Linux NATIVE

[4duhwinnn]

92.5 % here, but my musicianship is only 82%,
so the label matters less to me than the availabilty!
Cheers

[Jack Winter]

@osxmidi: Think I found a bug

I build with Makefile-embed, open the fx window and add an fx (displayed inside of the fx window). Then if I click on the fx name to make it a floating window, I get the following:

fixme:x11drv:X11DRV_DestroyNotify window 0x1004a/b600001 destroyed from the outside
X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
Major opcode of failed request: 18 (X_ChangeProperty)
Resource id in failed request: 0x0
Serial number of failed request: 89
Current serial number in output stream: 142
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'RemotePluginClosedException'
terminate called recursively

[osxmidi]

Originally Posted by Jack Winter

@osxmidi: Think I found a bug

I build with Makefile-embed, open the fx window and add an fx (displayed inside of the fx window). Then if I click on the fx name to make it a floating window, I get the following:

fixme:x11drv:X11DRV_DestroyNotify window 0x1004a/b600001 destroyed from the outside
X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
Major opcode of failed request: 18 (X_ChangeProperty)
Resource id in failed request: 0x0
Serial number of failed request: 89
Current serial number in output stream: 142
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'RemotePluginClosedException'
terminate called recursively

Is that a floating window in Reaper?

That might be something that is due to Wine.

Wines embedding is pretty shaky IMO and the wine devs need to do a makeover on IMO it because XEMBED and Wine are pretty strange when used together and the Airwave dev had trouble with using XEMBED with wine as well.

The wine embedding works for a basic window but doing fancy things like floating might be too much for it.

I don't know too much about it, but from the error it seems like Reaper changes something about the X11 window and Wine can't handle it which sets LinVst in a spin.

[osxmidi]

I did a quick port of the Scorchcrafter amp sim to Linux.

The author was going to do a Linux and Mac version (with the GUI) but didn't seem to get around to it.

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=72361

It's a GUIless version, but the presets and controls work ok.

Seems to be ok.

scorchcrafter.so.zip at https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/bl...crafter.so.zip

Some demos at https://sourceforge.net/projects/sco...Video%20Demos/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/sco...Audio%20Demos/

[4duhwinnn]

That's a bit like Babe Ruth saying, 'the pitcher was getting tired,
so I thought I'd launch one into the right field bleachers,
so a fan could have a nice souvenier'

Sounds great. I made a preset to embellish an Alesis Pedal-Steel sound,
sounds wild in either channel, with lots of range to play with.
Thanks again!

[clepsydrae]

Sorry if a bit OT, but: anyone know of a good free or cheap piano VSTi that runs in Linux (native or wine)?

I'm considering putting together a Reaper-on-Raspberry-Pi thing running a piano VSTi in it and triggering with a midi controller keyboard... basically so I can play piano gigs with a lightweight keyboard and a tiny box that makes the piano sound. :-) Not sure how realistic this is. E.g. how well midi would work into the Pi, if the Pi could handle a synth, etc. (And I could use a different host besides Reaper, I know; might be nice to record the midi, though.)

I see that Pianoteq runs on linux, but I'm hoping not to spend that kind of money. I can start down the list of cheap / free piano VSTs and see what works, but thought I would ask first.

Thanks for any ideas.

[4duhwinnn]

As an aside, I just intalled 'Native Access' from Native Instruments,
in my wine-staging, it's their newest product registration system,
and the installer feedback says it was installing
Visual Studio c++ as part of the deal.

Will test later for any obvious side effects, hopefully all positives.
Cheers

[eric71]

Originally Posted by clepsydrae

Sorry if a bit OT, but: anyone know of a good free or cheap piano VSTi that runs in Linux (native or wine)?

As far as native, there is MDA piano, which is small but can work well in the right mix.

Another free native option is something like Salamander Piano sfz loaded in Carla.

[clepsydrae]

Originally Posted by eric71

As far as native, there is MDA piano, which is small but can work well in the right mix.

Thanks, I've used MDA in windows, and appreciate it a lot, but was hoping for something better.

Another free native option is something like Salamander Piano sfz loaded in Carla.

Thanks, I'll check that out! Anyone have an idea if a Raspberry Pi (running from an SD card, recall) could handle a sampled piano?

(Non-free is OK too, I just don't want to spend $150...)

[eric71]

I recall a cut down version called Little Lizard Piano. I think it can still be found at bandshed.net

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by clepsydrae

Sorry if a bit OT, but: anyone know of a good free or cheap piano VSTi that runs in Linux (native or wine)?

