v5.79pre1 - February 20 2018

[vitalker]

v5.79pre1 - February 20 2018

• + Automation items: add action to convert all project automation to automation items
• + Automation items: delete selected automation items when deleting media items
• + Automation items: split automation items when splitting media items
• + FX: support inserting FX chains via shortcut
• + MIDI: draw thinner arrange view notes/CC, lighter CC shading, avoid drawing overlapping PC/sysex
• + MIDI: preserve notation data when exploding items by pitch or channel
• + MIDI: themeable fill mode for chased MIDI CC data in arrange view
• # FX shortcuts: add fx shortcut actions to action list, so shortcuts can be edited there or toolbar buttons assigned

Changelog - Pre-Releases

Generated by X-Raym's REAPER ChangeLog to BBCode

[vitalker]

5.79? I never thought it will fulfill ever!
Such an incredible update! Thanks, Devs!

[Justin]

Originally Posted by vitalker

5.79? I never thought it will fulfill ever!

Giving ourselves room for 5.77 and 5.78 updates...

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by Justin

Giving ourselves room for 5.77 and 5.78 updates...

Haha, good move, Justin! Is it possible to add an action for converting to Automation item only selected envelope?

[EvilDragon]

Originally Posted by vitalker

• # FX shortcuts: add fx shortcut actions to action list, so shortcuts can be edited there or toolbar buttons assigned

This is actually very cool!

[EvilDragon]

Originally Posted by vitalker

[*]+ Automation items: split automation items when splitting media items

Doesn't work with split under mouse cursor action.

[EvilDragon]

I have defined a VSTi to a shortcut (example: u-he Bazille, to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace), it works, but it's not listed in action list for some reason?

EDIT: It is listed, but shortcut is not defined... That's the error that pops up, too, when I try to find shortcut...

EDIT #2: Yeah this is pretty flakey still... Randomly assigning FX and they don't even get listed in the action list, or sometimes they do, and when they do, the shortcut is not displayed at all...

[schwa]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

I have defined a VSTi to a shortcut (example: u-he Bazille, to Ctrl+Alt+Backspace), it works, but it's not listed in action list for some reason?

EDIT: It is listed, but shortcut is not defined... That's the error that pops up, too, when I try to find shortcut...

EDIT #2: Yeah this is pretty flakey still... Randomly assigning FX and they don't even get listed in the action list, or sometimes they do, and when they do, the shortcut is not displayed at all...

It's likely just an issue with refreshing the action list display. I assume when you restart REAPER the actions and shortcuts are all listed properly?

[EvilDragon]

Let me try that.


EDIT: Yup, that was it! Can anything be done regarding this?

[EvilDragon]

BTW devs - thank you for adding blending mode for chased CCs in the arrange view!

It would be very nice to have the same blending mode option for the MIDI editor! (That said, having the vertical grid coloring in MIDI editor is missing, too... after all those prereleases testing them in the arrange and getting them right!)

[vitalker]

Originally Posted by MRMJP

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jf5e5y1bci...%20AM.png?dl=0

It's not FX browser.

[DarkStar]

^^^
That reminds me - there is a choice to show an "Instruments" folder in the left-hand pane, why not one for "Effects" too?

[EvilDragon]

That's a very sound idea

[vanhaze]

"+ Automation items: delete selected automation items when deleting media items
+ Automation items: split automation items when splitting media items"

This sounds awesome, but can someone plz point me where to find these ?

[EvilDragon]

They are not new actions, rather behavior of current remove/split actions was modified.

Except split at mouse cursor.

[svijayrathinam]

[QUOTE=vitalker;1956885]v5.79pre1 - February 20 2018
[*]+ Automation items: delete selected automation items when deleting media items
/QUOTE]

This is a very cool feature. can you pls support this for regular automation envelope also ?

[svijayrathinam]

"+ Automation items: delete selected automation items when deleting media items"

Actually I cant get this to work. can you pls explain how this works ?

[EvilDragon]

You need to have both an item and an automation item selected, then use one of delete actions. If you're using one of SWS smart delete actions, it likely won't work... at least until SWS gets an update.

[HighVoltage]

So which branch will include the multiprocessing fiX?

