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Old 06-13-2017, 06:35 AM   #1
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Default RS5k envelopes behave differently when controlled by mouse vs control change

1- load a suitably long sample into RS5k
2- set start and end point so the sample contains less than 2000 ms of sound
3- adjust attack via mouse.
NOTE: attack knob moves the attack param from position 0ms to (sample length ms). DESIRED BEHAVIOR
4- assign attack to MIDI CC.
5- adjust attack via MIDI CC.
ISSUE: attack moves from 0-2000ms regardless of start/end. this behavior is different from the desired behavior that occurs when using the mouse and makes adjusting the attack (and other parameters) too coarse to be useful in performance.

TLDR: please make RS5k params obey the selection time when being controlled by CC.
NOTE this is also an issue with Decay and a couple of other parameters.
NOTE also that for synthesis/sound design purposes, when LOOP ON is enabled, it may be the case that the user wants a longer attack than sample length to be possible. this should be available by "attack length" modification checkbox, or the ability to enter a high and low limit to the knob itself ie "5ms min" and "5000 ms max" ... or something similar ALA "note off release override"

another related issue when mousing:
4b- adjust the sample to contain MORE than 2000 ms of sound
5b- adjust attack via mouse. NOTE: attack knob "tops out" at 2000 ms. this is UNDESIRED behavior, parameter should continue to expand to selection end.

original issue in GIF form:

attack param when controlled by mouse (desired behavior):



attack param when when controlled by CC (undesired behavior):
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Old 06-17-2017, 06:58 PM   #2
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to add to this, enabling envelopes for these parameters have the same problematic behavior as midi learns do
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Old 08-16-2017, 12:01 PM   #3
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this remains a significant issue in an otherwise excellent and criminally overlooked sampler.

please give us threshold control so that we can better use this plugin with hardware.
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Old 10-29-2017, 11:23 AM   #4
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2 month bump
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Old 10-29-2017, 12:58 PM   #5
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I've not tried to do that with the attack, but I've had other problems.

RS5K really does need some lovin'.
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Old 11-01-2017, 09:56 AM   #6
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or just allow it to be accessed by the myriad 3rd party developers who exist on this forum

RS5K is unnecessarily crippled right now and i have used it on every project since 2013 so i'm painfully aware of its strengths and limitations
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