suggestions mix Rock

Dennis · 03-21-2021, 04:42 AM

Hello everyone. I would like some feedback on the sonic performance of this chorus. In particular, how could I improve the power guitar?
Thanks to those who want to give suggestions.
https://www.4shared.com/mp3/l5ETDf3V...new_corus.html

Dennis · 03-21-2021, 12:11 PM

2 cose :Either the power guitars are perfect or you don't want to answer

zeekat · 03-21-2021, 12:34 PM

Sound good to me, asymmetrical sounding (brighter tone in the left channel) but it will probably bother only symmetry freaks like me.

Coachz · 03-21-2021, 12:40 PM

where's the volume control on this page ? Guitars sound too soft and not distorted enough for my taste.

Dennis · 03-21-2021, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by zeekat

Sound good to me, asymmetrical sounding (brighter tone in the left channel) but it will probably bother only symmetry freaks like me.

Thanks for listening I will take into account the problem of symmetry

Dennis · 03-21-2021, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Coachz

where's the volume control on this page ? Guitars sound too soft and not distorted enough for my taste.

Thank you for listening. What do you suggest to make the guitars sound improve?

Coachz · 03-21-2021, 03:38 PM

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Thank you for listening. What do you suggest to make the guitars sound improve?

Run them through a Marshall amp

Dennis · 03-21-2021, 04:25 PM

Grazie! Coachz!Maybe I should change my pickups too and maybe take some EMG
How does the rest of the mix seem to you?

Coachz · 03-21-2021, 05:00 PM

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Grazie! Coachz!Maybe I should change my pickups too and maybe take some EMG
How does the rest of the mix seem to you?

I'll have to listen to it again. I prefer more classic rock pickups for a more AC/DC sound and not as over driven but that's just me.

I play JB in bridge and the jazz model in neck

https://www.seymourduncan.com/single-product/jb-model

A Marshall dsl40cr rocks nicely

Dennis · 03-22-2021, 01:27 AM

Much appreciated your Coachz suggestion

Coachz · 03-22-2021, 03:38 AM

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Much appreciated your Coachz suggestion

What mics do you have?

Also, do you have some reference tracks of a similar style you can compare your tracks to?

Dennis · 03-22-2021, 04:59 AM

I made this recording with Amplitube vst.
I wish I had a Halestorm type sound but I know it's pure science fiction for me!

Coachz · 03-22-2021, 10:37 AM

I just gave it another listen and I think you are on the right track. Whenever you ask for listens I would also try to find out what they are listening through. Here's it's KRK8's and a KRK 10 sub.

I love the chorus vocals. I would open the top more on them. I also prefer less kick in mixes and a bit more low on the bass. The chorus reminds me of Abba and that's a good thing. Would love to hear some crunching tube distorted guitar in the mix. The arpeggio guitar can come up a bit in the mix along with the guitar at the end. More highs on the snare to give it more snap too.

Way to go.

garanimals · 03-22-2021, 12:01 PM

Cool sounding song!

I agree with Coachz regarding the kick bass and snare.
I didn't have any issues with the guitars.

Dennis · 03-22-2021, 01:19 PM

Coachz Thank you very much for the advice and attentive listening, I will consider your suggestions.

Dennis · 03-22-2021, 01:20 PM

Garanimals Thank you very much.

Dennis · 03-23-2021, 05:27 AM

Sounds a little better now?
https://www.4shared.com/mp3/AkYDRe3I...ew_corus2.html

benf · 03-23-2021, 10:52 AM

Sounds better, for the bass and the kick, even if the kick is still a bit in front. But the guitar is sounding as if the guitarist is a big shy guy who is afraid to be heard. I understand you have to let the singer in front as it is actually, but this part of the song sounds like a hard-rock (don't know what's before and after) and where is the guitar ?
The balance I'm thinking of is here at 1'10 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avQN...ZSqrpa&index=6

Dennis · 03-23-2021, 01:51 PM

Thanks Benf.
Those 1.10 guitars are just what I want to achieve.
Do you think it is enough in my song to raise the volume?

