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03-08-2019, 02:50 AM
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#41
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Right, it's MIDI editor ruler background that is shared with CC lane color...
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03-08-2019, 03:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dtr0q
Sure I can, but contrasted outline would be better solution than tweaking default theme.
Also, AFAIK there's no separate option for CC lane color.
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I made an FR a while back relating to this with detailed mockup images.
FR: MIDI Editor: Improved Note & Vel. Graphics:
https://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=3529
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03-08-2019, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Edgemeal
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No, this is too good to be true !
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03-08-2019, 03:36 AM
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#44
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Join Date: Oct 2017
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At the program and bank select ms envelopes i get this weird behaviour when i draw an envelope, drag the selected points and then click somewhere else.
https://gifyu.com/image/3EXG
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03-08-2019, 04:16 AM
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#45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
v5.972+dev0307 - March 7 2019
+ MIDI editor: display CC events as envelopes
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1. Can't create points in one line
https://streamable.com/ra13h
2. Can't create straight line decrease (two points in one vertical line)
https://streamable.com/8q0it
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03-08-2019, 05:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilDragon
It's really as simple as doing this to repro it:
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Ah, I think there's a time selection, that what what I wasn't getting.
... or, sorry, no there's not, but the code thinks there is, I think that's the bug. Fixing, anyway.
Last edited by schwa; 03-08-2019 at 05:39 AM.
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03-08-2019, 05:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
+ MIDI editor: display CC events as envelopes
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Wow! Overlapping, multi-channel or multi-track curves are not hidden behind each other any more, and are very easy to distinguish in color-by-channel or color-by-track mode.
However, when CCs are drawn at high density, it becomes impossible to distinguish selected events.
Color-by-track gives different colors to different tracks, but doesn't seem to follow track color anymore.
Most CC lane mouse modifier actions don't seem to work any more. Will CC lanes and automation lanes use the same mouse modifiers from now on?
How is the new shape data stored, and how can scripts access it? EDIT: I would suggest that the shapes can be stored in the "flags" byte of each CC event. This way, the new formats can most easily be incorporated in existing scripts. EDIT 2: Hmmm.. Bézier tension will not fit into the flags byte, unfortunately.
Last edited by juliansader; 03-08-2019 at 10:52 AM.
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03-08-2019, 06:16 AM
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#48
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Originally Posted by musicbynumbers
Please think about implementing 2nd pass rendering at some point (so that reaper loops the audio once round first before rendering to disk.
This way not only do reverbs get properly baked into the file but it also means that minimal phase effects like eq also don't cause glitches then.
Currently we have to render these files to a secondary project project (with audio either side of the wanted area) and then cut and render again.
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It's high on my priority list for the next dev-cycle of my Ultraschall-API, which will be focused on rendering.
It will do the same you do by hand, but will do it automatically instead.
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03-08-2019, 06:39 AM
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#49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Please note that this feature is extremely alpha and will require lots of rounds of testing and fixing!
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this has my attention. i promise i'll be easier to please than i was during the first (or was it second?) round of AI improvements.
so far it looks and handles well. thank you for implementing it. i'll be using this a lot, and will likely be forgoing my clunky use of reacontrolmidi to pump envelope-generated CCs into my midi tracks. i was doing this just to use envelope mouse modifiers, which were far easier to edit than CCs.
regarding CC lane -- one glaring user experience issue is the lack of a left click mouse modifier for the CC lane, the way there is for the note lane. when clicking around the CC lane, i expect the edit cursor to move to the nearest clicked grid division, so that i can play/preview from it quickly.
though this occurs in the note lanes, this doesn't occur in the CC lane, making the editing experience uncomfortably different from that of editing notes.
more later, i'll try to break this...
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03-08-2019, 06:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Ah, I think there's a time selection, that what what I wasn't getting.
... or, sorry, no there's not, but the code thinks there is, I think that's the bug. Fixing, anyway.
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Thanks!
By the way, I really think that program change/bank select lanes should NOT be envelopes...
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03-08-2019, 10:11 AM
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#51
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Originally Posted by dtr0q
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Great update!
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It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Corinthians 13:4-6
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03-08-2019, 10:20 AM
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These bugs were there long ago with bars also. To reproduce:
- Create item for example 24 bars.
- Fill item 16th notes.
- Zoom out a bit.
- Try to edit velocity.
Result bugs:
- High density of events causing skipping some events from edit.
- Few, last events can't be edited depending on zoom.
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It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Corinthians 13:4-6
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03-08-2019, 12:08 PM
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#53
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@Devs, I hate requests in pre-release as much as you do, apologizes, but while your working on CC area please consider increasing the dropdown width of the CC combobox so we can see all the text.
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=115502
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03-09-2019, 01:22 AM
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#54
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Originally Posted by strachupl
Great update! |
Colormaps do not have effect in track coloring mode.
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03-09-2019, 05:25 AM
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+ ARA: support preview audio while editing ARA per-take FX
Noticed that this feature only works until you start/stop playback. If you edit an item with Melodyne as a per take FX then start playback, the feature no longer works after you stop playback and try to edit again.
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03-09-2019, 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgemeal
@Devs, I hate requests in pre-release as much as you do, apologizes, but while your working on CC area please consider increasing the dropdown width of the CC combobox so we can see all the text.
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+1, but actually, right click on that CC lane border (the one you drag to resize) gives access to much better organized lanes menu, same as in inline editor.
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03-09-2019, 09:35 AM
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#57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dtr0q
+1, but actually, right click on that CC lane border (the one you drag to resize) gives access to much better organized lanes menu, same as in inline editor.
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I didn't know that, thanks)
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03-09-2019, 04:16 PM
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#58
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+ ARA: support preview audio while editing ARA per-take FX
Ignore my post.....you have to have Melodyne in Clip mode vs. track mode and this new feature works as expected.....great addition!
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03-24-2019, 10:47 AM
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#59
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Is there any way to download this earlier pre-release build? I can only find the latest build and I'd like to play around with the CC lane envelopes...
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03-24-2019, 12:08 PM
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#60
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03-24-2019, 12:23 PM
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#61
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Thanks!
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