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Old 01-13-2019, 05:57 PM   #1
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Default Win 10: Can't enable Midi when used as control surface.

I went from xp to 10. Now with reaper 4.62 I can't select enable for my device in midi configuration along with selecting it in control surface without causing a can't open device error. Thus I can't use midi learn on it for plugins.

It worked before the upgrade from xp. It's the same with both my FireWire saffire 26 and a generic usb2 midi.

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Old 01-14-2019, 07:09 AM   #2
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Try reinstalling the program, should help.
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:23 AM   #3
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I'm surprised that this worked on WinXP, I thought (on Windows at least) a MIDI port can always only be open 'for one client' (not sure if the correct wording), in your case in Reaper either as MIDI device or control surface, but not both at once.
Doesn't work here on Win 8.1 either.

Anyway, I'd think it's rather a Windows limitation than something Reaper could do about it.
Someone may correct me though.

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On (I think) older Win versions there was something like Direct music / emulated MIDI ports or some such, maybe it's got to do with this?

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Old 01-14-2019, 11:58 AM   #4
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Thanks for the info. I tried a clean install, no better. I tried my laptop, same thing. So I bought a USB midi interface with a thru. That way I can get the midi output of the surface to show up twice.

The user guide needs some serious updating if this has changed in the latest windows versions.
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:05 PM   #5
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Thanks for the info. I tried a clean install, no better. I tried my laptop, same thing. So I bought a USB midi interface with a thru. That way I can get the midi output of the surface to show up twice.

The user guide needs some serious updating if this has changed in the latest windows versions.
i don't remember it was ever possible, but anyway, you didn't necessarily need to buy an interface to get it to send to two ports, you could use virtual ports like copperlan, loopMIDI, rtpMIDI etc.
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Old 01-14-2019, 03:33 PM   #6
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i don't remember it was ever possible, but anyway, you didn't necessarily need to buy an interface to get it to send to two ports, you could use virtual ports like copperlan, loopMIDI, rtpMIDI etc.
Thanks,I tried some of those but could not figure out how to split an input. I could split an input with midiox but that had problems also. So I spent $16 on a cheap class compliant interface.

It still works in xp on my old partition. The user guide is way off now.

Edit: The Tbox $16 interface showed up, configured in win 10 and solved the problem. Control surface midi out -> Tbox in, Tbox thru -> sapphiire midi in, sapphiire midi out -> control surface midi in. Used sapphiire midi in for surface, Tbox enabled + cntl

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