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Old 06-15-2021, 08:44 AM   #1
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Default Midi hardware output events not transmitted [NOT SOLVED]

It turns out that my Windows installation was corrupted! It must have happened during the transition from 7 to 10, as I just updated the OS. The more I tried to fix the faulty behaviour, the more obvious it became that some Windows modules were completely missing! After a clean reinstall, everything's back to normal as far as I can see at the moment.

I̶n̶ ̶o̶r̶d̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶k̶e̶e̶p̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶t̶i̶t̶l̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶r̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶p̶i̶c̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶l̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶f̶u̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶s̶i̶b̶l̶e̶,̶ ̶I̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ ̶I̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶a̶d̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶d̶i̶s̶t̶i̶n̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶e̶x̶p̶l̶a̶n̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶:̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶N̶O̶T̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶u̶n̶r̶e̶c̶o̶g̶n̶i̶z̶e̶d̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶h̶a̶r̶d̶w̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶o̶r̶ ̶h̶a̶r̶d̶w̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶r̶t̶s̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶d̶e̶v̶i̶c̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶s̶t̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶s̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶f̶e̶r̶e̶n̶c̶e̶s̶.̶
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̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶s̶u̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶a̶ ̶d̶o̶u̶b̶t̶ ̶l̶i̶n̶k̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶a̶ ̶(̶?̶)̶ ̶(̶c̶o̶r̶r̶u̶p̶t̶?̶)̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶j̶e̶c̶t̶,̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶d̶o̶e̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶p̶e̶n̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶I̶ ̶o̶p̶e̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶e̶m̶p̶t̶y̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶j̶e̶c̶t̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶q̶u̶e̶s̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶m̶a̶r̶k̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶m̶e̶a̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶i̶n̶d̶i̶c̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶c̶l̶e̶a̶r̶l̶y̶ ̶t̶r̶i̶g̶g̶e̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶o̶p̶e̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶c̶i̶f̶i̶c̶ ̶R̶P̶P̶ ̶-̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶a̶c̶t̶u̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶m̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶i̶r̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶f̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶R̶e̶a̶p̶e̶r̶.̶
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̶W̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶p̶e̶n̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶p̶e̶n̶:̶ ̶I̶ ̶r̶o̶u̶t̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶p̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶,̶ ̶s̶a̶y̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶e̶x̶ ̶2̶,̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶p̶e̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶L̶E̶D̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶d̶e̶v̶i̶c̶e̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶l̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶,̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶w̶e̶l̶l̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶n̶e̶c̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶s̶y̶n̶t̶h̶e̶s̶i̶z̶e̶r̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶r̶e̶c̶e̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶t̶.̶ ̶B̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶d̶o̶e̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶c̶e̶n̶a̶r̶i̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶l̶o̶w̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶r̶a̶c̶k̶ ̶r̶e̶c̶e̶i̶v̶e̶s̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶a̶s̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶k̶e̶y̶b̶o̶a̶r̶d̶ ̶-̶ ̶v̶i̶s̶u̶a̶l̶ ̶i̶n̶d̶i̶c̶a̶t̶o̶r̶s̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶e̶x̶ ̶h̶a̶r̶d̶w̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶w̶e̶l̶l̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶R̶e̶a̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶-̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶r̶o̶u̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶A̶N̶Y̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶p̶u̶t̶.̶
