What do these buttons do?

[gm22]

I did something by accident to make visible some buttons on the tracks. What is this for, and how did I activate it?

[gm22]

Some random button pushing netted me two buttons, and now my sends and receives are no longer working. They're there, but no sound from them. Help needed.


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[gm22]

Having problems with everything. I can now hear my tracks with receives, but If I move a track with a receive up or down, it stops functioning. And I can no longer solo tracks with receives, for previewing them. If I solo them, there's no sound.

[mschnell]

Maybe the theme you installed is not very clear about the functions of the controls.

At least with the standard theme, hovering the mouse over a control shows useful information about same.

-Michael

[bigtop]

I also don’t understand the theme.

Can you reload an earlier undo state and take it from there?

Is there a time stamped auto backup that reverts everything?

I think that moving tracks up or down will mess up sends/receives routing etc.

Perhaps use theme adjust to reset standard theme then a picture might enable us to help.

Sorry you’re in a fix. Good luck.

[Bassman002]

HI

Don't have this Theme, but it looks like the Monitor Button, must have 3 States:

Auto/Off/On

No Light should be Off.

Bassman.

[White Tie]

Those are the folder buttons in Imperial. FYI If you hover your mouse over a button then Reaper will give you a tooltip.

[gm22]

Thanks for the replies. I watched a Kenny Jioia video on folders, but I'm still floundering. I still have no idea how I created a folder since I can't find a way to make one now with a test project. I followed the instructions from this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGY4UYBbxyM)

...but no folder icon appears on the track. I'm using Imperial theme.

[gm22]

In my test project I switched to default theme, and the folders are there. They do not appear in Imperial, at least not in the same place as it seems obvious that I activated it by accident. Would really prefer to continue with Imperial theme as I like it, but I need to be able to figure out how to make it work with this particular project I've committed a lot of time to.

[mschnell]

While it's great that Reaper provides the option to do and use alternate themes, you need to exactly know what you do and what to expect when using one. Custom themes might be not perfectly compatible with newer Reaper versions and might need some tweaking from time to time.

-Michael

[White Tie]

Reaper maintains backwards compatibility with all themes.

The way I styled the folder controls in Imperial was so that they mimiced the bus buttons on a console, but they aren't, they're just Reaper's folder controls. So there's going to be a level of abstraction there that you're going to find difficult, through no fault of your own. I would strongly advise when learnng Reaper that you use the stock default theme.

[Gibson_GM]

As stated...unless you actually know what controls should be present, it can be difficult and frustrating to go hunting easter eggs in a theme you don't know. Once you know stock Reaper controls, moving to a new theme would be far easier. I also suggest stock theme, or something easy like one of the Commala themes, which closely mimic the stock layout.

It's ok to change your theme mid-project, it will not 'do anything' to what you have recorded. In fact, sometimes I change the theme at different points in a project...1 for tracking, 1 for mixing and so on. The theme you change to will be saved when you Save Project, but no alteration of your items will occur.

[King Stupid]

load default theme. Problem probably fixed.

[gm22]

Originally Posted by White Tie

Reaper maintains backwards compatibility with all themes.

The way I styled the folder controls in Imperial was so that they mimiced the bus buttons on a console, but they aren't, they're just Reaper's folder controls. So there's going to be a level of abstraction there that you're going to find difficult, through no fault of your own. I would strongly advise when learning Reaper that you use the stock default theme.

Imperial is a brilliant design aesthetically, but sometimes users need explicit instructions.

There are no folder control buttons visible in Imperial as they are in default. In your reply here, you imply that folder tracks can indeed be created in Imperial. Can you please describe exactly how one opens a folder track in Imperial? Or at least describe what buttons replace the folder and plus sign icons and indicate where they can be found. Completely lost without this vital information.

[gm22]

Bump.

[bigtop]

Originally Posted by gm22

Bump.

https://www.houseofwhitetie.com/reap..._imperial.html


https://prorec.com/reaper-imperial-theme-review/

Suggest you read these. I don’t use this theme but the takeaway seems to be that it is a theme that mimics an analogue console and therefore it’s based around the MIXER view.

The buss buttons on the MIXER are actually folder buttons.

Tbh I echo the advice of White Tie and suggest you revert to default theme.

Alternatively you could duplicate your project in adjacent tabs then change the theme on one project and carry out a cross reference comparison IF it’s possible to do this (don’t know).

