Old 01-02-2019, 01:49 AM   #2081
ivansc
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 18,785
Default

See what you mean about the hoops! It decided that I didnt want the Win version & told me I had ordered the Mac version, then told me I couldnt download it unless I logged in (again) and then entered my product number, which was supposed to be in the email confirming my account. The number in that email was rejected, which was when I decided to give up and add on to your post as a warning to others. Tried to use their contact us button and they want all the same registration/login information over again.

They may make decent plugins but they need a new webmaster.
__________________
Brexit Schmexit. Lets have a violent revolution instead. Bagsy the first go with a nuke! (Here, Moggy Moggy...)
ivansc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2019, 02:14 AM   #2082
bladerunner
Human being with feelings
 
bladerunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kent, UK
Posts: 4,682
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ivansc View Post
See what you mean about the hoops! It decided that I didnt want the Win version & told me I had ordered the Mac version, then told me I couldnt download it unless I logged in (again) and then entered my product number, which was supposed to be in the email confirming my account. The number in that email was rejected, which was when I decided to give up and add on to your post as a warning to others. Tried to use their contact us button and they want all the same registration/login information over again.

They may make decent plugins but they need a new webmaster.
It's probably the worst hoop jumping I've ever experienced for a plugin. I'm not sure I did the right thing in recommending it now. The product number was rejected a few times for me until I figured out where it wanted it (I think it was 'register' rather than 'activate' on their licenser?).
bladerunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-02-2019, 02:41 AM   #2083
ivansc
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 18,785
Default

Well I finally got it installed. FFS! Even when I tried to enter the Product number it told me it was incorrect several times till I realised that when pasted, the installer was adding a space at the beginning of the product number which I had to delete before uit recognised it! Too worn out to try it, I think I am just going to emty out all those emails and uninstall the damn thing.
Totally NOT recommended. Also, one of the slowest downloads I have ever seen!
Never even got remotely close to 1mb on my fibre broadband.
__________________
Brexit Schmexit. Lets have a violent revolution instead. Bagsy the first go with a nuke! (Here, Moggy Moggy...)
ivansc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2019, 02:58 AM   #2084
PTF
Human being with feelings
 
PTF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 137
Default free gear

Audio Assault's the punch plugin is currently a time-limited freebie (Offer Valid until March 27th 8pm CST). I can't comment on how good it is as I haven't downloaded it yet, but going by their previous free offering (druminator) it might be worth a look.

https://www.audio-assault.com/thepun...eid=db451c3b01

And here's another great free one-knobber!

https://bedroomproducersblog.com/201...d-freeamp-vst/
__________________
"Just when I thought I could not be stopped
When my chance came to be king
The ghosts of my life blew wilder than the wind"
PTF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2019, 07:34 AM   #2085
MusicMan74
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 31
Default

I recently stumbled across these while searching for a free x64 Pitch Shift VST:

PitchTech LADSPA and VST Plugins
Ear-catching exotic and experimental free audio effects
(Available in x86 and x64 versions)

https://www.pitchtech.ch/Plugins/index.html
MusicMan74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2019, 09:53 AM   #2086
skippertag
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 396
Default

Thank you guys for theses valuable pieces of information
skippertag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2019, 04:12 AM   #2087
Goldreap
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 955
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MusicMan74 View Post
I recently stumbled across these while searching for a free x64 Pitch Shift VST:

PitchTech LADSPA and VST Plugins
Ear-catching exotic and experimental free audio effects
(Available in x86 and x64 versions)

https://www.pitchtech.ch/Plugins/index.html

The developer says "Most of the effects have a "quality" setting. Leave it to the lowest value for realtime use or quick tests. Higher quality values can be up to 100 times slower (!), and usually do not run at realtime speed (there are only useful for off-line processing)."
If you attempt to change the quality setting REAPER crashes.