Coachz · 03-23-2021, 05:26 PM

Dude, you totally nailed it. Went from a 5 to a 10. Excellent job.

Dennis · 03-24-2021, 01:29 AM

Thanks Coachz !!! Have the guitars improved too?

Coachz · 03-24-2021, 04:29 AM

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Thanks Coachz !!! Have the guitars improved too?

Absolutely

benf · 03-24-2021, 04:32 AM

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Thanks Benf.
Those 1.10 guitars are just what I want to achieve.
Do you think it is enough in my song to raise the volume?

Reno from the french forum is the drummer of that band and he's the guy who made the mix and very good at that. You should MP him for advices.

Dennis · 03-24-2021, 05:01 AM

Tanks very much Benf!

Pink Wool · 03-24-2021, 05:44 AM

Nice snippet!
My 2 cents:
Kick is way too loud and the snare is too dark (even on mix 2). Guitars need to be way louder and in front.

Dennis · 03-24-2021, 06:36 AM

Thanks Pink Wool
Guitars louder and also more distorted?
Should I increase the snare drum on which frequency?

Coachz · 03-24-2021, 09:27 AM

Find a few of your favorite songs in that genre that have the very best mixes that you regard highly and use those as your references. It's much easier to get the sound you want when you know the sound you want

Dennis · 03-24-2021, 01:43 PM

Coachz I have in mind and in my ears the sound of power chord guitars and I can almost get it without the other instruments around

Coachz · 03-24-2021, 02:51 PM

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Coachz I have in mind and in my ears the sound of power chord guitars and I can almost get it without the other instruments around

You're doing great. Rock on.

Dennis · 03-24-2021, 05:26 PM

Thank's so much Coachz!

Pink Wool · 03-24-2021, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis

Thanks Pink Wool
Guitars louder and also more distorted?
Should I increase the snare drum on which frequency?

Coachz · 03-25-2021, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pink Wool

Nice snippet!
My 2 cents:
Kick is way too loud and the snare is too dark (even on mix 2). Guitars need to be way louder and in front.

Are you listening to his first upload or his second version? And what are you monitoring through please

Pink Wool · 03-25-2021, 05:09 AM

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Are you listening to his first upload or his second version? And what are you monitoring through please

The second one. I'm monitoring this through the monitors I always use to mix.

Why? Is it that you disagree with my thoughts?

Coachz · 03-25-2021, 06:02 AM

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The second one. I'm monitoring this through the monitors I always use to mix.

Why? Is it that you disagree with my thoughts?

Your opinions are definitely valid. What monitors are you using?

Dennis · 03-25-2021, 06:13 AM

Thanks Pink for graphic eq.For guitars do I know moving away or getting closer? I generally preferred the latest version before this one.

https://www.4shared.com/mp3/cvdDvfAT...orus2new2.html

benf · 03-25-2021, 09:38 AM

This version is much better for me. Bass, kick and snare are right thanks Coachz. Maybe increase a bit the low mid on the guitar to make it louder and put it a bit in front, but for me you nearly got it.

Coachz · 03-25-2021, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by benf

This version is much better for me. Bass, kick and snare are right thanks Coachz. Maybe increase a bit the low mid on the guitar to make it louder and put it a bit in front, but for me you nearly got it.

I agree with your guitar suggestion too.

Dennis · 03-25-2021, 01:33 PM

Coachz & Benf. I tried as you suggested to increase the mid-bass to the guitars but it seems to me that then kick and bass recede.
looks muddy now.

https://www.4shared.com/mp3/n0b8PTqY...ersion_II.html

Coachz · 03-25-2021, 03:59 PM

I'm not where I can check it out right now but do keep in mind that many of these EQ tweaks are on the order of a half to 2 db

Dennis · 03-26-2021, 03:18 AM

Ok Coachz wait

Thank you very much