Show-Hide Stretch Marker Selected Item

[MaestroS]

Friends! I think the ""Show-Hide (Visible) Stretch Marker Selected Item"" function would be very useful in Reaper. What do you think? Is it possible?

[jrengmusic]

How would you know whether an item was edited with stretch markers if it was hidden?

[mpl]

You can make them more transparent in theme settings.

[MaestroS]

I think it's impossible to hide this at the level of software codes. It's a pity

[Miul]

any other daw does it

[Stevie]

yeah, it's hard to deal with stretch markers and item-envelopes in the same time. something needs to be done

[Gianfini]

yes ++1

[ayskura]

Originally Posted by jrengmusic

How would you know whether an item was edited with stretch markers if it was hidden?

maybe with an icon in the item? but definitively they are distracting when not in use...

[ayskura]

Originally Posted by mpl

You can make them more transparent in theme settings.

how to do this?

[ayskura]

Originally Posted by MaestroS

Friends! I think the ""Show-Hide (Visible) Stretch Marker Selected Item"" function would be very useful in Reaper. What do you think? Is it possible?

yes please!

[Dafarkias]

Not ideal:

I wrote a script that jumps back and forth from stretch marker transparency of %100 to %0 using a toggle-button/toolbar. It's global though, not just for select items.

It's pretty easy... You just create a duplicate of whatever theme you are using, adjust the stretch marker transparency to %0 in one of them, and then the script simply toggles between the two.

That's also how I created my script where whenever looping is enabled, the looping time-selection is light, and dark when it is disabled.

Looks something a little like this:

  local loopState = reaper.GetSetRepeat(-1)
  
  if reaper.GetToggleCommandState( reaper.NamedCommandLookup("_S&M_CYCLACTION_1")) == 1 then loopState = loopState + 2 end
  
    if loopState == 0 and loopState ~= currentTheme 
  then
    themeFile = reaper.GetExePath() .. "\\" .. "ColorThemes" .. "\\" .. "Loop-OFF; SM-ON.ReaperTheme"
    reaper.OpenColorThemeFile(themeFile)
    currentTheme = loopState
  end 
  
    if loopState == 1 and loopState ~= currentTheme 
  then
    themeFile = reaper.GetExePath() .. "\\" .. "ColorThemes" .. "\\" .. "Loop-ON; SM-ON.ReaperTheme"
    reaper.OpenColorThemeFile(themeFile)
    currentTheme = loopState
  end

[svijayrathinam]

Originally Posted by Dafarkias

Not ideal:

I wrote a script that jumps back and forth from stretch marker transparency of %100 to %0 using a toggle-button/toolbar. It's global though, not just for select items.

It's pretty easy... You just create a duplicate of whatever theme you are using, adjust the stretch marker transparency to %0 in one of them, and then the script simply toggles between the two.

That's also how I created my script where whenever looping is enabled, the looping time-selection is light, and dark when it is disabled.

Looks something a little like this:

  local loopState = reaper.GetSetRepeat(-1)
  
  if reaper.GetToggleCommandState( reaper.NamedCommandLookup("_S&M_CYCLACTION_1")) == 1 then loopState = loopState + 2 end
  
    if loopState == 0 and loopState ~= currentTheme 
  then
    themeFile = reaper.GetExePath() .. "\\" .. "ColorThemes" .. "\\" .. "Loop-OFF; SM-ON.ReaperTheme"
    reaper.OpenColorThemeFile(themeFile)
    currentTheme = loopState
  end 
  
    if loopState == 1 and loopState ~= currentTheme 
  then
    themeFile = reaper.GetExePath() .. "\\" .. "ColorThemes" .. "\\" .. "Loop-ON; SM-ON.ReaperTheme"
    reaper.OpenColorThemeFile(themeFile)
    currentTheme = loopState
  end

This is a good idea but not practical for me mainly because if i make some changes in my theme I would then have to make the changes in the other theme too..So its not ideal..But a good workaround nevertheless.

I would really like the Devs to provide this feature natively as its mentioned above working with take envelopes when stretch markers visible is really cumbersome

[Infrabass]

+1 !!
Between stretch markers, take envelopes & now take markers it can becomes very difficult to see even a tad of the waveform.

Your tweak is cool Dafarkias but the handles are still there so the mouse still grab them and it becomes even more confusing.

I wonder why Cockos choose this way of displaying items infos.
Having some operation modes in the arrange view, I think, is a better way of working.

For exemple, with a key toggle you enter and leave a stretch markers mode where every items in the sessions are displaying/hidding any stretch markers edits.
Same for take envelopes.
Same for take markers.

[Dafarkias]

I agree.

In my opinion the best and most logical solution for this problem would be for stretch markers to be displayed as automation item data, along with track volume, pan, etc.

Not only would that be graphically more customizable (you could show/hide stretch markers) but you could also apply real-time timewarps to tracks and busses via simply copying & pasting automation data.

[Dafarkias]

I've already brought this up before but I can't remember if I created a feature request for it. If I did it probably didn't get any support as stretch markers don't seem to be widely used or have a very zealous fan base

[Markcastle_]

+1

[fourdogslong]

+1, right now quantizing live drums make the waveforms super crowded and distracting.

[fourdogslong]

If anyone else doesn't like to see all those markers, lines and stuff, I figured a way to make them less distracting. It works for me, might be worth a try for someone else.

In the Theme development/tweaker, search for "stretch", 7 results will appear.

By putting the blend mode to Dodge 0.30 and making the 2 first results (media item stretch marker line and media item stretch marker handle (1x)) black, I was able to get a much more subtle look. The black value make the lines disappear, which I prefer.

I made the next 3 results light gray (192, 192, 192), and the stretch marker text dark gray (128, 128, 128).

I feel this is visible enough to work (for my taste and eyes) but you can play with different blend values to match your preference.

Then, if I want to make the stretch markers even less apparent, I can lock the stretch markers, using the action Lock stretch markers (you can asign that to a shortcut or put it in a toolbar) and the stretch marker text disappears and the stretch markers themselves become even more transparent. When zoomed they are barely visible.

I made two screenshot that show how it looks, they had to be resized to upload them here but hopefully you can see enough to get an idea of how it looks.
I hope this is useful to someone.

[Garrick]

Totally +1

You could put your button here



And it lights up if there are stretch markers in that item