Nevertheless some of the FX are pretty good.
PT Octave Shifter produces a very stable shift without the tinny warbling you get in a lot of pitch shifters. (But we already have the excellent Cockos ReaPitch.)
PT STN separates the sound into Sinuses, Transients and Noise, and allows the level of each part to be adjusted....works well (similar to the 'voice of snow' plugin).
PT Smooth + Rough and PT Stable + Unstable are interesting.
Goldreap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2019, 07:03 AM   #2088
politicalEconomist
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 29
Default Impressive Free Amp+Effects+Cabs Sim Plugin

I am a happy S-Gear user but I just ran across this free Amp Sim and was very impressed. This is now my "go to" recommendation for free/inexpensive Amp Sim plugs.

https://tonelib.net/gfx-overview/

(This was discussed over in the Linux forum, but I did not see it mentioned anywhere else. I also posted this on another "Free Plugins" Thread, but this thread looks more comprehensive.)
politicalEconomist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2019, 12:07 AM   #2089
ivansc
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 18,785
Default

Just D/L`d. Cant see anything Fender apart from the Comfortably Torpid... Am I missing something? No tweed either.
__________________
Brexit Schmexit. Lets have a violent revolution instead. Bagsy the first go with a nuke! (Here, Moggy Moggy...)
ivansc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2019, 06:08 AM   #2090
BenK-msx
Human being with feelings
 
BenK-msx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Whales, UK
Posts: 5,525
Default

The tonelib suite isn't too bad, little fizzy, which I helped by placing airwindows hombre after it.
Am sure there are other tricks too.
BenK-msx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2019, 10:18 AM   #2091
SmajjL
Human being with feelings
 
SmajjL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,951
Default

Had an old DSK Indian DreamZ laying around and wondered if they made something else? seems like it.

"DSK Music Virtual Instruments are 100% free for private and commercial use."

They have "Pro" versions also but I can't speak about them, just found this out myself, so and, some might be 32bit, but hey..

https://www.dskmusic.com/
__________________
:)
SmajjL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2019, 02:18 AM   #2092
ivansc
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 18,785
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmajjL View Post
Had an old DSK Indian DreamZ laying around and wondered if they made something else? seems like it.

"DSK Music Virtual Instruments are 100% free for private and commercial use."

They have "Pro" versions also but I can't speak about them, just found this out myself, so and, some might be 32bit, but hey..

https://www.dskmusic.com/
I used to use several of their plugins back in the day. Looking through the list this is a huger bang for the buck. Wondering about picking it up "just because" - at least I have more hard drive space now than back then... Tanks, Smudjie!

XXX
__________________
Brexit Schmexit. Lets have a violent revolution instead. Bagsy the first go with a nuke! (Here, Moggy Moggy...)
ivansc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2019, 02:20 AM   #2093
ivansc
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 18,785
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BenK-msx View Post
The tonelib suite isn't too bad, little fizzy, which I helped by placing airwindows hombre after it.
Am sure there are other tricks too.
Shame - I just dumped it. Great for rock and/or metal players, though.

After reading this, I am wondering if I should go back & try it with hombre....
__________________
Brexit Schmexit. Lets have a violent revolution instead. Bagsy the first go with a nuke! (Here, Moggy Moggy...)
ivansc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2019, 03:27 AM   #2094
sai'ke
Human being with feelings
 
sai'ke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NL
Posts: 646
Default

Oooh, I like this list

Epicverb is my go to verb for large spaces and air.

Oatmeal is my go to synth for hardsync. It's super light as well.

In the jsfx subforum there's also ReEq which is lovely.

I made a few jsfx, they're probably a tad too hungry for your list, but maybe some of them can go in the honorable mentions.

Stereo bub ii, a small widener with crossover that doesn't affect the mono mix.
Tight compressor, a fast attack compressor with optional oversampling.

The following two are a bit heavier on the cpu, but can add quite a bit of color:
Squashman, multiband distortion plugin with lfo's, envelopes and dynamics processing.
Filther, a drawable spline waveshaper with dual nonlinear filters. Fully automatable with lfo, envelopes, dynamics and step sequencer.