̶T̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶n̶o̶ ̶p̶l̶u̶g̶i̶n̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶p̶u̶t̶ ̶F̶X̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶R̶e̶a̶C̶o̶n̶t̶r̶o̶l̶M̶I̶D̶I̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶r̶a̶c̶k̶ ̶i̶t̶s̶e̶l̶f̶,̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶r̶e̶m̶o̶v̶e̶ ̶o̶r̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶,̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶d̶o̶e̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶m̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶d̶i̶f̶f̶e̶r̶e̶n̶c̶e̶.̶ ̶E̶x̶t̶r̶e̶m̶e̶l̶y̶ ̶f̶r̶u̶s̶t̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶,̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶v̶i̶o̶u̶s̶ ̶w̶e̶e̶k̶s̶/̶v̶e̶r̶s̶i̶o̶n̶s̶.̶ ̶E̶x̶t̶r̶e̶m̶e̶l̶y̶ ̶f̶r̶u̶s̶t̶r̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶w̶e̶l̶l̶,̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶t̶i̶n̶u̶e̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶u̶r̶r̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶j̶e̶c̶t̶.̶ ̶I̶ ̶s̶i̶m̶p̶l̶y̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶y̶n̶t̶h̶ ̶I̶ ̶w̶a̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶.̶ ̶I̶ ̶h̶o̶p̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶d̶e̶v̶s̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶f̶i̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶s̶o̶l̶u̶t̶i̶o̶n̶!̶
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̶I̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶e̶d̶,̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶e̶t̶t̶e̶d̶,̶ ̶c̶h̶e̶c̶k̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶,̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶w̶a̶y̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶a̶m̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶s̶u̶e̶:̶
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̶I̶ ̶o̶p̶e̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶e̶m̶p̶t̶y̶ ̶R̶e̶a̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶j̶e̶c̶t̶,̶ ̶a̶d̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶t̶r̶a̶c̶k̶,̶ ̶r̶o̶u̶t̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶p̶e̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶p̶u̶t̶.̶ ̶W̶o̶r̶k̶i̶n̶g̶.̶
̶N̶o̶w̶ ̶I̶ ̶l̶o̶a̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶e̶x̶i̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶j̶e̶c̶t̶ ̶(̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶r̶e̶a̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶3̶0̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶u̶t̶e̶s̶ ̶a̶g̶o̶)̶.̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶p̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶l̶o̶n̶g̶e̶r̶.̶
̶I̶ ̶q̶u̶i̶t̶ ̶R̶e̶a̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶l̶o̶a̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶e̶m̶p̶t̶y̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶j̶e̶c̶t̶.̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶p̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶i̶n̶g̶.̶
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̶W̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶p̶e̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶g̶o̶u̶n̶d̶/̶o̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶O̶S̶ ̶l̶e̶v̶e̶l̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶c̶o̶r̶r̶u̶p̶t̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶l̶e̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶p̶u̶t̶ ̶u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶n̶e̶x̶t̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶?̶ ̶A̶f̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶o̶p̶e̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶.̶R̶P̶P̶?̶
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̶A̶ ̶l̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶g̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶:̶ ̶I̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶e̶d̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶h̶a̶r̶d̶w̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶s̶i̶n̶c̶e̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶f̶i̶r̶s̶t̶ ̶A̶t̶a̶r̶i̶ ̶S̶T̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶1̶9̶8̶7̶.̶ ̶I̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶t̶a̶l̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶I̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶g̶o̶ ̶w̶r̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶e̶t̶w̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶p̶u̶t̶e̶r̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶e̶r̶f̶a̶c̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶n̶e̶c̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶d̶e̶v̶i̶c̶e̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶c̶l̶e̶a̶r̶l̶y̶ ̶a̶ ̶R̶e̶a̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶i̶s̶s̶u̶e̶.̶