Good luck you brave theme warrior!😎

[White Tie]

Originally Posted by gm22

Bump.

I made the theme. I answered your question. What else was it you were hoping for?

[oneammonday]

If everybody keeps telling you that you're dead, maybe you should lie down.

[gm22]

Originally Posted by White Tie

I made the theme. I answered your question. What else was it you were hoping for?

With all due respect, you didn't answer the question. You said:

The way I styled the folder controls in Imperial was so that they mimiced the bus buttons on a console, but they aren't, they're just Reaper's folder controls. So there's going to be a level of abstraction there that you're going to find difficult, through no fault of your own. I would strongly advise when learnng Reaper that you use the stock default theme.

That response does not reveal how to create or remove a folder track in Imperial.

Now maybe it's not possible to create a folder track in Imperial, and thus one must go to default theme to do so, where this task is quite simple to execute. If this is the case, then kindly just say so without ambiguity.

If however one can in fact create a folder track in Imperial, then a sufficient answer would look something like this: Go to X (insert menu, command, or whatever answer here) and do Y. Just state it explicitly, please.

[Wallaby]

Moving tracks up and down for having the desired order is easy to do and very useful.
And very easy is it to move a track not between other tracks but into another track.
Folder created, by mistake. Move that track again to another place between other tracks, folder is deleted.

[lunker]

Originally Posted by gm22

Now maybe it's not possible to create a folder track in Imperial.

If however one can in fact create a folder track in Imperial, then a sufficient answer would look something like this: Go to X (insert menu, command, or whatever answer here) and do Y. Just state it explicitly, please.

Definitely possible to create folders with the Imperial theme.

Try dragging a track onto another track to turn the dragged track into a child of the track it was dragged onto. Drag the child track back out to make it not be a child track anymore.

When you drag the track, a blue line/bar will appear to let you know where it will be placed. You can tell from the blue line/bar whether it will be a child of the main track, a child of a child track, etc.

PS -- If a track has the buttons you asked about, it is a folder track (in Imperial, non-folder tracks do not have those buttons). So you seem to be creating folder tracks already. Whether you are doing it intentionally or not is another question ...

[gm22]

Originally Posted by oneammonday

If everybody keeps telling you that you're dead, maybe you should lie down.

The one thing I've always loved about Reaper is its very friendly and helpful forum, without which beginners like me would be lost. I've been a member for six years, but I have taken some extended breaks from attempting to record during this time. Of course it bothers me that I haven't been able to give back to the forum what I've taken from it, but I have answered at least two questions for others about very specific problems I've encountered over the years.

Your condescending post is not at all in keeping with what I've experienced here, and it added nothing to the conversation. I'm not dead. Not even remotely. And even though I'm a novice recording enthusiast with a very specific problem on my plate, I'm a competent guitar player and composer, and in fact I'm nearing completion of what I believe will be a recording people will actually listen to.

[gm22]

Thank you lunker and Wallaby. This was exactly the information I needed. Now I understand how to create a folder track, by dragging it 'onto' other tracks and releasing the mouse button when it's in the middle of the track. This is obviously how I accidentally created a folder track in the first place (careless shuffling of tracks) and solves a big part of the mystery I was experiencing.

I'll be practicing my folder manipulation this evening, and may have a follow up question or two later, but this definitely has me moving in the right direction.

[White Tie]

Originally Posted by gm22

With all due respect, you didn't answer the question.

Now maybe it's not possible to create a folder track in Imperial, and thus one must go to default theme to do so, where this task is quite simple to execute. If this is the case, then kindly just say so without ambiguity.

If however one can in fact create a folder track in Imperial, then a sufficient answer would look something like this: Go to X (insert menu, command, or whatever answer here) and do Y. Just state it explicitly, please.

That's not the question you asked, you asked what the buttons did. As regards folders in Imperial, its right there on the website:



You still haven't understood this, so please dial down the attitude, I am trying to help you : Imperial has missing buttons and represents the folder status in a highly stylised way. Let your takeaway be this : while learning this stuff you will find it all very much easier if you use the default theme.

[gm22]

Originally Posted by White Tie

That's not the question you asked, you asked what the buttons did. As regards folders in Imperial, its right there on the website:

You still haven't understood this, so please dial down the attitude, I am trying to help you : Imperial has missing buttons and represents the folder status in a highly stylised way. Let your takeaway be this : while learning this stuff you will find it all very much easier if you use the default theme.