[deeb]

[QUOTE=svijayrathinam;1957056]

Originally Posted by vitalker

v5.79pre1 - February 20 2018
[*]+ Automation items: delete selected automation items when deleting media items
/QUOTE]

This is a very cool feature. can you pls support this for regular automation envelope also ?

hope this is included

[mccrabney]

Originally Posted by vitalker

v5.79pre1 - February 20 2018
[list][*]+ Automation items: add action to convert all project automation to automation items[*]+ Automation items: delete selected automation items when deleting media items[*]+ Automation items: split automation items when splitting media items

so good. this is all working as desired here -- great work and thank you.

[_Stevie_]

Is this only me?
To me it would be logical, if the combined CC lane disappeared, if there is enough room to show the individual lanes.

[svijayrathinam]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

You need to have both an item and an automation item selected, then use one of delete actions. If you're using one of SWS smart delete actions, it likely won't work... at least until SWS gets an update.

Oh I see..Thx..But it would be very useful if I can delete a media item the respective automation item or its envelope should also get deleted if I have "Automation follows edits" turned on.

[Allspice]

Thanks a bunch! The AI adjustments really help to polish their rough edges.

While we're tidying up Automation Items, please consider adding the feature(?) for "Smart Cut/Copy/Paste" to apply to selected automation items even if there's no item within the time selection on the associated track as mentioned here.

Also, I didn't have time to test all of them but I just confirmed the following AI inconsistencies fromthis thread are still occurring in 5.79pre1:

Originally Posted by juliansader

Ctrl-dragging media items do not properly trim the edges of their AIs to the boundaries of the time selection (but Ctrl-dragging the AIs themselves, do trim):

Originally Posted by juliansader

The combination of "Copy selected area of items" with Paste
* 1) properly copies automation outside item boundaries, and
* 2) correctly trims the edges of AIs to the time selection boundaries,
whereas "Duplicate selected area of items" does neither:

Before copying or duplicating:


After copy/pasting using "Copy selected area of items":


After duplicating using "Duplicate selected area of items":


NB: Also note the related bug when copying "within time selection" with normal automation envelopes: Copy selected area of items" / "Paste" bug when more than one item in time selection. When more than one item overlaps the time selection, only one of the items' automation will overwrite the pre-existing automation. The other items' automation *mixes* with the pre-existing automation.

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Doesn't work with split under mouse cursor action.

Confirmed, Windows 10

[Travesty]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Doesn't work with split under mouse cursor action.

Also no left click option for AI mouse Modifiers, so we can't use split under mouse cursor on AI specifically.

[EvilDragon]

Originally Posted by Travesty

Also no left click option for AI mouse Modifiers, so we can't use split under mouse cursor on AI specifically.

Mouse modifiers have nothing to do with "split under mouse cursor" actions.

[vanhaze]

Indeed, correct Ed.
But all "under mouse" - Actions in Reaper Action List should preferably be working also on AI's imho.

Would be so powerful ..

[deeb]

Originally Posted by EvilDragon

Mouse modifiers have nothing to do with "split under mouse cursor" actions.

in terms of workflow, same action should work for both. "Delete whatever is selected", "split whatever is selected" , "split under mouse cursor whatever is there". I guess it will be like this when time permits.

[mccrabney]

yup, this is indeed the followup request

"Item: Select item under mouse cursor" should select automation items if they're under the mouse cursor.

i think there's a good reason to have an extra action for "select automation item under mouse/edit cursor"

"Script: cfillion_Add all automation items under mouse cursor to selection.lua" doesn't work if your envelopes are on the media lane

[mccrabney]

my desired behavior would be this:

1- user has a track with an AI on it, but no item.
2- user's track has AIs displayed in media lanes
3- user clicks on the track media lane within the AI bounds (but does NOT click the AI title band at bottom of track, which is currently necessary to select the AI)
4- DESIRED: clicking within bounds of AI selects the AI.
5- if multiple AI lanes are present, select AI whose lane is under mouse cursor when click occurs

[MRMJP]

Weird observances with 5.79pre1:

This seems to all be related to DMG EQuilibrium EQ. I can contact DMG but perhaps it can be addressed on the RPP side. I use the AU version.