Estate Grand LE for sforzando(oh, it's free) http://www.productionvoices.com/esta...ando-giveaway/

[4duhwinnn]

https://www.pianoteq.com/pianoteq5

These are modeled pianos and other chromatic instruments
and have had a linux version for ages,
and is a world class product.
There is also a useable demo, just missing a few notes.

Yes it's spendy, but you'll be set for ages, and also
be able to craft your piano sounds.
Cheers

[Garrick]

Also Addictive Keys works in wine

[osxmidi]

Originally Posted by Jack Winter

@osxmidi: Think I found a bug

I build with Makefile-embed, open the fx window and add an fx (displayed inside of the fx window). Then if I click on the fx name to make it a floating window, I get the following:

fixme:x11drv:X11DRV_DestroyNotify window 0x1004a/b600001 destroyed from the outside
X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
Major opcode of failed request: 18 (X_ChangeProperty)
Resource id in failed request: 0x0
Serial number of failed request: 89
Current serial number in output stream: 142
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'RemotePluginClosedException'
terminate called recursively

Seems like it's linked to a timing problem between the wine window and Reaper.

The usual embedded ui open/close seems fine and so are the floating windows set in the preferences, but double clicking the plugin name seems to result in Reaper rapidly closing the wine window and immediately opening another new window which is a different window open/close timing between the wine window and Reaper and it results in an error.

I've added some timing code fixes and it seems to be ok on my system but I can't guarantee it on others.

[Jack Winter]

Originally Posted by osxmidi

Seems like it's linked to a timing problem between the wine window and Reaper.

The usual embedded ui open/close seems fine and so are the floating windows set in the preferences, but double clicking the plugin name seems to result in Reaper rapidly closing the wine window and immediately opening another new window which is a different window open/close timing between the wine window and Reaper and it results in an error.

I've added some timing code fixes and it seems to be ok on my system but I can't guarantee it on others.

Thanks that appears to fix it, including several other related problems. I'll let you know how it works out.

[osxmidi]

Originally Posted by 4duhwinnn

That's a bit like Babe Ruth saying, 'the pitcher was getting tired,
so I thought I'd launch one into the right field bleachers,
so a fan could have a nice souvenier'

Sounds great. I made a preset to embellish an Alesis Pedal-Steel sound,
sounds wild in either channel, with lots of range to play with.
Thanks again!

Linux isn't exactly overflowing with native vst amp sims, so I looked around and found it and tried it on the Mac and I thought it sounded pretty good (to me anyway), so I ported it over with no GUI, maybe a GUI later on but I don't think it really needs a GUI.

There is also https://stash.reaper.fm/v/25099/Little%20Black%20Box.zip a Reaper JS plug but I havn't tried it.

[daverich]

Originally Posted by osxmidi

Linux isn't exactly overflowing with native vst amp sims, so I looked around and found it and tried it on the Mac and I thought it sounded pretty good (to me anyway), so I ported it over with no GUI, maybe a GUI later on but I don't think it really needs a GUI.

There is also https://stash.reaper.fm/v/25099/Little%20Black%20Box.zip a Reaper JS plug but I havn't tried it.

Voxengo boogex is free and works with wine very well (and sounds great)

[osxmidi]

Originally Posted by daverich

Voxengo boogex is free and works with wine very well (and sounds great)

Yes it does.

Linux native vst amp sims are pretty rare though.

Guitarix doesn't do vst.

There are some Linux native synth vst's (u-he, obxd etc) and drumgizmo and some effects (EQ's etc), but no Linux vst amp sims that I know of.

http://linux-sound.org/linux-vst-plugins.html

http://linux-vst.blogspot.com.au/p/vst-plugins.html

[osxmidi]

I got a Linux native vst overdrive happening.

No GUI, but the parameter sliders and presets are pretty obvious in what they do.

Some cabs http://flos-audio-plugins.eu/

Amp Sim

https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/bl...crafter.so.zip

Overdrive

https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/bl...gestomp.so.zip

[Justin]

Just posted a new build, 5.50rc2b. This one has some improvements to how libSwell.so is linked with GDK/freetype, the end result being that it should work without needing to build libSwell.so on a larger variety of systems (Debian 8 or 9, Ubuntu 12.04 through 17.04, probably other distributions that used to fail with libpng errors etc).

[clepsydrae]

Great, thanks Justin!

[swindus]

Thanks!

[avoca]

Thanks Justin.
It works here

[4duhwinnn]

Originally Posted by Justin

Just posted a new build, 5.50rc2b. This one has some improvements to how libSwell.so is linked with GDK/freetype, the end result being that it should work without needing to build libSwell.so on a larger variety of systems (Debian 8 or 9, Ubuntu 12.04 through 17.04, probably other distributions that used to fail with libpng errors etc).