EDIT: Same behaviour when I deleted the respective Midi track, saved and re-opened the RPP and added a new track with the respective Midi output.
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I̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶a̶ ̶c̶e̶r̶t̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶i̶m̶e̶ ̶-̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶2̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶1̶5̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶u̶t̶e̶s̶ ̶-̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶s̶u̶d̶d̶e̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶r̶a̶n̶s̶m̶i̶s̶s̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶e̶r̶r̶u̶p̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶w̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶p̶i̶c̶k̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶ ̶I̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶.̶ ̶
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S̶o̶ ̶y̶e̶s̶,̶ ̶R̶e̶a̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶d̶e̶e̶d̶ ̶k̶i̶l̶l̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶v̶e̶r̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶d̶a̶t̶a̶ ̶f̶l̶o̶w̶.̶ ̶I̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶a̶l̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶C̶a̶k̶e̶w̶a̶l̶k̶,̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶g̶r̶a̶m̶m̶e̶d̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶s̶e̶q̶u̶e̶n̶c̶e̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶e̶x̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶e̶r̶f̶a̶c̶e̶.̶
̶C̶l̶o̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶C̶a̶k̶e̶w̶a̶l̶k̶,̶ ̶o̶p̶e̶n̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶R̶e̶a̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶j̶e̶c̶t̶,̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶r̶s̶e̶ ̶d̶i̶d̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶,̶ ̶c̶l̶o̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶R̶e̶a̶p̶e̶r̶,̶ ̶w̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶C̶a̶k̶e̶w̶a̶l̶k̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶.̶.̶.̶ ̶n̶o̶ ̶M̶i̶d̶i̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶,̶ ̶e̶i̶t̶h̶e̶r̶.̶
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̶A̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶R̶e̶a̶p̶e̶r̶,̶ ̶h̶o̶n̶e̶s̶t̶l̶y̶,̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶I̶ ̶l̶o̶v̶e̶,̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶k̶i̶l̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶c̶r̶e̶a̶t̶i̶v̶i̶t̶y̶.̶ ̶F̶o̶r̶ ̶3̶ ̶d̶a̶y̶s̶ ̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶t̶r̶y̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶f̶i̶x̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶w̶,̶ ̶I̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶n̶o̶ ̶i̶d̶e̶a̶ ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶w̶r̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶h̶o̶w̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶e̶r̶r̶o̶r̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶t̶r̶o̶d̶u̶c̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶i̶r̶s̶t̶ ̶p̶l̶a̶c̶e̶.̶ ̶
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U̵p̵d̵a̵t̵e̵:̵ ̵R̵e̵a̵p̵e̵r̵ ̵l̵o̵s̵t̵ ̵s̵o̵m̵e̵,̵ ̵n̵o̵t̵ ̵a̵l̵l̵,̵ ̵M̵i̵d̵i̵ ̵o̵u̵t̵p̵u̵t̵s̵ ̵(̵n̵o̵t̵ ̵i̵n̵p̵u̵t̵s̵)̵ ̵a̵f̵t̵e̵r̵ ̵a̵n̵ ̵o̵f̵f̵l̵i̵n̵e̵ ̵r̵e̵n̵d̵e̵r̵.̵
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̵M̵a̵y̵b̵e̵ ̵a̵ ̵h̵i̵n̵t̵ ̵f̵o̵r̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵d̵e̵v̵s̵?̵
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Update: Reaper lost some, not all, Midi outputs (not inputs) after an offline render.
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̵F̵i̵r̵s̵t̵ ̵i̵t̵ ̵w̵o̵r̵k̵e̵d̵ ̵p̵e̵r̵f̵e̵c̵t̵l̵y̵,̵ ̵b̵u̵t̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵n̵ ̵I̵ ̵o̵p̵e̵n̵e̵d̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵p̵r̵e̵f̵e̵r̵e̵n̵c̵e̵s̵ ̵w̵i̵n̵d̵o̵w̵.̵ ̵T̵h̵e̵ ̵r̵e̵s̵u̵l̵t̵:̵ ̵M̵i̵d̵i̵ ̵d̵r̵i̵v̵e̵r̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵n̵'̵t̵ ̵s̵e̵n̵d̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵e̵v̵e̵n̵t̵s̵ ̵t̵o̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵h̵a̵r̵d̵w̵a̵r̵e̵ ̵o̵u̵t̵p̵u̵t̵s̵ ̵a̵n̵y̵ ̵l̵o̵n̵g̵e̵r̵.̵
̵S̵o̵ ̵1̵)̵ ̵o̵p̵e̵n̵ ̵r̵e̵n̵d̵e̵r̵ ̵w̵i̵n̵d̵o̵w̵ ̵a̵n̵d̵ ̵2̵)̵ ̵o̵p̵e̵n̵ ̵p̵r̵e̵f̵e̵r̵e̵n̵c̵e̵s̵ ̵w̵i̵n̵d̵o̵w̵ ̵-̵-̵>̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵s̵e̵ ̵s̵e̵e̵m̵ ̵t̵o̵ ̵b̵r̵e̵a̵k̵ ̵s̵o̵m̵e̵t̵h̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵i̵n̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵i̵n̵t̵e̵r̵f̵a̵c̵e̵ ̵d̵r̵i̵v̵e̵r̵.̵ ̵B̵u̵t̵ ̵w̵h̵a̵t̵?̵ ̵A̵n̵d̵ ̵h̵o̵w̵ ̵c̵a̵n̵ ̵I̵ ̵s̵o̵l̵v̵e̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵i̵s̵s̵u̵e̵?̵
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can you clearly post the steps to reproduce this bug (if it is one)?
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can you clearly post the steps to reproduce this bug (if it is one)?
Thanks so much for stopping by, domzy!

