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Old Yesterday, 06:51 PM   #25761
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Next I want to propose that we replace that crazy busy Edit Param dialog with one that represents only the double clicked cell.

Instead of the 2 or 3 groups that we previously had, only one group will be shown, the one you double clicked on.

That means that on that dialog we'll have space for what was previously on the Advanced dialog.

Unless anyone screams, that's up next
This sounds great to me.

Only use the Mac with the SCE-24 and far from daily but I'll give it a go over the weekend. I'll need to make updates to the surface files to get it going on the EXP builds.
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Old Yesterday, 07:55 PM   #25762
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Hey MixMonkey, FunkyBot,

I am assuming one of is the keeper of the CSI support files / wiki

I have attached the config files for the X32series/Midas32Series

It must use the CSI exp build until exp is finally released

Inside the zip there is a file "SetupNotes.txt" that explains how to configure CSI for use with the X32

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That works for me

Tested and working
Thanks, pushed a commit.
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Wow, the red highlighting as you move a control points out something obvious.

The vast majority of surfaces are laid out left to right.

The ReMap/Learn window is off by 90 degrees

Will redesign it...
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Thanks for taking the leap.

Lots of work to do with colours, sizing, etc., but we're in flight

Next I want to propose that we replace that crazy busy Edit Param dialog with one that represents only the double clicked cell.

Instead of the 2 or 3 groups that we previously had, only one group will be shown, the one you double clicked on.

That means that on that dialog we'll have space for what was previously on the Advanced dialog.

Unless anyone screams, that's up next
That sounds good, quick and easy re-name a priority, closely followed by step number
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Wow, the red highlighting as you move a control points out something obvious.

The vast majority of surfaces are laid out left to right.

The ReMap/Learn window is off by 90 degrees

Will redesign it...
In some ways the flat list is better because it is universal. Yes, most surfaces are 8 cells wide, but what things like the MFT?

Also, thanks to your nifty auto-select/auto-scroll, visual orientation for the user is redundant as they don't need to search the list for the relevant control.
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In some ways the flat list is better because it is universal. Yes, most surfaces are 8 cells wide, but what things like the MFT?

Also, thanks to your nifty auto-select/auto-scroll, visual orientation for the user is redundant as they don't need to search the list for the relevant control.
Well, the MFT can be thought of as 4 rows of 4, so it's still a horizontal layout, it's kind of ambidextrous that way
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Old Today, 11:20 AM   #25768
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Going to change the FXLayouts Zone from this:

Code:
Zone FXLayouts
	"" "" 8
	"Shift" "" 8
	"Control" "" 8
	"Option" "" 8
ZoneEnd
to this:

Code:
Zone FXLayouts
	Channels 8
	"" ""
	"Shift" ""
	"Control" ""
	"Option" ""
ZoneEnd
There is a very slight restriction introduced -- you now can't have a different number of controls mapped to, say, the Shift and Control modifiers.

Don't think anyone does that anyway.

The upside of a specific number of Channels being assigned to the FX Layout means it will be easier to do maps that span surfaces down the road.

Playing with this new format -- it is far more readable, and indeed, more compact.

Instead of this:

Code:
1  Rotary Meter      Push NoAction  Fader NoAction
2  Rotary Input      Push NoAction  Fader NoAction
3  Rotary Thresh     Push NoAction  Fader NoAction
4  Rotary Time Const Push NoAction  Fader NoAction
5  Rotary SC Filt    Push NoAction  Fader NoAction
6  Rotary Bal        Push NoAction  Fader NoAction
7  Rotary DC Thr     Push NoAction  Fader NoAction
8  Rotary Output     Push NoAction  Fader NoAction
you get this:

Code:
             1     2      3       4         5     6     7     8
Rotary     Meter Input Thresh Time Const SC Filt Bal  DC Thr Output
RotaryPush None  None   None    None       None  None  None   None
Fader      None  None   None    None       None  None  None   None
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What's that going to look like on C4-style (Twister, SCE-24) with multiple rows and cells (A1-A8, B1-B8, C1-C8, etc.)? Like this?

Code:
             1     2      3       4         5     6     7     8
RotaryA     Meter Input Thresh Time Const SC Filt Bal  DC Thr Output
RotaryPushA None  None   None    None       None  None  None   None

RotaryB     Meter Input Thresh Time Const SC Filt Bal  DC Thr Output [ignore the copy/pasted names]
RotaryPushB None  None   None    None       None  None  None   None

RotaryC     Meter Input Thresh Time Const SC Filt Bal  DC Thr Output [ignore the copy/pasted names]
RotaryPushC None  None   None    None       None  None  None   None
Or a 16 fader surface like the Presonus one? Might get weird if there's a lot of horizontal scrolling.
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What's that going to look like on C4-style (Twister, SCE-24) with multiple rows and cells (A1-A8, B1-B8, C1-C8, etc.)? Like this?

Code:
             1     2      3       4         5     6     7     8
RotaryA     Meter Input Thresh Time Const SC Filt Bal  DC Thr Output
RotaryPushA None  None   None    None       None  None  None   None

RotaryB     Meter Input Thresh Time Const SC Filt Bal  DC Thr Output [ignore the copy/pasted names]
RotaryPushB None  None   None    None       None  None  None   None

RotaryC     Meter Input Thresh Time Const SC Filt Bal  DC Thr Output [ignore the copy/pasted names]
RotaryPushC None  None   None    None       None  None  None   None
Or a 16 fader surface like the Presonus one? Might get weird if there's a lot of horizontal scrolling.
Exactly, and there will be rows for the modified functions, a la:

Code:
Shift+RotaryC     Meter Input Thresh Time Const SC Filt Bal  DC Thr Output
Shift+RotaryPushC None  None   None    None       None  None  None   None
As far as vertical and horizontal scrolling, not an issue unless your screen is tiny, the new Learn window will be sizeable, as will the columns.
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I don't really understand what this is all about, but I find the new version more difficult to read.

Does it mean that old "AutoMapped" plug-ins won't work anymore because of the new FXLayouts zone syntax ?
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Nice! I'm looking forward to trying it all out.
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I don't really understand what this is all about, but I find the new version more difficult to read.

Well, yes, that's because this is a crude approximation, it will look much better with the real ListView control.

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Does it mean that old "AutoMapped" plug-ins won't work anymore because of the new FXLayouts zone syntax ?
You will only have to change your FXLayouts zone and everything will work just fine.
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