v6.46+dev0125 - January 25 2022

sockmonkey72 · 01-25-2022, 11:32 AM

v6.46+dev0125 - January 25 2022

* Includes feature branch: batch converter improvements
* Includes feature branch: improved zoomed-in peaks performance
* Includes feature branch: FX chain oversampling
* Includes feature branch: render internals simplification/cleanup
* Includes feature branch: user-defined action overhaul
* Includes feature branch: media explorer toolbar
* Includes feature branch: media item fixed lanes
+ Batch converter: display progress bar if conversion takes more than a short time
+ Batch converter: display the number of files and direectories in the list
+ Batch converter: don't embed project-specific metadata
+ Batch converter: faster response when updating a long list
+ Glue: improve handling of fades that overlap with other items [p=2519694]
+ Media items: add action to calculate loudness of selected items not including FX or track settings
+ Media items: hide VU meters when calculating loudness of selected items via dry run render
+ Project bay: fix display of shell VST3 plug-ins loaded by UID16 [t=262265]
+ Render: add menu items to render dialog to change which render statistics are displayed
+ Resampling: fix incorrect processing at end of item in r8brain free mode [t=262303]
# Batch converter: don't support $timelineidx wildcard
# Batch converter: improve "use source directory structure" behavior
# MIDI editor: fix various grid-related actions [p=2519203]
# Media item lanes: don't move cursor when double-clicking lane tab

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MrTsonts · 01-25-2022, 12:46 PM

# Media item lanes: don't move cursor when double-clicking lane tab

Fixed. I confirm. Developers thank you so much.
Maybe I want too much, but it would be interesting to have a modifier in this place with various useful features, for example, mute, solo in track, add to selection and so on.

Phazma · 01-25-2022, 01:45 PM

So no intention to fix the preset system for the batch converter?
I did a test: change all settings -> save a preset -> clear all settings -> recall preset.
Most settings appear not to be saved (which IMO makes the preset system kind of pointless).

Here a list of saved/recallable (YES) and unsaved/unrecallable (NO) settings:

OUTPUT
Directory: NO
Checkboxes below directory: NO
File name: NO

OPTIONS
Sample rate: YES
Channels: YES
Dither: NO
Noise shaping: NO
Resample mode: YES
Normalize/Limit: YES
Use FX: NO
Tail size: NO
Add new metadata: YES
Preserve start offset: NO
Preserve metadata: NO

OUTPUT FORMAT: YES
Sub-Options: mixed, inconsistent YES/NO for various formats.

So (while ignoring sub-options for various output formats) the result is 9 NO and 6 YES. Is this intentional? Is there some logical pattern behind how presets are saved? To me it seems rather arbitrary and buggy. I would expect all of these to be YES when saving a preset.

And btw while testing this I noticed that the "Clear all settings" option doesn't correctly clear the output format. It does always go back to WAV (I'd prefer "source" but wav makes sense) but the sub-options like bit depth, large files etc. remain what they were for the last conversion.

I hope this doesn't come over as overly critical/nitpicking. Other than this I really appreciate the improvements on the batch converter. The number of files display and progress bar are great!

Meo-Ada Mespotine · 01-25-2022, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phazma

So no intention to fix the preset system for the batch converter?
I did a test: change all settings -> save a preset -> clear all settings -> recall preset.
Most settings appear not to be saved (which IMO makes the preset system kind of pointless).

Here a list of saved/recallable (YES) and unsaved/unrecallable (NO) settings:

OUTPUT
Directory: NO
Checkboxes below directory: NO
File name: NO

OPTIONS
Sample rate: YES
Channels: YES
Dither: NO
Noise shaping: NO
Resample mode: YES
Normalize/Limit: YES
Use FX: NO
Tail size: NO
Add new metadata: YES
Preserve start offset: NO
Preserve metadata: NO

OUTPUT FORMAT: YES
Sub-Options: mixed, inconsistent YES/NO for various formats.

So (while ignoring sub-options for various output formats) the result is 9 NO and 6 YES. Is this intentional? Is there some logical pattern behind how presets are saved? To me it seems rather arbitrary and buggy. I would expect all of these to be YES when saving a preset.

And btw while testing this I noticed that the "Clear all settings" option doesn't correctly clear the output format. It does always go back to WAV (I'd prefer "source" but wav makes sense) but the sub-options like bit depth, large files etc. remain what they were for the last conversion.

I hope this doesn't come over as overly critical/nitpicking. Other than this I really appreciate the improvements on the batch converter. The number of files display and progress bar are great!

IIRC, the presets are actually using render-presets, who don't support many of the batch-converter-only options.
So the presets rather represent the output-format-settings, not all batch-converter-settings(haven't checked the changes in the dev-release in detail yet)
Though having the chance to store the other settings would be nice as well.

schwa · 01-25-2022, 02:33 PM

Currently the batch converter presets are shared with the render presets, so any converter settings that aren't also render settings, aren't saved in the preset. We will probably improve this but not necessarily soon.