The others are probably a bit too specialized for this list.
__________________
[Tracker Plugin: Thread|Github|Reapack] | [Routing Plugin: Thread|Reapack] | [Filther: Thread|Github|Reapack] | [More JSFX: Thread|Reapack]
sai'ke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2019, 05:03 AM   #2095
JamesPeters
Human being with feelings
 
JamesPeters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Near a big lake
Posts: 2,559
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sai'ke View Post
Epicverb is my go to verb for large spaces and air.
Try Dragonfly Hall and Room plugins.
__________________
http://petersamplification.com
Using REAPER for Linux
JamesPeters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2019, 06:07 AM   #2096
sai'ke
Human being with feelings
 
sai'ke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NL
Posts: 646
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesPeters View Post
I will!
__________________
[Tracker Plugin: Thread|Github|Reapack] | [Routing Plugin: Thread|Reapack] | [Filther: Thread|Github|Reapack] | [More JSFX: Thread|Reapack]
sai'ke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2019, 01:25 PM   #2097
SmajjL
Human being with feelings
 
SmajjL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,951
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ivansc View Post
I used to use several of their plugins back in the day. Looking through the list this is a huger bang for the buck. Wondering about picking it up "just because" - at least I have more hard drive space now than back then... Tanks, Smudjie!

XXX
You are welcome Sir.Donut-Master
If the rest is also just un-zip&thx and not *meh* installme4evah then I see why not, don't think this with provoke your SSD much.
X0X0
__________________
:)
SmajjL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2019, 12:54 PM   #2098
JamesPeters
Human being with feelings
 
JamesPeters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Near a big lake
Posts: 2,559
Default

TbT's "TLs-1295-LEA" compressor:

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=222369

Be sure to watch the video, and pay specific attention to what's going on in the second half of it. This is a great plugin.

For Windows and Linux. There are other plugins he's released but so far they're only Linux (Windows folks, keep your fingers crossed):

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=222429

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=222420

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=222397

He'll be releasing more plugins too. All of them (at least so far) have those extra features in the bottom menu.
__________________
http://petersamplification.com
Using REAPER for Linux
JamesPeters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2019, 01:07 PM   #2099
citizenkeith
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ohio
Posts: 699
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesPeters View Post
TbT's "TLs-1295-LEA" compressor:

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=222369

Be sure to watch the video, and pay specific attention to what's going on in the second half of it. This is a great plugin.

For Windows and Linux. There are other plugins he's released but so far they're only Linux (Windows folks, keep your fingers crossed):

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=222429

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=222420

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=222397

He'll be releasing more plugins too. All of them (at least so far) have those extra features in the bottom menu.
They look great... sadly, no plans for Mac versions. I use both Windows at the studio where I work and Mac at my home studio, so I try to find plugins that I can use in my projects, wherever I might be working. Hopefully TbT will reconsider porting these to Mac.
citizenkeith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2019, 02:30 PM   #2100
BenK-msx
Human being with feelings
 
BenK-msx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Whales, UK
Posts: 5,525
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ivansc View Post
Shame - I just dumped it. Great for rock and/or metal players, though.

After reading this, I am wondering if I should go back & try it with hombre....
Am no Axe wizard and been happy with kuassa Sims but the fizz is historically a symptom of the less good Sims, still handy perhaps for the stomps.
BenK-msx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2019, 03:24 PM   #2101
JamesPeters
Human being with feelings
 
JamesPeters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Near a big lake
Posts: 2,559
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenkeith View Post
They look great... sadly, no plans for Mac versions. I use both Windows at the studio where I work and Mac at my home studio, so I try to find plugins that I can use in my projects, wherever I might be working. Hopefully TbT will reconsider porting these to Mac.
That's doubtful since he has never owned or worked on a Mac and actually recently switched from Windows to Linux, as he told us on that first thread. If anything I'd say Windows users should feel fortunate to get Windows versions of these.
__________________
http://petersamplification.com
Using REAPER for Linux
JamesPeters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2019, 08:06 PM   #2102
citizenkeith
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ohio
Posts: 699
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesPeters View Post
That's doubtful since he has never owned or worked on a Mac and actually recently switched from Windows to Linux, as he told us on that first thread. If anything I'd say Windows users should feel fortunate to get Windows versions of these.
Understood. They are great plugins that I hope everybody could use. What's wrong with that?
citizenkeith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2019, 10:16 AM   #2103
scruffy
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 2
Default Still Updated?

