Notation Editor Bug When Adjusting Velocity

[michael diemer]

When I adjust note velocity in notation editor by using the Event Properties box, sometimes the note duration gets changed also. It doesn't happen every time. seems to have something to do with what the note duration is before I make the velocity change. The only way to prevent it is to delete the note duration before I do the change. I hope this can be fixed for version 7, as it really messes with my work flow.

[michael diemer]

Alternatively, is there another way I can adjust note velocity while in the notation editor? I know I can go to PRV and do it there, but for me that is very cumbersome. Much easier to put a number in a box than draw a line from somewhere to somewhere!

[schwa]

Hmm, the only reason I can think why the note duration would change is if multiple notes are selected. Are you selecting only one note?

[michael diemer]

Originally Posted by schwa

Hmm, the only reason I can think why the note duration would change is if multiple notes are selected. Are you selecting only one note?

Actually, it does not happen if the note values are different. In that case, the Length box will be empty. It only happens if the note values are all the same, and it doesn't seem predictable. For example, if all the notes are quarter notes: the Length box will have 0.1.00. If the glitch happens, that value will change after making the velocity adjustment, and the notes on the screen will have a different value, usually either doubled or halved.

For now I'm just redoing it, and then I delete the value in the Length box before making the velocity change, and the glitch doesn't happen. But it does disturb my workflow.

[schwa]

Hmm, I would like to be able to reproduce this. Is it possible to get into a project state where it happens consistently?

[michael diemer]

Originally Posted by schwa

Hmm, I would like to be able to reproduce this. Is it possible to get into a project state where it happens consistently?

Not sure what you mean. I work in the notation editor and event list, primarily. I select notes for editing, sometimes over several measures, and then call up the Event Properties box, and do my changes there. This works really well for velocity, as you can select a large number of notes, and change them all at once (assuming you want them all to have the same velocity). In the event list, the notes will all be highlighted, but you can only change one at a time, as far as I know.

It does happen during every session. But not consistently. If I suspect it will happen in a given situation, I first delete the note length values, then it will work OK. I would estimate it happens maybe 15% of the time? something like that.

[schwa]

What I mean is, this sounds like possibly a general bug with how changes are applied from the event properties dialog, but I'm not able to reproduce it. If I could reproduce it then we could fix it. So ideally we could use a saved project that consistently reproduces the problem, or next best a set of instructions that consistently reproduces the problem. There is some dependency on the project state (what notes are selected, where the notes are, whether the notes overlap or not, tempo changes, who knows what) or else it would happen every time.

[michael diemer]

I'll see if I can make that happen. May take a while.

Oh, I see you added some info. Would you like me to send you a project?

[schwa]

If you have a project that consistently demonstrates the problem, then yes definitely. Ideally after stripping everything out of the project except the minimum required to show the problem.

[michael diemer]

All my projects have the problem. They are large orchestral projects. lots of notes! I'm not sure how to "strip out everything but the bare minimum necessary to demonstrate the problem."

[michael diemer]

I can send you a stripped-down project, with just one instrument track, where the problem happens at measure 67. I don't know how to send that to you, however. I was going to send you an email, but I could not see how to do an attachment.

[schwa]

You can email it to support at cockos, thanks!

[schwa]

Thanks for sending the project. The actual bug is this: when selecting multiple notes, and the notes all have the same length in MIDI ticks, but the note length in beats is different from what it would be at the start of the project due to time signature changes, then the length is displayed incorrectly in the event properties dialog. Fixing, thanks for the report.

[michael diemer]

Thanks Schwa, I look forward to upgrading to Reaper 7 once it's fixed!

[Holzwurm]

Originally Posted by schwa

a general bug with how changes are applied from the event properties dialog

I have one to offer
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=283557