Phazma · 01-25-2022, 02:59 PM

Ah, now it makes sense why certain settings are not saved. Well then for now I will enjoy the massively helpful "Clear all Settings" and all the other useful new features and hope this fix will happen in future.

Btw I have noticed that during a conversion the "Output Format" section is not grayed out and the settings can be changed (without having effect on the conversion in process). This is not a big problem but I guess it is supposed to gray out like "Output" and "Options", right?

clepsydrae · 01-25-2022, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sockmonkey72

[*]# Batch converter: improve "use source directory structure" behavior

Anything here that should be tested?

musicbynumbers · 01-26-2022, 01:24 AM

+ Media items: add action to calculate loudness of selected items not including FX or track settings

Thanks!

useful feature!

Tale · 01-26-2022, 01:42 AM

Quote:

+ Resampling: fix incorrect processing at end of item in r8brain free mode [t=262303]

Fix confirmed, thanks.

airon · 01-26-2022, 02:31 AM

For the Batchconverter, things are a LOT faster now.

The conversion runs at what I assume to be normal speeds. Tens of megabytes per second for Wavpack in this case.

Changing parameters still carries a delay, but it seems to have decreased in severity as well. When get to around 17000 files, the delay is maybe a quarter of a second. 40000 files and it's up to half to one second. At 64000 files it's up to almost two seconds.

That delay goes for selecting entries in the list as well.

One little bug that made its way in was that the "Use source directory structure" option no longer works. I tried this with a smaller batch of files as well. The Output column shows it not working, and the resulting files show it too.

schwa · 01-26-2022, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airon

"Use source directory structure" option no longer works. I tried this with a smaller batch of files as well. The Output column shows it not working, and the resulting files show it too.

Could you post a screenshot of this option not working the way you expect?

airon · 01-26-2022, 07:29 AM

Here you go.

schwa · 01-26-2022, 07:48 AM

Hard to know for sure because there might be other files not visible that aren't correct, but afaict that is the intended behavior. "Use source directory structure" will recreate only the *not* shared part of the source directories. If all of the source files are in DOOR_Cupboards/, then only the structure below DOOR_Cupboards will be used.

airon · 01-26-2022, 09:30 AM

I actually tossed in the directory above that, and it does contain several others. My screenshot may have been misleading.

Here's a bit where you see two directory sources but only a flat output.

schwa · 01-26-2022, 09:36 AM

Yes, that's not correct, agreed.

clepsydrae · 01-26-2022, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musicbynumbers

+ Media items: add action to calculate loudness of selected items not including FX or track settings

Oh I missed that -- awesome, thanks!

AZpercussion · 01-27-2022, 02:52 AM

+ Glue: improve handling of fades that overlap with other items [p=2519694]
+ Media items: add action to calculate loudness of selected items not including FX or track settings
# Media item lanes: don't move cursor when double-clicking lane tab

Special thanks from me! Cool!

But there is still wrong behavior in the end edge of glue.

01-25-2022, 11:32 AM	#1
sockmonkey72 Human being with feelings Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,729	v6.46+dev0125 - January 25 2022 v6.46+dev0125 - January 25 2022 * Includes feature branch: batch converter improvements * Includes feature branch: improved zoomed-in peaks performance * Includes feature branch: FX chain oversampling * Includes feature branch: render internals simplification/cleanup * Includes feature branch: user-defined action overhaul * Includes feature branch: media explorer toolbar * Includes feature branch: media item fixed lanes + Batch converter: display progress bar if conversion takes more than a short time + Batch converter: display the number of files and direectories in the list + Batch converter: don't embed project-specific metadata + Batch converter: faster response when updating a long list + Glue: improve handling of fades that overlap with other items [p=2519694] + Media items: add action to calculate loudness of selected items not including FX or track settings + Media items: hide VU meters when calculating loudness of selected items via dry run render + Project bay: fix display of shell VST3 plug-ins loaded by UID16 [t=262265] + Render: add menu items to render dialog to change which render statistics are displayed + Resampling: fix incorrect processing at end of item in r8brain free mode [t=262303] # Batch converter: don't support $timelineidx wildcard # Batch converter: improve "use source directory structure" behavior # MIDI editor: fix various grid-related actions [p=2519203] # Media item lanes: don't move cursor when double-clicking lane tab This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests. Changelog - Pre-Releases Generated by X-Raym's REAPER ChangeLog to BBCode

01-26-2022, 01:24 AM	#8
musicbynumbers Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South, UK Posts: 14,424	+ Media items: add action to calculate loudness of selected items not including FX or track settings Thanks! useful feature! __________________ subproject FRs click here note: don't search for my pseudonym on the web. The "musicbynumbers" you find is not me or the name I use for my own music.

