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12-20-2016, 12:33 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 305
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Bug with exclusive solo and hidden tracks
As the title says, there's a bug when exclusive soloing tracks that are hidden, either from TCP or MCP. It seems a bit complicated but I'll do my best in trying to explain the situation.
I have a simple .rpp attached, consisting of 3 tracks:
1: Not hidden
2: TCP hidden
3: MCP hidden
Basically the bug is that if I exclusive solo track 3 (from the TCP obviously) and then track 2 (from the MCP), the solo for track 3 isn't cleared.
Then again, if I first exclusive solo track 1 from the TCP and then track 2 from the MCP the solo for track 1 is cleared. If I then exclusive solo track 1 from the TCP, the solo for track 2 isn't cleared, but if I do the same for track 1 from the MCP instead, the solo for track 2 is cleared.
So it seems that this bug happens only after a hidden track is exclusive soloed, and another track is exclusive soloed from the other CP.
Of course the first solo doesn't need to be explicitly "exclusive" if no solos are active.
This also affects unsolo all, hidden tracks don't get unsoloed if unsolo all is done from a different CP than where the (exclusive) solo was done from.
For example: solo tracks 1 and 3 from the TCP, then unsolo all from track 1 in the MCP and track 3 is still soloed. This works on more tracks too: all soloed hidden tracks are unsolo all-able (yes, that's a silly sounding term) only from the CP they were soloed from.
I think that's about it, if I come up with more scenarios I'll add some info.
REAPER 5.30 (haven't done anything in REAPER for quite some time so I have no idea how long the bug has been there).
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04-25-2017, 04:38 AM
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#2
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Slovakia
Posts: 2,588
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Still present in 5.40. (Win7 x64, Reaper x86)
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04-28-2017, 11:35 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 12,480
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Confirmed (5.40 x64).
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04-28-2017, 01:10 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,568
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I find this behavior pretty useful to be honest.
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04-28-2017, 06:25 PM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 305
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EpicSounds
I find this behavior pretty useful to be honest.
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Exactly how do you find this useful? I guess the majority of us finds this rather irritating
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05-15-2018, 06:42 PM
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#6
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 305
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Still there in 5.80
Of course, if this is by design, could someone tell me what the practical use of this even is? I find it rather counterintuitive having to remember where I've soloed my tracks from.
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05-16-2018, 06:12 AM
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#7
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Administrator
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 15,721
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EpicSounds
I find this behavior pretty useful to be honest.
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I could see it being useful for mutes, but for solos it seems like it would be annoying more than anything, since a hidden soloed track prevents all nonsoloed tracks from playing.
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05-16-2018, 08:24 AM
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#8
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,568
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
I could see it being useful for mutes, but for solos it seems like it would be annoying more than anything, since a hidden soloed track prevents all nonsoloed tracks from playing.
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very unlikely a user would solo and hide a track accidentally.
I do it when editing multitracks. I might solo kick and snare, plus the track I'm editing and only show the drum bus folder and the track I'm editing.
I frequently use shortcuts to show only selected tracks, hide selected track, and show all tracks. Hidden in both TCP and MCP. I don't use the track manager.
Don't remember exactly what I was working on a year ago when I made the comment.
I wouldn't want an action like 'unmute all' or "unsolo all" to apply to non-visible tracks.
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