Old 09-11-2021, 06:51 AM   #1
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Hi, I am using a Casio PSX 3000 Keyboard - it's nice, but the MIDI implementation is quite horrible :/

The (internal MIDI !) sounds are NOT grouped to logical banks - f.e. Piano 1 is on Bank 3 Sound 0, but Piano 2 on bank 1 Sound 1, Piano 3 on bank 2 sound 0 and so on ...

Is there any way to create a .reabank file with a format like Prog-Nr Bank-MSB Bank-LSB for each line / sound?

There are some kind of "unsorted" .ins files, but it takes me hours for searching the correct sound ..

Thx for your help
Deffe

btw: I found a cubase patch file that perfectly fits - perhaps a "load cubase patch file" would be a nice feature

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Old 09-15-2021, 11:40 PM   #2
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Simplest solution is to find a Cakewalk instrument file (.INS). It'll load just like a ReaBanks file.

Then edit a copy of it so each line contains both bank and program. Once you do that you can sort by program nanes to get all the pianos (for example) on adjacent lines in the file.

I've done this for my Roland GR33 guitar synth and it works fine.
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Old 09-15-2021, 11:48 PM   #3
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Hi Philbo King,
I do have an ".ins" file, but is has the "normal" format: one line for the BANK and then the sounds in this bank:

[CASIO PX-S3000 Bank 1-0]
1=2 GrPno Bright
0=4 Stage Piano
6=25 Harpsichord1
4=32 Elec.Piano 1
5=43 Digital EP 1
7=54 Clavi 1
11=60 Vibraphone 1
13=64 Xylophone
8=65 Celesta
9=66 Glockenspiel
...

At the end of the ".ins" file is a patch section:

.Instrument Definitions

[CASIO PX-S3000 Patch]

Patch[0]=CASIO PX-S3000 OTHERS 0-0
Patch[128]=CASIO PX-S3000 Bank 1-0
Patch[256]=CASIO PX-S3000 Bank 2-0
...

Could you please post a snippet of your GR33 ".ins" file, so that I can see how to combine bank and sound infos?

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Old 09-16-2021, 09:55 AM   #4
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I must apologize, I misstated my solution. It turns out there are only 2 banks in the GR33, called Presets and User. My solution probably won't work for you.

You might find this useful if you revert back to trying Reabanks:
https://stash.reaper.fm/v/7453/Art_of_Reabanks.pdf

In case you want to look it over:

****Start****


.Patch Names


[Roland GR-33 Presets]
; Pianos
13= E42 Midi Piano
19= E54 Salsa & Piano
20= E61 Grand Piano
21= E62 Overdrive Piano
23= E64 Panning Rhodes Piano
24= E71 Bass & Rhodes
; Organs
7= E24 Elec. Organ / pedal
25= E72 Rock Organ
26= E73 Purple Organ
; Bass
9= E32 Fretless Bass
48= F51 Acoustic Bass
49= F52 Fingered Bass
50= F53 Slap Bass
51= F54 Deep Fretless Bass
52= F61 Guitarron Bass
53= F62 TB-303 Bass
54= F63 Pedal Bass
56= F71 Saw Yer Bass Synth
; Guitar
3= E14 GR-300 Lead
4= E21 12 String Guitar
12= E41 Nylon String Guitar
14= E43 Dist. Guitar
58= F73 Rock Lead
59= F74 Clean Tele Guit
60= F81 JC Strat Guit
61= F82 Steel String Guit
62= F83 Pedal Steel Min3rd Guit
63= F84 Flamenco Guit
83= G54 Digi Guitar Synth
; Ethnic
1= E12 Didgeridoo & Flute
15= E44 Elec Sitar
16= E51 Tabla & Sitar
17= E52 Didgeridoo & Pan Pipe
18= E53 Tabla & VoxKit
33= F12 Mizmar (Arab Clarinet)
64= G11 Sitar & Drone
65= G12 Shamisen
66= G13 Orient Express
; Pad
2= E13 Jangle Pad
8= E31 Romantic pad
10= E33 Daft Wave Pad
22= E63 Midi Pad keys
27= E74 Gothic Pad
67= G14 Planet Aminor Pad
79= G44 Bell Pad
80= G51 Air Bell pad
99= H14 Soundtrack Pad
100=H21 Total Eclipse Pad
103=H24 Hollow Pad
104=H31 Hybrid Pad w Gliss
105=H32 JP Soft Pad
106=H33 Floating Prologue Pad
110=H43 Orbit Shuffle Pad
111=H44 Step Flanger Pad
112=H51 Stobe Mode Pad
113=H52 Flying Gremlins Pad
114=H53 Oxygen Jar Pad
115=H54 Dyno Space Pad
116=H61 Molten Lava
117=H62 Nightmare Pad
119=H64 Cosmos (Bass & Pad)
120=H71 Spaceship Pad
; Strings
6= E23 GR Strings
11= E34 Cmaj-Strings
91= G74 Fiddle/Violin
92= G81 Hybrid Strings
93= G82 JP8 Strings
94= G83 Phaser Strings1
95= G84 Phaser Strings 2
; Flute
29= E82 Bamboo Flute
30= E83 Vox Flute
31= E84 Tin Whistle
32= F11 Blow Pipe
73= G32 Wichita Pipe
; Reed
28= E81 Accordion
34= F13 Harmonica
35= F14 Soprano Sax
36= F21 Alto Sax
37= F22 Breathy Tenor Sax
; Brass
38= F23 Trumpet
39= F24 Mute Trumpet
40= F31 French Horn Section
41= F32 Tenor Sax Section
42= F33 Trumpet + Tuba Section
43= F34 Tuba + Sax Section
44= F41 Oktoberfest (Tuba & Horns)
45= F42 Big Brass
46= F43 Huge Saw Brass
47= F44 Saw brass
; Synth
5= E22 303 Tekno
55= F64 Tekno Taurus Synth
57= F72 Pick Wah Synth
72= G31 SoftDigi Sweep Synth
74= G33 70s Saw Lead
75= G34 Brite Saw Lead
76= G41 Detuned Saws
77= G42 Sync Lead Sweep
78= G43 OD Synth Lead
81= G52 Wire Strings Synth
82= G53 Nasty Keys Synth
84= G61 Digi Saw
85= G62 Blaster Octave Synth
86= G63 150 BPM Synth
101=H22 Sweeping Saw
102=H23 Deep Sweep Saw
107=H34 Conqueror Saw
109=H42 Pulsater
118=H63 Filter Dance
; Bells
68= G21 Tubular Bells
69= G22 Angel Bells
70= G23 Asian Bells
; Voice
0= E11 Jazz Scat
96= H11 Choir
97= H12 Gregorian Chant
98= H13 LFO Vox
108=H41 Digi 'Doo' Choir
122=H73 Human Vox Drums
; Hits
87= G64 Tape stop
88= G71 Philly Hit
89= G72 Ultimate Hit
90= G73 Orch Hit
; Percussion
71= G24 Steel Drum
121=H72 All Wound Up (Flanged Drums)
123=H74 Percussion Kit
124=H81 Gamelan Kit
125=H82 Industrial Kit
126=H83 Tribal Drums
127=H84 Drum Kit