It appears the original post that is supposedly updated regularly hasn't been updated in over 4 years.

The very first recommended freeware 'oatmeal' is a dead link.

Are the recommendations made by the original poster still valid in 2019?

I'm new to Reaper and the entire music scene... so learning a lot right now. Thanks for any thoughts!
scruffy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2019, 10:24 AM   #2104
vitalker
Human being with feelings
 
vitalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,796
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scruffy View Post
Are the recommendations made by the original poster still valid in 2019?

I'm new to Reaper and the entire music scene... so learning a lot right now. Thanks for any thoughts!
Original poster is one of the VST synths author (https://www.fullbucket.de/music/).
Here are some links, which can help you:
https://bedroomproducersblog.com/
http://vstplanet.com/
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexan View Post
Make a thread "F%#! you Reaper! I quit!" to get more views and feedback since these kind of threads get much more traction
SoundCloudFR: True Non-destructive GLUEAll the REAPER names
vitalker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2019, 08:59 AM   #2105
scruffy
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vitalker View Post
Original poster is one of the VST synths author (https://www.fullbucket.de/music/).
Here are some links, which can help you:
https://bedroomproducersblog.com/
http://vstplanet.com/
Thanks so much!
scruffy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2019, 02:40 PM   #2106
bladerunner
Human being with feelings
 
bladerunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kent, UK
Posts: 4,682
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scruffy View Post
Thanks so much!
And the daddy of them all.

http://www.vst4free.com/
bladerunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2019, 04:09 PM   #2107
rainydayshirts
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Missouri, USA
Posts: 7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bladerunner View Post
And the daddy of them all.

http://www.vst4free.com/
+1 I hardly ever see this site mentioned, but it is my go to.
rainydayshirts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2019, 02:27 AM   #2108
morgon
Human being with feelings
 
morgon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: 'straya
Posts: 8,744
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bladerunner View Post
And the daddy of them all.

http://www.vst4free.com/
Here's hoping you're recovering ok from your accident mate, cheers.
morgon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2019, 04:40 AM   #2109
rainydayshirts
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Missouri, USA
Posts: 7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ivansc View Post
I used to use several of their plugins back in the day. Looking through the list this is a huger bang for the buck. Wondering about picking it up "just because" - at least I have more hard drive space now than back then... Tanks, Smudjie!

XXX
I recently (like within the last week or so) purchased the Pro samples. Went with the SFZ package to use in Renoise. There are some fantastic samples in there. The set might not be worth hundreds of dollars, but at $25USD, I consider it a steal.
rainydayshirts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 10:22 PM   #2110
technogremlin
Human being with feelings
 
technogremlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 2,516
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by scruffy View Post
It appears the original post that is supposedly updated regularly hasn't been updated in over 4 years.

The very first recommended freeware 'oatmeal' is a dead link.

Are the recommendations made by the original poster still valid in 2019?

I'm new to Reaper and the entire music scene... so learning a lot right now. Thanks for any thoughts!
I have been away from the forum (and my own studio) for quite a while because of some serious (but great) things happening in my life. Now slowly getting back into making music and just now back to visiting the forum somewhat regularly.

I'm planning a complete overhaul of the actual list. Will be focusing on 64bit plugins as that is where everything is moving tmo. I'll keep a 'honorable mentions' section for the truly great and legendary 32bit plugins (if they are still available).

It's good to be back
technogremlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 10:36 PM   #2111
lucas_LCS
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 629
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by technogremlin1
I have been away from the forum (and my own studio) for quite a while because of some serious (but great) things happening in my life. Now slowly getting back into making music and just now back to visiting the forum somewhat regularly.
...It's good to be back
Welcome back!