Not sure if this qualifies as a "bug" ... OTOH what else is it - the question is, is it a Reaper bug, a Windows bug, or a Steinberg bug? As far as I could test, it only happens in Reaper, not in Cakewalk, that might exclude both the latter assumptions.

The crucial steps here are:

- create a track with a hardware Midi output and arm it
- create an audio track, input set to your outboard synth and armed as well
- record some Midi
- tinker around with it (quantize, copy/paste etc.)

- then e.g. render the audio track in realtime (the Render options window has to open)

Upon returning to the arrange window, I can't send any Midi to the outboard synths any longer. The curious thing is: the Midi input from my master keyboard still works, just the outputs are dead.
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cheers, i do use MIDI hardware & haven't experienced this, but it sounds a bit worrying.
i'll try it & see if i have the same results (but not until later - had my second vaccine yesterday & feel like shite atm)
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- then e.g. render the audio track in realtime (the Render options window has to open)
i normally just record the audio track - are you saying this is specific to an online render?
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Old 07-15-2021, 08:08 AM   #10
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i normally just record the audio track - are you saying this is specific to an online render?
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cheers, i do use MIDI hardware & haven't experienced this, but it sounds a bit worrying.
i'll try it & see if i have the same results (but not until later - had my second vaccine yesterday & feel like shite atm)
It definitely is worrying as I really can't use Reaper with my wonderful synths anymore (VL-1m, modded JX-3P, VFX, D-550 etc.). It's literally depressing, as I've tried workarounds and detours, to no avail. If there only was a way to diagnose the error, but as Reaper isn't crashing, I can't even provide a crash report.

Oh man, it's my 2nd vax turn in 2 weeks - while I'm thankful, I'm a little afraid of the side effects. So good luck to you, I hope you have enough Ibuprofens at home! Take care and thanks again!
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i've tried to reproduce but can't.
windows 7 & RME multiface & digiface for MIDI outs.

Do you have any scripts going on, or other things running etc?
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i've tried to reproduce but can't.
windows 7 & RME multiface & digiface for MIDI outs.

Do you have any scripts going on, or other things running etc?
Thanks so much!!!
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(Are the side effects better today?)
yeah, fine today, thanks.
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̵̵-̵ ̵R̵e̵a̵L̵e̵a̵r̵n̵̵
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Still the same issue. How to solve this? I go berzerk, I can tell you
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Reinstalled the interface driver, set everything up again. Now the behaviour in the "main" Reaper install is the same as described for the portable version. The outputs are lost after I jumped back in the ruler while Reaper was running.

Any takers?
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Monitored the Midi stream with a program called MidiView. While the reset messages are being sent as set up in the Midi Device Preferences, not a single note is transmitted.
At least it's confirmed a second time now that it's a Reaper problem, not a USB or driver issue. But WHAT, and WHERE to look??????????????????????
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F**k it. Still the same error.
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At the same time when the Midi outputs cease to transmit events, also the internal VSTi Midi becomes sloppy: notes are too late or aren't played at all.

Maybe another clue, devs?
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I'm having a similar issue. Just last week everything was working fine. Now all of the sudden, I can't get any MIDI out to hardware synths. I've tried my audio interface's MIDI Out jack, a USB-to-DIN adapter, and a synth with USB-MIDI.

When I first launch REAPER, I can open up a track routing panel and set the Hardware MIDI Output to the desired device. But no MIDI notes are actually being sent. If I go into Preferences->MIDI and hit Reset all MIDI Devices, then go back into the track routing panel, *all* MIDI Output devices are gone and it's just an empty list (except <no output>).

But in Preferences->MIDI, my output devices show up as Enabled or Enabled+Clock, etc, with no errors or warnings.

This happens with any project, or a brand new project.

Again, everything was working fine as recently as 8/19 (REAPER 6.33). I was setting up hardware outputs with no issues.

After running into issues today, I tried
- restarting REAPER
- restarting the computer
- updating REAPER to 6.34

No improvement.

The only thing that has changed on my computer since 8/19 is that I installed a Windows update today, something about .NET improvements. Could be related. I'm now on 21H1 build 19043.1165.
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Most likely you changes something in your settings (98% of the time it's that kind of problem) without knowing it. .