In my thread title perhaps, but the information I was groping for was very obvious from my many posts:

"Thanks for the replies. I watched a Kenny Jioia video on folders, but I'm still floundering. 𝗜 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗯𝘆 𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗶𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗯𝘂𝘁𝘁𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀. What is this for, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗱𝗶𝗱 𝗜 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗶𝘁?

Imperial is a brilliant design aesthetically, 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗶𝘁 𝗶𝗻𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀. I still have 𝗻𝗼 𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗮 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗜 𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗮 𝗳𝗼𝗹𝗱𝗲𝗿 since I 𝗰𝗮𝗻'𝘁 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗱 𝗮 𝘄𝗮𝘆 𝘁𝗼 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗻𝗼𝘄 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗮 𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁. I followed the instructions from this video:"

"𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗻𝗼 𝗳𝗼𝗹𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗹 𝗯𝘂𝘁𝘁𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗶𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝗜𝗺𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗮𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝗱𝗲𝗳𝗮𝘂𝗹𝘁. In your reply here, you imply that folder tracks can indeed be created in Imperial. 𝗖𝗮𝗻 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗽𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝗱𝗲𝘀𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗯𝗲 𝗲𝘅𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗹𝘆 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗻𝘀 𝗮 𝗳𝗼𝗹𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝗶𝗻 𝗜𝗺𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗹? Or at least describe what buttons replace the folder and plus sign icons and indicate where they can be found. Completely lost without this vital information."

If however one can in fact create a folder track in Imperial, 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝗮 𝘀𝘂𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗮𝗻𝘀𝘄𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗸 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀: Go to X (insert menu, command, or whatever answer here) and do Y. 𝗝𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗶𝘁 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗶𝘁𝗹𝘆, 𝗽𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲.

All of these comments elicited the precise answer I needed from lunker and Wallaby. And I have no idea why you'd insist on people mastering Reaper in default before utilizing your Imperial theme. I've been using it without too much difficulty to this point, and this issue is now resolved. It might not have been a problem in the first place if there was a folder creating icon button in Imperial.

[Glennbo]

Originally Posted by White Tie

I made the theme. I answered your question. What else was it you were hoping for?

I'm not gm22, but can you tell me how to set the controls in Imperial for a killer mix?

[White Tie]

Originally Posted by gm22

It might not have been a problem in the first place if there was a folder creating icon button in Imperial.

Again, its right there on the website:



While learning this stuff you will find it all very much easier if you use the default theme.

[gm22]

That image does *not* explain how to create a folder track as per lunker's suggestion. And I'm not going to use default when I have your wonderful looking theme to use. I'm sorry if you think I'm not worthy.

[PMan]

gm22, I hear your frustration. Please accept this as a comment from someone who wishes you well.

Post #21 explains how to create folders. It is probably *not* the most intuitive method, but there is no other way.

Several people have suggested, and I would suggest as well, that you use a simpler theme while you are learning. If the answer in post #21 doesn't make sense, give yourself some time to learn Reaper, and then come back to the Imperial theme.

As stated in post #12: "It's ok to change your theme mid-project, it will not 'do anything' to what you have recorded."

Changing the theme only changes how your project looks. You will not lose any work by changing themes.

You are worthy. People are suggesting that you *lean how to use Reaper* with a simpler theme. You can always go back to Imperial later.

However, it is your choice.

If you want to continue with Imperial, you are entirely free to do so. But at this point your questions have been answered.

I will answer a few questions that I don't think have been asked:
1) Is there a button somewhere to create folders in the Imperial theme?
*NO* There are no buttons in Imperial to set a track as a folder.

2) Where are the folder icons?
There are also no folder icons.

3) What about the video?
The instructions in the Kenny Gioia video do not apply to the Imperial theme.

That is how the Imperial theme was built. It does not work like most themes. Post #21 tells you how to make a track a folder in the Imperial theme. There is no other way.


Once you understand how it works, you can decide if it works well for you. It does work, but it's different.

Welcome to Reaper, and good luck.

[bobobo]

@gm22

it could help if you switch the themes ( imperial and default) back and fro to look what those buttons do.
and it would help if you take a look and gather some knowledge about the default theme before. white tie's ( creator of both themes) recommendation is valid.

best wishes

[gm22]

Thanks PMan and Bobobo for the additional clarification. I've been practicing my folder track manipulation and have been toggling between themes, using default for organizing my project. I think I have a handle on it now.

[PMan]

Originally Posted by gm22

I think I have a handle on it now.

Yay!!!