The .5413 and earlier releases are fine, but with this .550rc2, I get:

$ /home/me/.550-reaper/reaper5 /home/me/.550-reaper/reaper5: symbol lookup error: /home/me/.550-reaper/libSwell.so: undefined symbol: gdk_set_allowed_backends


Mint 18, i7, nvidia graphics card

Is there a commandline option to help?
Cheers

[4duhwinnn]

Originally Posted by osxmidi

I got a Linux native vst overdrive happening.

No GUI, but the parameter sliders and presets are pretty obvious in what they do.

Some cabs http://flos-audio-plugins.eu/

Amp Sim

https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/bl...crafter.so.zip

Overdrive

https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst/bl...gestomp.so.zip

Thanks for the new stomp, works as advertised. I made a chain
using the guitarix dev's lv2 gx_ampegsvt bass amp (hosted in Carla-Rack vst),
Poulin LeCab 1.0c, and TAL reverb. Very nice!

The reaper scan listed ragestomp as SC 64 RageStomp,
so I missed it in the alphabetized list for awhile.
Lucky for me S is close to R, and I already had
the Scorch-Crafter amp-sim, and noticed the second entry.
Maybe future street-names and the tech-name can be unified?

I also tried the Little Black Box distortion, pretty shocking
how many parameters can be presented from an 11K archive!
Quite a nice tool for the more cerebral metalmanics out there!
Cheers

[clepsydrae]

Works great for me with vanilla download on Kubuntu 16.10, no custom libSwell required!

[swindus]

Installed Void Linux and I get the following error when starting Reaper:
reaper: symbol lookup error: ../libSwell.so undefined symbol: gtk_set_allowed_backends

Anybody knows whats missing on my system? Thanks!

edit: After installing GTK+3 dev files it works.

[4duhwinnn]

Thanks for the tip adding gtk+3 dev files, that also fixed things
for me, as I had the same error. Now I have SynthMaster and zynaddsubfx,
instead of the blues...
Cheers

[Finnish]

Originally Posted by 4duhwinnn

Thanks for the tip adding gtk+3 dev files, that also fixed things
for me, as I had the same error. Now I have SynthMaster and zynaddsubfx,
instead of the blues...
Cheers

What version of zynaddsubfx, linux vst, self-compiled, free, paid, etc..? I tried to compile the latest from source code in ubuntu 16.04 but I'm quite noob with compiling and other hc-stuff..

[4duhwinnn]

Synaptic shows it as zynaddsubfx 2:3.0.1-1kxstudio2

Mint 18 enlightenment21 nvidia graphics card

Cheers

edit
I also could add zyn to an instance of the Carla-rack plugin

[Finnish]

Originally Posted by 4duhwinnn

Synaptic shows it as zynaddsubfx 2:3.0.1-1kxstudio2

Mint 18 enlightenment21 nvidia graphics card

Cheers

edit
I also could add zyn to an instance of the Carla-rack plugin

Thanks. So it's not a native linux vst/so?

[David Else]

@osxmidi Is there a way i could use LinVST to run audio files through Windows VST plugins on the linux command line?

I would ideally like to be able to do something like:

linvst [source.wav] [dest.wav] pluginname.so pluginpresetname

or something like that.

My goal is to provide audio processing services in an automated way over the internet. I am aware of SoX, but that does not do what i envisage. Also the new web audio standard looks to be the future,

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/.../Web_Audio_API

but it will take years to catch up the sound quality of well known VSTs. You can only use Javascript for direct processing at the moment, and that is beta test.

Any ideas would be very gratefully received

[Jack Winter]

Originally Posted by David Else

@osxmidi Is there a way i could use LinVST to run audio files through Windows VST plugins on the linux command line?

I would ideally like to be able to do something like:

linvst [source.wav] [dest.wav] pluginname.so pluginpresetname

or something like that.

My goal is to provide audio processing services in an automated way over the internet. I am aware of SoX, but that does not do what i envisage. Also the new web audio standard looks to be the future,

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/.../Web_Audio_API

but it will take years to catch up the sound quality of well known VSTs. You can only use Javascript for direct processing at the moment, and that is beta test.

Any ideas would be very gratefully received

Have a look at the reaper5 command line (run with --help). It can process files through fx chains.