Also watch Kenny's Video, you may find one that will help you with this problem.

https://www.reaper.fm/videos.php


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Old 08-24-2021, 09:50 AM   #22
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Hi rncwalker, thanks for the response.


Are you aware of any setting which prevents tracks from sending MIDI out to hardware, even if it's set up in the track routing panel? And track armed, monitoring enabled, etc.
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MIDI need to be setup correctly in Reapers Preferences MIDI devices.
ARM Track and Set it to Record input (Audio or MIDI) and also set the MIDI input to the correct MIDI port.

The more I read over the post from 'beingmf' it may be that the midi is working correctly (Step 5), It may be the Audio!

What I would do is Remove everything and then slowly add things back.
1) get your keyboard to play a VST
2) Record a MIDI track
3) Check that the MIDI track will Play back to a VST instrument.
4) Check that the MIDI track will Play back to the Hardware synth.
Use the sound out of the hardware synth to headphones.

If the synth is sending sound back to Reaper, then that is another layer that needs to be configured correctly.

If everything works and then at the point it no-longer works, is where their is a problem, for example: step "3" works but does not work at step "4"
Step 4 is not getting any MIDI

if step "4" works but does not work at the next step "5" (5: audio being sent back to reaper).
Step 5 needs to be configured correctly.....do this one step at a time until you find the problem.


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Here is a video of the issue:
https://streamable.com/5ugqej

Notably, when I opened up the MIDI Out port in MIDIOX (just after recording the above video), I was able to send the synth notes from MIDIOX and hear them coming back through REAPER through the audio input.

I just can't send notes from REAPER anymore.
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Here is a video of the issue:
https://streamable.com/5ugqej

Notably, when I opened up the MIDI Out port in MIDIOX (just after recording the above video), I was able to send the synth notes from MIDIOX and hear them coming back through REAPER through the audio input.

I just can't send notes from REAPER anymore.
You have the Track Armed, you cannot record going out to your hardware synth.

Record a Midi track using your synth, then send it back after it's recorded to the synth, but un-arm the track.


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rncwalker,

It's actually not a requirement that a track has to be un-armed to send MIDI out. I've sent MIDI out from armed tracks many times -- for example, routing MIDI input from a USB keyboard, to a hardware synth, in real time.

In any case, the glaring issue I demonstrated in the video is that REAPER won't even let me select my device in the track I/O. Obviously it's impossible to send MIDI out to a device that doesn't even appear in the list, irrespective of any other setup I'm doing or not doing.
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Update (REAPER 6.36):

I still can't get REAPER to send MIDI out. The port opens fine in MIDI-OX, and I can send MIDI out from there, so it doesn't appear to be a windows MIDI driver issue.

I discovered that REAPER is holding on to the output port even when the device does not appear in the MIDI Hardware Output list in the track I/O panel. In other words, the following situations are true at the same time:


MIDI Output to synth enabled in preferences (MIDI input disabled for this demonstration)


The device doesn't appear in the track I/O panel list


Process explorer shows that REAPER indeed holds the ports to this device


MIDI-OX won't let me connect to the Skulpt's MIDI In (computer-out) port because REAPER is already connected to it.

It turns out that if I am in this situation and I then go to preferences and DISABLE the MIDI Output to the synth, REAPER *still* holds the ports and I can't connect with other applications.

In other words, REAPER appears to be unaware that it's connected to the device, and it's impossible to get it to relinquish that connection until I quit REAPER.

At that point, the port is freed up and I can connect with MIDI-OX and send MIDI output with no issues.

There are definitely some bugs in REAPER's MIDI output handling!

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MIDI-OX won't let me connect to the Skulpt's MIDI In (computer-out) port because REAPER is already connected to it.
As long as the driver is not multiclient, this won't work. BUT this workaround does indeed and finally work for me: MidiTrix. I created all the necessary virtual in and out ports and Reaper as well as SoundDiver only access their dedicated virtual devices.

This is what the MidiTrix window looks like:



And this is Reaper's Midi device preferences:



As you can hopefully see, only the gear which needs to be accessed from multiple programs uses the virtual ports. The outboard synths which aren't programmable via SoundDiver are connected directly to the Midex ports.

For some reason Bome Midi Translator, which was set up exactly that way, didn't work. We'll try to figure out the reason in the next days/weeks.

EDIT: first screenshot corrected
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