[Roland GR-33 User Bank]
; Pianos
13= A42 Midi Piano
19= A54 Salsa & Piano
20= A61 Grand Piano
21= A62 Overdrive Piano
23= A64 Panning Rhodes Piano
24= A71 Bass & Rhodes
; Organs
7= A24 Elec. Organ / pedal
25= A72 Rock Organ
26= A73 Purple Organ
; Bass
9= A32 Fretless Bass
48= B51 Acoustic Bass
49= B52 Fingered Bass
50= B53 Slap Bass
51= B54 Deep Fretless Bass
52= B61 Guitarron Bass
53= B62 TB-303 Bass
54= B63 Pedal Bass
56= B71 Saw Yer Bass Synth
; Guitar
3= A14 GR-300 Lead
4= A21 12 String Guitar
12= A41 Nylon String Guitar
14= A43 Dist. Guitar
58= B73 Rock Lead
59= B74 Clean Tele Guit
60= B81 JC Strat Guit
61= B82 Steel String Guit
62= B83 Pedal Steel Min3rd Guit
63= B84 Flamenco Guit
83= C54 Digi Guitar Synth
; Ethnic
1= A12 Didgeridoo & Flute
15= A44 Elec Sitar
16= A51 Tabla & Sitar
17= A52 Didgeridoo & Pan Pipe
18= A53 Tabla & VoxKit
33= B12 Mizmar (Arab Clarinet)
64= C11 Sitar & Drone
65= C12 Shamisen
; Pad
66= C13 Orient Express
2= A13 Jangle Pad
8= A31 Romantic pad
10= A33 Daft Wave Pad
22= A63 Midi Pad keys
27= A74 Gothic Pad
67= C14 Planet Aminor Pad
79= C44 Bell Pad
80= C51 Air Bell pad
99= D14 Soundtrack Pad
100=D21 Total Eclipse Pad
103=D24 Hollow Pad
104=D31 Hybrid Pad w Gliss
105=D32 JP Soft Pad
106=D33 Floating Prologue Pad
110=D43 Orbit Shuffle Pad
111=D44 Step Flanger Pad
112=D51 Stobe Mode Pad
113=D52 Flying Gremlins Pad
114=D53 Oxygen Jar Pad
115=D54 Dyno Space Pad
116=D61 Molten Lava
117=D62 Nightmare Pad
119=D64 Cosmos (Bass & Pad)
120=D71 Spaceship Pad
; Strings
6= A23 GR Strings
11= A34 Cmaj-Strings
91= C74 Fiddle/Violin
92= C81 Hybrid Strings
93= C82 JP8 Strings
94= C83 Phaser Strings1
95= C84 Phaser Strings 2
; Flute
29= A82 Bamboo Flute
30= A83 Vox Flute
31= A84 Tin Whistle
32= B11 Blow Pipe
73= C32 Wichita Pipe
; Reed
28= A81 Accordion
34= B13 Harmonica
35= B14 Soprano Sax
36= B21 Alto Sax
37= B22 Breathy Tenor Sax
; Brass
38= B23 Trumpet
39= B24 Mute Trumpet
40= B31 French Horn Section
41= B32 Tenor Sax Section
42= B33 Trumpet + Tuba Section
43= B34 Tuba + Sax Section
44= B41 Oktoberfest (Tuba & Horns)
45= B42 Big Brass
46= B43 Huge Saw Brass
47= B44 Saw brass
; Synth
5= A22 303 Tekno
55= B64 Tekno Taurus Synth
57= B72 Pick Wah Synth
72= C31 SoftDigi Sweep Synth
74= C33 70s Saw Lead
75= C34 Brite Saw Lead
76= C41 Detuned Saws
77= C42 Sync Lead Sweep
78= C43 OD Synth Lead
81= C52 Wire Strings Synth
82= C53 Nasty Keys Synth
84= C61 Digi Saw
85= C62 Blaster Octave Synth
86= C63 150 BPM Synth
101=D22 Sweeping Saw
102=D23 Deep Sweep Saw
107=D34 Conqueror Saw
109=D42 Pulsater
118=D63 Filter Dance
; Bells
68= C21 Tubular Bells
69= C22 Angel Bells
70= C23 Asian Bells
; Voice
0= A11 Jazz Scat
96= D11 Choir
97= D12 Gregorian Chant
98= D13 LFO Vox
108=D41 Digi 'Doo' Choir
122=D73 Human Vox Drums
; Hits
87= C64 Tape stop
88= C71 Philly Hit
89= C72 Ultimate Hit
90= C73 Orch Hit
; Percussion
71= C24 Steel Drum
121=D72 All Wound Up (Flanged Drums)
123=D74 Percussion Kit
124=D81 Gamelan Kit
125=D82 Industrial Kit
126=D83 Tribal Drums
127=D84 Drum Kit

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------

.Note Names


; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
; The Controller Names Section was added by Cristóbal de Jesús (Toby)
; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
.Controller Names


