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Old 11-02-2017, 07:45 PM   #1
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I absolutely love the new more_me.html web browser interface. This is genius! Clients absolutely love it. They are blown away that they can just navigate to a web page and control their own mix.

I have just one feature request. Could you limit the hardware send fader at the top so that it cannot go above 0db? Or better yet, is there a way to remove that fader?

A problem I'm having is that clients now have the ability to overload and clip their outputs. Being able to go to +12db output is fine for us audio pros. Trying to explain why they cannot turn up all their individual faders plus their hardware send master fader to +12 is a loosing battle for me. I keep getting comments like: "Something is broken here. My mix is totally distorted."

I keep explaining digital hardware output limitations, clipping, etc. Would be much easier if I could just disable that master hardware send, or at least limit it's max range to 0db, then put limiters on each send, so they don't clip outputs.

Again, love this new feature! It's amazing.
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Old 11-02-2017, 10:13 PM   #2
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I see that there is an html file in my reaper folders. Can I edit this to remove the big hardware send fader, or to restrict it's max level to be 0db?

Also, would love pans for each channel.

I really know nothing about editing html.
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I think I found the line in the code using ctrl+shift+I in chrome, but can't figure out how to delete that line and make it still work.
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Note, that this is what I'd like to get rid of, or at the very least, limit to 0db with the fader at full, keeping musicians from turning it up to +12db on the hardware send.



This mod, and a limiter on their send channel, will keep musicians from clipping their outputs.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:10 AM   #5
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concerning volume : you can use an automation curve here and nail the hardware output send volume in the monitortracks to 0dB. (put the curve (it's a line indeed) in read(play) mode)
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:08 AM   #6
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That's a good temp fix. Still hoping to somehow hack the html file, or find someone who knows how to remove or change this properly.
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:46 AM   #7
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not too difficult for the vol-fader

you have to disable the possibility to move the faderknob

i put a code into the stash
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/32060/more_me_edt.zip
save content as more_me_edt.html and put it into the folder
reaper_www_root in your 'REAPER resource path'.
Create it if it's not there

set the web browser interface to the more_me_edt

the fader is shown but it's not possible to move it
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:20 AM   #8
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Cool! Thanks for this. Downloaded, and will try it out when I get back into the studio.


BTW, what's the easiest way to edit a html file on windows 10? Would like to start poking around with the web interface.
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Glad you're finding it useful!

Here's an edit where all the controls are limited to maximum 0dB. You can still set them higher within REAPER, but they'll need to ask you to do it I've also hidden the output fader.

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BTW, what's the easiest way to edit a html file on windows 10? Would like to start poking around with the web interface.
I like notepad++, but whatever flavour of text editor suits you will be fine.

Here's a first task for you: I've made a variable in the above file to control the fader hiding, its on line 61:

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var showFader = 0;
change that to 1 to bring the fader back (which I suspect you'll want, because its also limited to 0dB now).
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Cool! Thanks for this. Downloaded, and will try it out when I get back into the studio.


BTW, what's the easiest way to edit a html file on windows 10? Would like to start poking around with the web interface.
it is not a question of win10 or os .

take an text editor and try your best on the html-code.

i use the windows editor, sometimes Notepad++ or PSPAD ,..

i'm afraid the REAPER-html is not for beginners . so make
copies before editing something (that is a recommendation
in itself for everybody)
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Glad you're finding it useful!
cool stuff

Is there a chance to get the PAN in the web interface
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Is there a chance to get the PAN in the web interface
Not from me, I don't think. I believe the feature set is about as complex as it should be as it stands. That's not to say someone else couldn't plumb it in using the panning bits from fancier.

If you're using SWS cue bus generator, your pans get replicated when the bus is made, my feeling is that's about right for a starting monitor mix.
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hmm .. never noticed bits of parameter in fancier.. or basic.. or whereever

maybe i need glasses

update:
found some panorama stuff in basic and index
and i must admit to be too moronic

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So cool White Tie and bobobo!

Downloaded both of these. Also downloaded Notepad++ and look forward to opening these files up and taking a look at the code.

Thank you both for these. I can see recording sessions going a lot smoother. No more musicians complaining about crackling because of their lack of understanding of sending too hot a signal out the bus.
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hmm .. never noticed bits of parameter in fancier.. maybe i need glasses
Well, not on the basis of this you don't; I'd forgotten that I'd taken it out. Ooops and sorry!
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