Reaper 5 support or non-support

sickamorz · 03-19-2018, 12:46 AM

After version 6 arrival, how long will version 5 be supported.

EvilDragon · 03-19-2018, 12:53 AM

How do you mean "supported"?

G-Sun · 03-19-2018, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sickamorz

After version 6 arrival, how long will version 5 be supported.

There is almost no history of Cockos making updates to v.N when they've released a v.N+1.

So, practically speaking v.6 will be the support of v.5.

sickamorz · 03-19-2018, 01:35 AM

With each revision of reaper it is getting slower and slower. Since as you say no support for v5 I doubt u will upgrade at the end of my license which is with version 6.

And the issues with win 10 make it all the more reason not to go on to the next version.

G-Sun · 03-19-2018, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sickamorz

With each revision of reaper it is getting slower and slower. Since as you say no support for v5 I doubt u will upgrade at the end of my license which is with version 6.

And the issues with win 10 make it all the more reason not to go on to the next version.

Well, you don't have to update.
Personally I've seen no issues

EvilDragon · 03-19-2018, 06:04 AM

Yeah, it's not getting slower and slower over here. At all.

Softsynth · 03-19-2018, 06:13 AM

Getting slower?
I don't recognize that at all. I'm not using a SOTA machine, just a five year old quad core i7 CPU.

Maybe the OP's hard drive is getting too full?
PC old or in dire need of service?
Or maybe he is getting more CPU hungry updates on his VST instruments?
Or maybe the PC is horridly old and crusty and slowing down during Windows updates?
Maybe his projects are getting more ambitious with more tracks?

Plenty of reasons you might be fooled into believing your DAW has become less efficient. Sometimes Windows updates reset settings, that can mess with efficiency.

sickamorz · 03-19-2018, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Softsynth

Getting slower?
I don't recognize that at all. I'm not using a SOTA machine, just a five year old quad core i7 CPU.

Maybe the OP's hard drive is getting too full?
PC old or in dire need of service?
Or maybe he is getting more CPU hungry updates on his VST instruments?
Or maybe the PC is horridly old and crusty and slowing down during Windows updates?
Maybe his projects are getting more ambitious with more tracks?

Plenty of reasons you might be fooled into believing your DAW has become less efficient. Sometimes Windows updates reset settings, that can mess with efficiency.

With 12 tracks that have no content it has slowed down to the most simple tasks as respond to pressing the record button, there is an obvious delay after the install of 5.77

ivansc · 03-19-2018, 07:04 AM

If that is the case, there is something wrong with your setup somewhere.
Yours is the very first complaint I have seen on here aboutreaper slowing down.

Maybe post your full setup, including cpu spec, amount of ram and gfx card, plus obviously your audio/MIDI interface.
There are plenty of people on here willing to help you figure out what is wrong.

sickamorz · 03-19-2018, 05:55 PM

I have my Reaper back to working in an acceptable manner, I installed 5.75 rather than 5.77.

Other than the response of 5.77 there seems to be a problem in it, if you don't turn on your io device it acts like it's there, of course anything connected or depends on it won't work. If you press the record button it starts going like it is working. In prior versions if you press record it would not function like it is working and that is how it should be without the io interface turned on.

Edgemeal · 03-19-2018, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sickamorz

Other than the response of 5.77 there seems to be a problem in it, if you don't turn on your io device it acts like it's there, of course anything connected or depends on it won't work. If you press the record button it starts going like it is working.

Not seeing that here, and see no degrading in performance either.

i7-3770 @ 4GHz / 16GB DDR3-1600
Behringer UMC204HD / ASIO / Behringer driver
Windows 7_x64 / Reaper 5.77_x64

sickamorz · 03-19-2018, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Edgemeal

Not seeing that here, and see no degrading in performance either.

i7-3770 @ 4GHz / 16GB DDR3-1600
Behringer UMC204HD / ASIO / Behringer driver
Windows 7_x64 / Reaper 5.77_x64

That is good it works for you.
But I will never go back to 5.77, if they come out with another update I will try that one.

Edgemeal · 03-19-2018, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sickamorz

That is good it works for you.
But I will never go back to 5.77, if they come out with another update I will try that one.

OK good luck, REAPER is updated about every two weeks.

Did you at least try a clean portable install of 5.77?

sickamorz · 03-19-2018, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Edgemeal

OK good luck, REAPER is updated about every two weeks.

Did you at least try a clean portable install of 5.77?

no, I hear people say that all the time.
By its self I'm not sure what it is going to show a person. Without all the other elements that make up the complete system it is not any good for anything.

solger · 03-20-2018, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sickamorz

no, I hear people say that all the time.
By its self I'm not sure what it is going to show a person. Without all the other elements that make up the complete system it is not any good for anything.

Making a clean portable install - without importing any of your customized configs - to a separate folder (side-by-side to your existing install) is a good and quick first option to check if there might be a general 'system' issue (in case the clean install behaves similar).