[David Else]

Originally Posted by Jack Winter

Have a look at the reaper5 command line (run with --help). It can process files through fx chains.

brilliant! can't find much info on this awesomeness, if you have any examples or experience to share please do.

i am quite new to web development, but learning fast. my idea is now to have reaper with linvst on a linux server so i can upload files and have them processed through selected fxchains.

i will obviously have to spent some time playing around with the reaper command line. i am hoping it will accept flac input and output, but don't see that option in the --help.

cheers.

[Jack Winter]

Originally Posted by David Else

brilliant! can't find much info on this awesomeness, if you have any examples or experience to share please do.

i will obviously have to spent some time playing around with the reaper command line. i am hoping it will accept flac input and output, but don't see that option in the --help.

cheers.

Sorry, I've never used it, just know that it's possible.

I'd suspect that if you make the output file filename.flac it'd be rendered as flac, but not sure at all. Please let me know what you find out.

Edit: But if it only does wav, you could always add a ffmpeg statement afterwards to convert the output to whatever audio format you'd like.

[Justin]

Originally Posted by swindus

Installed Void Linux and I get the following error when starting Reaper:
reaper: symbol lookup error: ../libSwell.so undefined symbol: gtk_set_allowed_backends

Anybody knows whats missing on my system? Thanks!

edit: After installing GTK+3 dev files it works.

Thanks, fixing for 5.50rc2c.

[osxmidi]

Originally Posted by David Else

@osxmidi Is there a way i could use LinVST to run audio files through Windows VST plugins on the linux command line?

I would ideally like to be able to do something like:

linvst [source.wav] [dest.wav] pluginname.so pluginpresetname

or something like that.

My goal is to provide audio processing services in an automated way over the internet. I am aware of SoX, but that does not do what i envisage. Also the new web audio standard looks to be the future,

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/.../Web_Audio_API

but it will take years to catch up the sound quality of well known VSTs. You can only use Javascript for direct processing at the moment, and that is beta test.

Any ideas would be very gratefully received

I'm not sure about that.

Jack's idea sounds pretty good to me.

[osxmidi]

Originally Posted by 4duhwinnn

Thanks for the new stomp, works as advertised. I made a chain
using the guitarix dev's lv2 gx_ampegsvt bass amp (hosted in Carla-Rack vst),
Poulin LeCab 1.0c, and TAL reverb. Very nice!

The reaper scan listed ragestomp as SC 64 RageStomp,
so I missed it in the alphabetized list for awhile.
Lucky for me S is close to R, and I already had
the Scorch-Crafter amp-sim, and noticed the second entry.
Maybe future street-names and the tech-name can be unified?

I also tried the Little Black Box distortion, pretty shocking
how many parameters can be presented from an 11K archive!
Quite a nice tool for the more cerebral metalmanics out there!
Cheers

I've ported the Scorchcrafter GUI over (not my GUI design btw).

It looks about the same on Windows, maybe a bit fugly but functional.

The 9 Amp Channels are different tube stage configurations.

// Channels 1, 2, 3
// Uses 2 simulated tube overdrive passes
// Clean and low gain / crunch

// Channels 4, 5, 6
// Uses 3 simulated tube overdrive passes
// Mid-range gain, moderate overdrive

// Channels 7, 8, 9
// Uses 4 simulated tube overdrive passes
// High-gain overdrive


I suppose the amp sim could be compared to LePou or Nick Crow amp sims in some ways.

Getting Windows/Mac VstGui code ported to Linux is not straightforward as Linux doesn't have VstGui included in the Vst 2.4 sdk but they have done Linux VstGui for the newer Vst3 sdk.

Juce is an option but I didn't want to use it so I did the GUI with Distrho which I needed to mod a bit, and Distrho also produces lv2 and I think dssi versions as well as the vst version, very interesting.

There aren't that many windows vst's with their code available for porting to Linux anyway.

This amp sim vst is the only amp sim I've seen that is capable of being ported to Linux (Linux native vst).

[KingNothing]

Originally Posted by David Else

brilliant! can't find much info on this awesomeness, if you have any examples or experience to share please do.

i am quite new to web development, but learning fast. my idea is now to have reaper with linvst on a linux server so i can upload files and have them processed through selected fxchains.

i will obviously have to spent some time playing around with the reaper command line. i am hoping it will accept flac input and output, but don't see that option in the --help.

cheers.

Some notes on batchconvert, if you intend to use that option. Im not sure if it fits you use case, but thats all I have documented so far.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0d...2551ec48d480a4

[David Else]

Originally Posted by KingNothing

Some notes on batchconvert, if you intend to use that option. Im not sure if it fits you use case, but thats all I have documented so far.

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0d...2551ec48d480a4

thanks for your help.

jack, good idea about FFMPEG, thanks too