[Roland GR-33 Controllers]
0=0-Bank Select
1=1-Modulation
2=2-Assignable to EXP pedal
3=3-Assignable to EXP pedal
4=4-Foot type
5=5-Assignable to EXP pedal
6=6-Data Entry (transm only)
7=7-Volume
8=8-Assignable to EXP pedal
9=9-Assignable to EXP pedal
10=10-Panpot
11=11-Assignable to EXP pedal
12=12-Assignable to EXP pedal
13=13-Assignable to EXP pedal
14=14-Assignable to EXP pedal
15=15-Assignable to EXP pedal
16=16-Assignable to EXP pedal
17=17-Harmony Key (GP2)
18=18-Envelope 1/2 (GP3)
19=19-WAH Pedal (GP4)
20=20-Assignable to EXP pedal
21=21-Assignable to EXP pedal
22=22-Assignable to EXP pedal
23=23-Assignable to EXP pedal
24=24-Assignable to EXP pedal
25=25-Assignable to EXP pedal
26=26-Assignable to EXP pedal
27=27-Assignable to EXP pedal
28=28-Assignable to EXP pedal
29=29-Assignable to EXP pedal
30=30-Assignable to EXP pedal
31=31-Assignable to EXP pedal
32=32-Bank Select
38=38-Data Entry (transmit only)
64=64 Hold 1 (receive only)
65=65-Assignable to EXP pedal
66=66-Assignable to EXP pedal
67=67-Assignable to EXP pedal
68=68-Assignable to EXP pedal
69=69-Assignable to EXP pedal
70=70-Assignable to EXP pedal
71=71-Assignable to EXP pedal
72=72-Assignable to EXP pedal
73=73-Assignable to EXP pedal
74=74-Assignable to EXP pedal
75=75-Assignable to EXP pedal
76=76-Assignable to EXP pedal
77=77-Assignable to EXP pedal
78=78-Assignable to EXP pedal
79=79-Assignable to EXP pedal
80=80-Tap Tempo Teach
81=81-CTRL pedal (GP6)
82=82-HOLD pedal (GP7)
83=83-Arpeggio Hold (GP8)
84=84-Assignable to EXP pedal
85=85-Assignable to EXP pedal
86=86-Assignable to EXP pedal
87=87-Assignable to EXP pedal
88=88-Assignable to EXP pedal
89=89-Assignable to EXP pedal
90=90-Assignable to EXP pedal
91=91-Effect 1 (Reverb Send Lvl)
92=92-Assignable to EXP pedal
93=93-Effect 3 (Chorus Send Lvl)
94=94-Assignable to EXP pedal
95=95-Assignable to EXP pedal
100=RPN LSB (PBend Sens only)
101=RPN MSB (PBend Sens only)

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
; The RPN Names Section was added by Cristóbal de Jesús (Toby)
; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
.RPN Names


[Roland GR-33 RPN]
0=Pitch Bend Sensitivity

; ----------------------------------------------------------------------

.Instrument Definitions


[Roland GR-33]
BankSelMethod=1
Control=Roland GR-33 Controllers
RPN=Roland GR-33 RPN
Patch[0]=Roland GR-33 User Bank
Patch[1]=Roland GR-33 Presets
Patch[*]=Roland GR-33 Presets
Key[*,*]=Diatonic

***end***
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Old 09-16-2021, 10:19 PM   #5
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Thx for the info - yes, this won't work for me ...
But one question: at the end of your file there is an entry "BankSelMethod=1"
Do you know what it stands for and what for Modes exists?

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Old 09-18-2021, 05:18 AM   #6
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Thx for the info - yes, this won't work for me ...
But one question: at the end of your file there is an entry "BankSelMethod=1"
Do you know what it stands for and what for Modes exists?

Greetings
Deffe

Quote from https://sourceforge.net/p/vmpk/discu...read/c6760cf5/
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Because not all synthesizers strictly agree the MIDI specification, there is a BankSelMethod setting available to .INS instrument specifications. One explanation of the INS format is here: http://tse3.sourceforge.net/doc/InsFiles.html

Bankselmethod takes a value from 0 to 3, meaning:
0 = Normal - bank select MSB and LSB matter
1 = Only the MSB is used and defined
2 = Only the LSB is used and defined
3 = Only program changes are used and defined

Method 0 (normal) is used by default. This is the method usually needed by GM/GS and XG synthesizers.
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