

[sondust]

It's working great so far! I've done a few prelim tests with moving buttons and closing/opening and everything's looking good. I'll give it some more intensive checking asap and try bringing the .ini and .lua over to my other machine and see how it opens up.

One thing for folks to remember who are manually copying from one .ini to another is to remove any trailing spaces, line feeds, etc. from the .ini, I've found it tends to throw an error if there's additional trailing spaces in the ini.

Will get back with updates, thank you!

[Dafarkias]

I honestly don't want to continue working on this script (or any scripts) but I'd like to add 'load configuration' and 'save as' as menu options before calling it quits.

And I might fix a few bugs too. Limited time offer to those who intend to use the script

If you find any bugs report sooner than later, no guarantees I will continue working on this script in the near future

[sondust]

Understood. If there was any "bug" I had to report, I noticed that when scrolling is locked you can still drag a button to force the window to scroll horizontally, which can leave you 'stranded'. It doesn't seem to happen vertically.

It's not much of an issue honestly. It doesn't crash, and if I happen to do this, I simply drag the button back to get back to the regular viewport.

Originally Posted by Dafarkias

I honestly don't want to continue working on this script (or any scripts) but I'd like to add 'load configuration' and 'save as' as menu options before calling it quits.

And I might fix a few bugs too. Limited time offer to those who intend to use the script

If you find any bugs report sooner than later, no guarantees I will continue working on this script in the near future

[Dafarkias]

Good catch.

I'll try and fix that.

[Pink Wool]

Thank you for such an awesome script, Dafarkias!

It's a shame you feel burned out by scripting though! Perhaps taking time off would be better than just straight up "quitting"? Whatever you choose, thank you for taking the time in the first place to do this!

PW

[babag]

the things i miss that have held me back from jumping in fully are:

- multiple toolbars
- visual feedback on click
- button state feedback

pretty much anything else has been addressed or seems like it might be addressed. also, with these features, this script would become a better and more full-featured replacement for reaper's native toolbar functionality.

sadly, i'm guessing that the above items are going to be too much, though, if you're already burnt out. i'm also guessing that the stand out feature and legacy of this project will be the pop up.

thanks for all the good work put in,
babag

[DarrenH]

Although tp be fair someone just visually demonstrated using multiple toolbars, and that was before Dfk made the .ini fully portable.

To each their own of course, but I'd say this toolbar is usable right now (Reaper's default toolbar functionality doesn't come close to this!)

Originally Posted by babag

the things i miss that have held me back from jumping in fully are:

- multiple toolbars
- visual feedback on click
- button state feedback

[Dafarkias]

@ Pink Wool

Thanks!

I don't think I'm burnt out, I just don't want to work on REAPER scripts anymore :P

@babag

You can already use multiple toolbars by duplicating the toolbar and giving it a new name in the User Area.

I could possibly add the toolbar state before I go hiatus.

[MrTsonts]

Originally Posted by Dafarkias

@ Pink Wool

Thanks!

I don't think I'm burnt out, I just don't want to work on REAPER scripts anymore :P

@babag

You can already use multiple toolbars by duplicating the toolbar and giving it a new name in the User Area.

I could possibly add the toolbar state before I go hiatus.

The script is cool. I'm happy to use it.
It would be convenient if, when closing the script window, the focus was set to the main window.