01-26-2022, 02:31 AM	#10
airon Human being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Berlin Posts: 11,991	For the Batchconverter, things are a LOT faster now. The conversion runs at what I assume to be normal speeds. Tens of megabytes per second for Wavpack in this case. Changing parameters still carries a delay, but it seems to have decreased in severity as well. When get to around 17000 files, the delay is maybe a quarter of a second. 40000 files and it's up to half to one second. At 64000 files it's up to almost two seconds. That delay goes for selecting entries in the list as well. One little bug that made its way in was that the "Use source directory structure" option no longer works. I tried this with a smaller batch of files as well. The Output column shows it not working, and the resulting files show it too. __________________ Using Latch Preview (Video) - Faderport 16 setup for CSI 1.1 , CSI 3.10 Website "My ego comes pre-shrunk" - Randy Thom Last edited by airon; 01-26-2022 at 03:05 AM.

01-26-2022, 07:29 AM	#12
airon Human being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Berlin Posts: 11,991	Here you go. __________________ Using Latch Preview (Video) - Faderport 16 setup for CSI 1.1 , CSI 3.10 Website "My ego comes pre-shrunk" - Randy Thom

01-26-2022, 09:30 AM	#14
airon Human being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Berlin Posts: 11,991	I actually tossed in the directory above that, and it does contain several others. My screenshot may have been misleading. Here's a bit where you see two directory sources but only a flat output. __________________ Using Latch Preview (Video) - Faderport 16 setup for CSI 1.1 , CSI 3.10 Website "My ego comes pre-shrunk" - Randy Thom

01-25-2022, 12:46 PM	#2
MrTsonts Human being with feelings Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Ukraine, Kyiv Posts: 176	# Media item lanes: don't move cursor when double-clicking lane tab Fixed. I confirm. Developers thank you so much. Maybe I want too much, but it would be interesting to have a modifier in this place with various useful features, for example, mute, solo in track, add to selection and so on.

01-25-2022, 01:45 PM	#3
Phazma Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 3,188	So no intention to fix the preset system for the batch converter? I did a test: change all settings -> save a preset -> clear all settings -> recall preset. Most settings appear not to be saved (which IMO makes the preset system kind of pointless). Here a list of saved/recallable (YES) and unsaved/unrecallable (NO) settings: OUTPUT Directory: NO Checkboxes below directory: NO File name: NO OPTIONS Sample rate: YES Channels: YES Dither: NO Noise shaping: NO Resample mode: YES Normalize/Limit: YES Use FX: NO Tail size: NO Add new metadata: YES Preserve start offset: NO Preserve metadata: NO OUTPUT FORMAT: YES Sub-Options: mixed, inconsistent YES/NO for various formats. So (while ignoring sub-options for various output formats) the result is 9 NO and 6 YES. Is this intentional? Is there some logical pattern behind how presets are saved? To me it seems rather arbitrary and buggy. I would expect all of these to be YES when saving a preset. And btw while testing this I noticed that the "Clear all settings" option doesn't correctly clear the output format. It does always go back to WAV (I'd prefer "source" but wav makes sense) but the sub-options like bit depth, large files etc. remain what they were for the last conversion. I hope this doesn't come over as overly critical/nitpicking. Other than this I really appreciate the improvements on the batch converter. The number of files display and progress bar are great!

01-25-2022, 02:33 PM	#5
schwa Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY Posts: 17,813	Currently the batch converter presets are shared with the render presets, so any converter settings that aren't also render settings, aren't saved in the preset. We will probably improve this but not necessarily soon.

01-25-2022, 02:59 PM	#6
Phazma Human being with feelings Join Date: Jun 2019 Posts: 3,188	Ah, now it makes sense why certain settings are not saved. Well then for now I will enjoy the massively helpful "Clear all Settings" and all the other useful new features and hope this fix will happen in future. Btw I have noticed that during a conversion the "Output Format" section is not grayed out and the settings can be changed (without having effect on the conversion in process). This is not a big problem but I guess it is supposed to gray out like "Output" and "Options", right?

01-26-2022, 07:48 AM	#13
schwa Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY Posts: 17,813	Hard to know for sure because there might be other files not visible that aren't correct, but afaict that is the intended behavior. "Use source directory structure" will recreate only the not shared part of the source directories. If all of the source files are in DOOR_Cupboards/, then only the structure below DOOR_Cupboards will be used.

01-26-2022, 09:36 AM	#15
schwa Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NY Posts: 17,813	Yes, that's not correct, agreed.

01-27-2022, 02:52 AM	#17
AZpercussion Human being with feelings Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Moscow / Tbilisi Posts: 1,318	+ Glue: improve handling of fades that overlap with other items [p=2519694] + Media items: add action to calculate loudness of selected items not including FX or track settings # Media item lanes: don't move cursor when double-clicking lane tab Special thanks from me! Cool! But there is still wrong behavior in the end edge of glue. __________________ All my scripts Smart contextual split \| Fade tool - for items and envelopes \| Simple Project Reconform Donate (PayPal)