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11-05-2018, 08:10 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Surrey, UK
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Regions and Re-arrangement
Just watching the videos in cm263 about arranging and Arrangement tracks.
We can do quite a bit in Reaper with regions in the Arranger - define, resize, move, delete, move with contents, copy with contents.
It would be handy to be able to to this in the Region/Marker Manager window too.
Along with "Duplicate region with contents" and "Delete Region and contents" in both contexts.
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11-05-2018, 08:54 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
Just watching the videos in cm263 about arranging and Arrangement tracks.
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For those who don't have a "copy" of the issue: some clues what DAW they use if not Reaper. Perhaps we can find some other vids to judge if we like the feature.
As far as I have understood its about coyping and moving content based on regions around in a much faster and convenient way tham with current actions and key bindings. Right?
Masi
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11-05-2018, 09:05 AM
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Logic, Cubase, Live, Studio One
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11-05-2018, 10:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkStar
Logic, Cubase, Live, Studio One
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Then we must have it too. Reaper must get the kitchen sink
Seriously, sounds interesting. Hopefully if implemented it will deal with items that overlap with the surrounding areas a bit. I'm thinking of stuff like clips with a pickup or a fade-in that starts a bit early.
Masi
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11-05-2018, 12:15 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near Cambridge UK and Near Questembert, France
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Sounds like what I used to use in Bars n PIpes Pro on my Amiga back in the 90s.
Would LOVE to see a properly-implemented version of this in Reaper, but my bet is that it will get watered down because people dont understand how a truly effective version of this workflow can help.
Fingers crossed but expecting to be doomed to disappointmenbt, as I was when I suggested a hybrid stave as well as the notation editor.
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11-06-2018, 04:41 AM
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Human being with feelings
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Go get cm263 - you get IK Multimedia's White 2A for free too (yes, you do need (to create) an IK Multimedia account and, yes, the 1 GB installer installs all the T-RackS 5 plug-ins).
If no: essentially, each Region contains its own clips so you could have Intro, Verse, Chorus, Bridge etc. Then you can re-arrange them, duplicate them, etc. The Region functionality is part-way there, just needs a bit more.
Here is the "Arranger track" in Cubase. Moving any of the track's containers moves all the clips vertically below it.
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Last edited by DarkStar; 11-06-2018 at 06:33 AM.
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11-06-2018, 10:53 AM
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^^^^
That's why I said "a bit more" - "Duplicate region with contents"
- "Delete Region and contents"
- And do all the functions in the Region/Marker Manager window too.
And, while I'm here, Actions for each function.
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11-06-2018, 02:11 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2015
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I expect to be able to move/copy regions together with their content in an easy way.
Masi
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11-06-2018, 03:37 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Just Ctrl-Drag the region to duplicate, no? I use this daily.
What would be super useful is a Region Render Playlist, so you can render out different arrangements of the song without chopping anything up.
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11-08-2018, 02:55 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Sep 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferropop
Just Ctrl-Drag the region to duplicate, no?
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Yes, but I didn't know of that one. Thanks for the tip.
Perhaps have copy and cut option in the region context menu would have given me a clue that this is possible. An option to duplicate the region would fit in there quite well. Or have it done with a custom action like "copy current region", "move cursor to end of current region", "paste region".
Anyway, the region slices any items at its borders when moved/copied. I would like to have an option where all (only selected?) items are kept in whole. I often have a some samples that start early or trail off outside the region. If I move/copy the region I expect that these items X-fade (audio) or overlap (MIDI). Same holds true for any AI on the tracks.
Masi
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11-08-2018, 03:41 PM
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: England
Posts: 2,432
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sws region playlist.
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