v7.07+dev1226 - December 26 2023

[Jae.Thomas]

v7.07+dev1226 - December 26 2023

• * Includes feature branch: notify user if default menu changed after a menu was customized
• * Includes feature branch: media item edits in comping lane optionally affect media item edges in source lane
• * Includes feature branch: extended ASCII encoding for .wav file text metadata
• * Includes feature branch: preserve metadata when rendering media items
• * Includes feature branch: envelope list window improvements
• * Includes feature branch: video processors in containers
• * Includes feature branch: media items on higher numbered lanes optionally mask playback of lower lanes
• * Includes feature branch: large number of video items CPU use optimizations
• * Includes feature branch: record armed tracks obeying 'do not run muted tracks' preference
• * Includes feature branch: increase fixed lane limit to 256 lanes
• + Linux: fix multiline vertical alignment in messageboxes
• + Normalize: add option to render and batch converter to only normalize files that are too quiet
• + Parameter modulation: add topmost pin for modulation windows
• + Preferences: add preference to set target track for insert/paste when clicking in arrange view
• # Envelope manager: add Touched column
• # Envelope manager: auto-pin parameter modulation windows opened via topmost-pinned envelope manager
• # Envelope manager: by default show standalone views similar to old envelope window, shift+click (or option) to show in manager instead
• # Envelope manager: improve autoscroll during swipe
• # Envelope window: automatically switch back to selected tracks/takes in various scenarios

This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.

Changelog - Pre-Releases

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[Edgemeal]

Clicked "FLoat FX" in envelope window and the Context menu popped up then closed, then the fx window opened, then a sec latter REAPER just closed.

Win10_x64 created Dmp files...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12AR...usp=drive_link

[Justin]

Originally Posted by Edgemeal

Clicked "FLoat FX" in envelope window and the Context menu popped up then closed, then the fx window opened, then a sec latter REAPER just closed.

Win10_x64 created Dmp files...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12AR...usp=drive_link

Thanks, fixing! 1226a coming along shortly

[harmonicaman]

# Envelope manager: add Touched column
Excellent ! First I grabbed a parameter in vst, didn't see in list, and realized it reflects on mouse release. Wich is a far better idea than I first thought, a simple click activate it in list without changing anything.
For vst with large number of parameters, an option to auto scroll in envelope manager to the touched parameter would be cool.

edit ; Just saw it works the same way for the last toucher parameter action... All this time, I grabbed parameters instead of just clicking. We learn everyday (That my way to not say I feel dumb )

[Vagelis]

Quite a lot of improvements, thanks! There's still the issue when right click in envelope manager, for example to modulate a fx parameter, where it opens another menu after selecting it.

[sockmonkey72]

v7.07+dev1226a - December 26 2023

• * Includes feature branch: notify user if default menu changed after a menu was customized
• * Includes feature branch: media item edits in comping lane optionally affect media item edges in source lane
• * Includes feature branch: extended ASCII encoding for .wav file text metadata
• * Includes feature branch: preserve metadata when rendering media items
• * Includes feature branch: envelope list window improvements
• * Includes feature branch: video processors in containers
• * Includes feature branch: media items on higher numbered lanes optionally mask playback of lower lanes
• * Includes feature branch: large number of video items CPU use optimizations
• * Includes feature branch: record armed tracks obeying 'do not run muted tracks' preference
• * Includes feature branch: increase fixed lane limit to 256 lanes
• # Envelope manager: fix crash on autoclose

This thread is for pre-release features discussion. Use the Feature Requests forum for other requests.

Changelog - Pre-Releases

Generated by X-Raym's REAPER ChangeLog to BBCode

[AZpercussion]

+ Preferences: add preference to set target track for insert/paste when clicking in arrange view

Thanks for this! At least we have old behavior.
But could you also add an option or combine them into one option to avoid setting target track on tcp buttons clicking?
It's rather odd if mixing actions affect editing stuff.

[hans]

+ Normalize: add option to render and batch converter to only normalize files that are too quiet

Thanks!!

[airon]

Originally Posted by Jae.Thomas

v7.07+dev1226 - December 26 2023

• # Envelope manager: add Touched column
• # Envelope manager: auto-pin parameter modulation windows opened via topmost-pinned envelope manager
• # Envelope manager: by default show standalone views similar to old envelope window, shift+click (or option) to show in manager instead
• # Envelope manager: improve autoscroll during swipe
• # Envelope window: automatically switch back to selected tracks/takes in various scenarios

I'm out for a few days and this happens. Gotta try all this out.

Excellent!