In addition you can use a portable install to narrow down if problems might be caused by something in your customized Reaper config (for instance by selecting and importing only one config category box at a time).

And there's also no harm in simply trying it out, in general

sickamorz · 03-20-2018, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by solger

Making a clean portable install - without importing any of your customized configs - to a separate folder (side-by-side to your existing install) is a good and quick first option to check if there might be a general 'system' issue (in case the clean install behaves similar).

In addition you can use a portable install to narrow down if problems might be caused by something in your customized Reaper config (for instance by selecting and importing only one config category box at a time).

And there's also no harm in simply trying it out, in general

I do have the basic setup done it starts but can't tell anything yet the theme has to be setup properly to be identical before adding the 100 custom items.
Not even sure I remember all the config items that are in the main setup.

It will take several days to complete the testing set up.

I'm assuming in the end it will be no different, after all this is on
Windows 10.

solger · 03-20-2018, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sickamorz

I do have the basic setup done it starts but can't tell anything yet the theme has to be setup properly to be identical before adding the 100 custom items.
Not even sure I remember all the config items that are in the main setup.

It will take several days to complete the testing set up.

As a first quick test you can of course export the whole config from your existing install. And import everything from the saved .ReaperConfigZip file into the clean portable install at once (this way you should have an identical Reaper setup).

General info about exporting/importing configs can be found here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB4C3njFxRg

sickamorz · 03-20-2018, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by richie43

Many many people (including me) use updated Reaper on Windows 10 with little to zero issues. I have never had a more reliable and stable setup, actually.
So you really owe it to yourself to try a clean portable installation and go from there.

I now have 5.77 installed with no problems. There were some items vst's installed on c

rograms and some left overs from a demo software for various instruments. Got rid of all that junk now it is working like it should.

sickamorz · 03-20-2018, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by richie43

Awesome!

it doesn't make any difference how good it is working, at some point microtrash will delete my stuff like they have done 4 times before. I don't use reaper that much any more because of win 10.

sickamorz · 03-20-2018, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by richie43

As I (and others) have said repeatedly.... Then I bet you have something messed up with your configuration. I have had stellar performance and stability with Reaper and a constantly updated (and connected to the internet 24/7) Windows 10. In fact, starting way back with XP, this is the best and most stable DAW system I have ever enjoyed and I use whatever the newest PRE-RELEASE is(and I make part of my living on this system).

Maybe dig deeper and ask more questions.....

the configuration is from them.

sickamorz · 03-20-2018, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by richie43

From who? Who is "then"?

I am saying that issues between Reaper and Windows is possibly from something buried deep in your specific Reaper configuration or even possibly a specific hardware issue. If this was an obvious compatibility problem I would guess that many others would have the similar problems.

everything is configured by win 10.
At this time the reaper install is by the reaper installer or under control of reaper like midi devices.

ivansc · 03-21-2018, 03:54 AM

sickamorz: at the risk of sounding rude, I have read your posts for a very long time and sadly I get the impression that your depth of knowledge on how computers and software actually work is the cause of most of your issues.
It wouldnt hurt to go back to square one and read the manual thoroughly, watch all those excellent videos and at the same time get a little more education on windows.
Frankly there is nothing wrong with Windows 10 that wasnt already an issue in earlier versions, plus nowadays Win10 is if anything far more reliable than its predecessors.
I am not making this up, it is easily verified by checking out the various IT forums.

Learn to use your tools properly and your work will be much less stressful.
And when it all comes down to it, it`s YOU who is in charge of what your computer software does, you just have to learn how.

sickamorz · 03-21-2018, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ivansc

sickamorz: at the risk of sounding rude, I have read your posts for a very long time and sadly I get the impression that your depth of knowledge on how computers and software actually work is the cause of most of your issues.
It wouldnt hurt to go back to square one and read the manual thoroughly, watch all those excellent videos and at the same time get a little more education on windows.
Frankly there is nothing wrong with Windows 10 that wasnt already an issue in earlier versions, plus nowadays Win10 is if anything far more reliable than its predecessors.
I am not making this up, it is easily verified by checking out the various IT forums.

Learn to use your tools properly and your work will be much less stressful.
And when it all comes down to it, it`s YOU who is in charge of what your computer software does, you just have to learn how.

the computer here is entirely been setup by Microsoft no drivers have been installed by me. What hasn't been by Microsoft is done by application installers. So part of your statement is assuming things that you have no knowledge of.

In general I hate win 10. I don't use win 10 except for reaper or Adobe cs6.

All my corresponding is done through my cell phone on a non Microsoft account.

ivansc · 03-21-2018, 07:46 AM

Can`t believe you are that relentlessly DUMB. Congratulations, you just increased my ignore list by 33.333 percent.

sickamorz · 03-22-2018, 01:27 PM

[QUOTE=ivansc;1969300]Can`t believe you are that relentlessly DUMB. Congratulations, you just increased my ignore list by 33.333 per

For all that think they know the settings for my computer cannot be wrong since the only settings are for boot device and external drives, anything else it is what it is.