1) When EQuilibrium is used in a session, when I try to open item copies in my external editor, the item copy opens but the RX window disappears and REAPER is visible again despite RX being shown in the top OSX menu. Video:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckmkywkdvb...us_V1.mov?dl=0

2) I seem to get crashes on playback when DMG is inserted. Crash reports:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebachi4clj...1_DMG.zip?dl=0

3) It looks like despite working in stereo, the surround version of EQuilibrium loads which might be the source of the playback crashes. Screen Shot:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/knl7csw4ux...1_DMG.png?dl=0


FWIW: DMG EQuilibrium is not always opening in surround mode, maybe some other plugins before it caused it to open is surround mode in my screen shot.

[mccrabney]

Originally Posted by deeb

in terms of workflow, same action should work for both. "Delete whatever is selected", "split whatever is selected" , "split under mouse cursor whatever is there". I guess it will be like this when time permits.

yes. among my most used custom actions are "split item under mouse cursor" and "delete item under mouse cursor."

for this to function with AIs, this all hinges on "select item under mouse cursor" also applying to AIs.

[Luster]

Originally Posted by MRMJP

This seems to all be related to DMG EQuilibrium EQ. I can contact DMG but perhaps it can be addressed on the RPP side. I use the AU version.

Is OpenGL switched on in the settings of Equilibrium? I had problems with DMG plugins in the past regarding fullscreen mode and that setting especially. This might be the reason for your false windows focus with the RX Editor. Hopefully. I will check here with Win/VST.

Edit: Checked. No problems regarding the focus problem.

[Allspice]

Originally Posted by mccrabney

my desired behavior would be this:

1- user has a track with an AI on it, but no item.
2- user's track has AIs displayed in media lanes
3- user clicks on the track media lane within the AI bounds (but does NOT click the AI title band at bottom of track, which is currently necessary to select the AI)
4- DESIRED: clicking within bounds of AI selects the AI.
5- if multiple AI lanes are present, select AI whose lane is under mouse cursor when click occurs

It seems odd to me to want to have AIs in media lanes- so far I'm fine with them chilling in their envelope lanes. What's the reasoning behind this? I feel like this would lead to visual inconsistencies if you wanted to, say, drag copy an item to a section of the song where there are automation items sitting in the media lane.

[MRMJP]

Originally Posted by Luster

Is OpenGL switched on in the settings of Equilibrium? I had problems with DMG plugins in the past regarding fullscreen mode and that setting especially. This might be the reason for your false windows focus with the RX Editor. Hopefully. I will check here with Win/VST.

Edit: Checked. No problems regarding the focus problem.

Thanks. I just checked and open GL was disabled.

[MRMJP]

FWIW, I had this RX focus issue a little while back and it seemingly went away. It was probably just that I hadn't really used EQuilibrium again since then.

I had a feeling it had to do with either larger/longer sessions or a certain plugin like EQuilibrium and it seems like it is EQuilibrium that is causing havoc.

I may try the VST3 version but EQuilibrium has a crazy amount of setting like REAPER itself that I'd have to redo.

I'm working on a new project right now that is pretty much the same as the trouble session but I didn't use EQuilibrium at all and there is no issue.

EQuilibrium AU seems to have the focus issue, and other crashing issues.

[EpicSounds]

Triplet grid seems to be broken in recent update.

Screenshot from 5.76, but same for 5.79pre1. Pretty sure 5.70 worked right.




to reproduce - set grid to 16 or 32-note triplet and zoom in.

[schwa]

Originally Posted by MRMJP

2) I seem to get crashes on playback when DMG is inserted.

I can reproduce the crash when changing the number of track channels downwards, say from 6 channels to 4 channels. But it also crashes in all previous versions of REAPER as far as I can tell, which isn't good but also means it's not a regression in REAPER. We'll try to contact the developers and see if they can work with us to fix the problem.

[MRMJP]

Originally Posted by schwa

I can reproduce the crash when changing the number of track channels downwards, say from 6 channels to 4 channels. But it also crashes in all previous versions of REAPER as far as I can tell, which isn't good but also means it's not a regression in REAPER. We'll try to contact the developers and see if they can work with us to fix the problem.

Thanks. I don't use EQuilibrium every day in REAPER like I do FabFilter Pro-Q2 or other plugins but it does seem to be problematic.

Today was the first time I've seen it insert as more than a 2 channel plugin though and I work only in stereo.

From the crashing, to the taxing CPU on rendering even when it's in bypass via REAPER, and messing up the RX6 GUI when opening an item copy in RX from REAPER.

Thanks again.

[schwa]

Originally Posted by EpicSounds

Triplet grid

Fixing, thanks for the report.