-edit-

May I ask what the Touched column is and accomplishes ? I must have missed that.

After figuring out to shift+click on the envelope button it's fine piece of kit to setup automation.

Justin, you might want to figure out a way to put in button triggers for regular writing tasks in this location. Could be neat to let people know those actually exist, at the very least in an Action button menu. Write Active to Start, To Time Selection, To End, To Entire Envelope , swapping Trim and Track Volume envelope, recombining+zeroing trim envelopes... that sort of thing.

[hans]

In the envelope manager in "last touched FX parameters" we can right now only see one, and the latest touched parameter. Wouldn't it be very nice if it showed a history of the latest 10, 20 or so?

[Hipox]

While is Envelope Manager the highlight of latest pre-releases, can I bring up a feature request closely connected to closing the gap between Track Envelopes and FX Envelopes?

What is it about in a context of Envelope Manager:
When marking Track Envelope and FX Envelope as Visible, the behaviour is the same.
But if an envelope with exactly 1 envelope point is marked as Visible, no interaction happens on an envelope and then it's marked off - non Visible - I would expect the same behaviour for both types of envelopes.
FX Envelope stays Active while Track Envelope deactivates itself. I find the behaviour of Track Envelopes as the desirable one.

Please, consider it, oh mighty developers!

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=276507

[nofish]

^ Justin's explaination:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....64#post1658664

But I'd like to have it changed too (edit: But in the opposite direction as you. ):
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=157970

[Hipox]

Originally Posted by nofish

^ Justin's explaination:
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread....64#post1658664

But I'd like to have it changed too (edit: But in the opposite direction as you. ):
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=157970

Damn, I see why are there so many options in Reaper... everybody needs something different.
I have a workaround with deferred script that clears (deactivate) all FX envelopes when their Visible state changes, but still, it's another deferred script running in the background while the "merging" of an FX and Track envelopes, in my opinion, should go all the way to not recognizing any functional difference between them.

[srdmusic]

Now that we are diving into the envelop section of development, would it be too much to ask to add the the the abiltiy to edit, select or delete multiple envelopes across multiple tracks at once?

It is currently very time consuming if I want select and delete multiple track volume envelopes. IMHO the user should be able to Marqee select multiple envelope lanes on multiple tracks with a mouse drag and delete or edit them.

This would work similarly to how the MIDI CC lanes work. The user can select CC data on multiple lanes to delet or move them.

There could be a toggle checkbox in preferences under "Envelope Display/ Editing" stating something like: "Allow selection and editing of envelopes on multiple tracks" This toggle would server as a safety net for user who want to work the old way of editing one envelope lane at a time.

If this in not in the scope of the current envelope development, I'm happy to move this to a feature request instead of the pre-release forum.

Thanks again Devs for all your hard work.

[Mercado_Negro]

Originally Posted by srdmusic

Now that we are diving into the envelop section of development, would it be too much to ask to add the the the abiltiy to edit, select or delete multiple envelopes across multiple tracks at once?

It is currently very time consuming if I want select and delete multiple track volume envelopes. IMHO the user should be able to Marqee select multiple envelope lanes on multiple tracks with a mouse drag and delete or edit them.

This would work similarly to how the MIDI CC lanes work. The user can select CC data on multiple lanes to delet or move them.

There could be a toggle checkbox in preferences under "Envelope Display/ Editing" stating something like: "Allow selection and editing of envelopes on multiple tracks" This toggle would server as a safety net for user who want to work the old way of editing one envelope lane at a time.

If this in not in the scope of the current envelope development, I'm happy to move this to a feature request instead of the pre-release forum.

Thanks again Devs for all your hard work.

Been waiting years for that. Maybe it's a good time to tackle this down, devs?

[srdmusic]

Originally Posted by Mercado_Negro

Been waiting years for that. Maybe it's a good time to tackle this down, devs?

Pretty please? There is still time for a Christmas miracle.

[javiramallo]

Originally Posted by srdmusic

Now that we are diving into the envelop section of development, would it be too much to ask to add the the the abiltiy to edit, select or delete multiple envelopes across multiple tracks at once?

It is currently very time consuming if I want select and delete multiple track volume envelopes. IMHO the user should be able to Marqee select multiple envelope lanes on multiple tracks with a mouse drag and delete or edit them.

This would work similarly to how the MIDI CC lanes work. The user can select CC data on multiple lanes to delet or move them.

There could be a toggle checkbox in preferences under "Envelope Display/ Editing" stating something like: "Allow selection and editing of envelopes on multiple tracks" This toggle would server as a safety net for user who want to work the old way of editing one envelope lane at a time.