Quote:
Originally Posted by technogremlin1
I'm planning a complete overhaul of the actual list. Will be focusing on 64bit plugins as that is where everything is moving tmo. I'll keep a 'honorable mentions' section for the truly great and legendary 32bit plugins (if they are still available).
It's up to you, of course, but I suggest making a new thread for just the 64bit plugins and leave this one intact with a note on the first post pointing to the new 64bit thread.

.
lucas_LCS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 10:47 PM   #2112
SmajjL
Human being with feelings
 
SmajjL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,951
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by technogremlin View Post

It's good to be back
Holy cheese! welcome back!
__________________
:)
SmajjL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 10:54 PM   #2113
technogremlin
Human being with feelings
 
technogremlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 2,516
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lucas_LCS View Post
Welcome back!

It's up to you, of course, but I suggest making a new thread for just the 64bit plugins and leave this one intact with a note on the first post pointing to the new 64bit thread.

.
Thanks for the welcome back Lucas

The thing is that this thread is linked from many places on the web (other forums, etc.) and the list is pretty much out of sync with the current state of affairs in VST land (as scruffy mentioned). So it needs an update anyway and I'm sure that many plugins are no longer available and/or suffer from compatibility issues with current reaper versions, as I have encountered already myself while bringing my own reaper setup back up to spec.

There's also the fact that this is already a sticky so it's the first one people stumble upon when searching for this stuff. However, I might go the other way around from your suggestion and create a new satellite thread to keep the old list available.

It might be a few weeks before I actually get at it, so suggestions and opinions are welcome for me to ponder
technogremlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 12:31 AM   #2114
Sambo Rouge
Human being with feelings
 
Sambo Rouge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Hertfordshire, England
Posts: 1,860
Default

Welcome back Gremlin

Yes, please keep the thread as is with an addendum or whatever.

For us antiques who still run 32 bit, it will give us some breathing space while we save up for new machines.

By the way, almost all of my countless vst's still run smoothly on the latest iteration of windows 10.

Many thanks for all of your hard work in the past.

Regards

SR
__________________
99% is shit
Sambo Rouge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 12:32 AM   #2115
ivansc
Human being with feelings
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
Posts: 18,785
Default

My hero is back! Big happy smile this morning.
__________________
Brexit Schmexit. Lets have a violent revolution instead. Bagsy the first go with a nuke! (Here, Moggy Moggy...)
ivansc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 05:35 AM   #2116
JHughes
Human being with feelings
 
JHughes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Too close to Charlotte, NC
Posts: 3,355
Default

Yay, welcome back technogremlin!
__________________
You can only Reverse, Switch, Invert or Flip POLARITY, not "PHASE".
JHughes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 11:55 AM   #2117
technogremlin
Human being with feelings
 
technogremlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 2,516
Default

Thanks for the warm welcome back guys, it brought a big smile on my face

OK, I took a good look at the current list and it appears to me a lot of stuff there is already available as 64bit versions. So I'll keep the list as it is but I will of course update as much as possible and put plugins that are ONLY 32bit as a separate item under each section.

It will be quite some work so it will be done in small steps. I'll post updates here as I work through it.
technogremlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 01:16 PM   #2118
bladerunner
Human being with feelings
 
bladerunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kent, UK
Posts: 4,682
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by morgon View Post
Here's hoping you're recovering ok from your accident mate, cheers.
Hey Morgon, I'm doing good thanks, thanks for asking Back working and back cycling (it happened while cycling as you might remember) and back posting in the lounge (is that a good thing???). It's been just over 18 months now.. I'm left with some permanent restrictions to my right arms mobility and of course my hand still has little function but it's my 'normal' now and thankfully it doesn't really stop me doing anything - just some things I'm a bit slower/awkward at. All in all though I'm doing good and just thankful it wasn't worse.
bladerunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.