If this in not in the scope of the current envelope development, I'm happy to move this to a feature request instead of the pre-release forum.

Thanks again Devs for all your hard work.

Always thought that that was strongly needed!

[nofish]

Envelope manager window (small thing):
I don't know why but I'm always tempted to double click over the Name field in a line to enable/toggle Act/Vis/Arm but nothing happens.
Would it make sense to add this?

[Kenny Gioia]

Originally Posted by srdmusic

Now that we are diving into the envelop section of development, would it be too much to ask to add the the the abiltiy to edit, select or delete multiple envelopes across multiple tracks at once?

It is currently very time consuming if I want select and delete multiple track volume envelopes. IMHO the user should be able to Marqee select multiple envelope lanes on multiple tracks with a mouse drag and delete or edit them.

This would work similarly to how the MIDI CC lanes work. The user can select CC data on multiple lanes to delet or move them.

There could be a toggle checkbox in preferences under "Envelope Display/ Editing" stating something like: "Allow selection and editing of envelopes on multiple tracks" This toggle would server as a safety net for user who want to work the old way of editing one envelope lane at a time.

If this in not in the scope of the current envelope development, I'm happy to move this to a feature request instead of the pre-release forum.

Thanks again Devs for all your hard work.

Like this?



Or this?

[srdmusic]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia

Like this?

Thank you Kenny!

I didn't realize marquee select could select multiple multiple parts like that.

The problem for me is that marquee select also slects all items withing the selection. So if I hit the delete button on the selection it also deletes the selected items.

I suppose my goal is a bit more complicated I want to marquee select multiple evelopes and just delete them not the items they are attached to.

I've done some tests where I marquee select multiple envelope points on multiple tracks and I use the action "Envelope: Delete all selected point" Nothing happends. None of the points delete. To me that's an unexpected bug. I select envelope points and tell the program to delete the selected points, I expect it to delete them.

Any other suggestions on how to achive what I'm after?

Thanks again for your help Kenny. Love your tutorial videos.

[srdmusic]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia

Like this?

Kenny and Chat GPT to the rescue!!!!! Kenny gave me an idea and I fleshed it out with Chat GPT.

For anyone who wants to select multiple envelope points and delete them on multiple tracks, attached is the script that does it.

First, you Razor edit select an area of envelopes, and then run the script. The script deletes just the razor area selected envelope points. The script disregards any selected items within the razor edit area.

I have assigned the script to my Back Space key. So that "Del" does normal selection deletes and "Back Space" deletes razor selection envelopes.

One note for the DEVs:
As far as I can tell, there is no API for Reaper to select envelope points within a razor editor area. As a work around Chat GPT and I used a trick where we matched time selection to the razor edit area. It's not a big deal but if a new API was introduced to allow us to select envelope points within a razor edit area, then this script would run more efficiently.Attached Files

[Buy One]

How do you create razor edit areas in envelope lanes only?

Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia

Like this?

[Kenny Gioia]

Originally Posted by Buy One

How do you create razor edit areas in envelope lanes only?

It should do that by default.

Do you have this ON?

[Kenny Gioia]

Originally Posted by srdmusic

The problem for me is that marquee select also selects all items within the selection. So if I hit the delete button on the selection it also deletes the selected items.

Use Razor Edits. And make sure this is OFF?

[Buy One]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia

It should do that by default.

Do you have this ON?

No, it's off by default and i still cannot manage to do this.

What i mean is creating several razor edit areas at once on envelope lanes only, because this is what you appear to be doing in the animation, or is this an illusion?

UPD: Figured it out, track grouping for razor editing must be enabled, although i don't see an earmark indicating grouping to the right of the TCP in your animation

[nofish]

Originally Posted by Kenny Gioia

On a nitpicky sidenote, the 'Razor edits in media item lane...' entry is present twice (top level and Razor edits submenu, as seen in the screenshot) isn't that redundant?

[Kenny Gioia]

Originally Posted by nofish

On a nitpicky sidenote, the 'Razor edits in media item lane...' entry is present twice (top level and Razor edits submenu, as seen in the screenshot) isn't that redundant?

Fixed in the new Dev:

+ Menus: remove some redundant razor edit / envelope point menu entries [p=2747122]

Thanks

[Edgemeal]

Originally Posted by nofish

Envelope manager window (small thing):
I don't know why but I'm always tempted to double click over the Name field in a line to enable/toggle Act/Vis/Arm but nothing happens.
Would it make sense to add this?

+1
I was just trying to do that in +dev0120 and was surprised it didn't work. Hopefully its added before it hits release.