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Old 01-02-2016, 07:20 PM   #1
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Default Where did you get all your mixing/recOrding info from?

Anybody wanna share which YouTube channel they get the most education and info about recording and gear....For me it's these three guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=862flaf857A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpsKp-vdBLY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sElvIdrPTwY
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Old 01-03-2016, 03:14 AM   #2
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Some I've found helpful (entertaining):

Mixbus https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0z...SBt1GxHQ6N1_mg

Pensado's Place ITL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO4AMuChHDs

Recording Revolution: http://therecordingrevolution.com/

And of course The Reaper Blog: https://www.youtube.com/user/audiogeekzine
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Old 01-03-2016, 05:56 AM   #3
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This is a gold mine, and totally transformed how I approach mixing. Introduced whole new ways of looking at things. Written by Geoffrey Francis, who in his spare time has also been unbelievably gracious enough to give us the Reaper User Guide.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/geoffrey-fr...t-6526524.html

I bought a hard copy, and always keep it around. Outstanding return on investment; I noticed an improvement in the amount of power and control I had to shape my mixes almost immediately.
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:52 AM   #4
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Bought a four speed phillips stereo recorder in 1961.
Made a mono two track recording of my band at the time in an upstairs room in a Cambridge pub in 1962
Me on bass. Recorder belonged to a chap who later formed Granta records.
Downhill all the way from there in!


But most of the meaningful stuff I picked up from working in pro studios later on.
Pure gold and sadly not a source of information available to may folks starting out these days.
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Old 01-03-2016, 08:31 AM   #5
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I also have done bif wheel recorders, portastudio, sound on sound etc.
Never liked the mixing part until the VST era.
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Old 01-03-2016, 09:04 AM   #6
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Indeed don't ever underestimate practice and experience, and getting it wrong.


Going on YouTube (to me) is akin to having all the 'driver aids' on in a racing game. except of course for the hugely educational video I did recently. Hahaa.
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Old 01-03-2016, 09:22 AM   #7
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Indeed don't ever underestimate practice and experience, and getting it wrong.


Going on YouTube (to me) is akin to having all the 'driver aids' on in a racing game. except of course for the hugely educational video I did recently. Hahaa.
Lol. To me it's a bit like going to school to learn how to read....
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Old 01-03-2016, 09:30 AM   #8
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Lol. To me it's a bit like going to school to learn how to read....
(Watching a video) about music is like dancing about architecture..

To butcher a famous quote!

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Being serious, my point i guess is it can lead to the illusion of attained knowledge, but in practice your sense of when to use a technique or when to modify it or ignore that 'rule' is key to making good decisions, and you only learn that by doing it, doing it wrong, learning from any mistakes, going again, getting it right.

But I'm getting old so ignore me. Go nuts !
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Old 01-03-2016, 10:12 AM   #9
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This is a gold mine, and totally transformed how I approach mixing. Introduced whole new ways of looking at things. Written by Geoffrey Francis, who in his spare time has also been unbelievably gracious enough to give us the Reaper User Guide.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/geoffrey-fr...t-6526524.html

I bought a hard copy, and always keep it around. Outstanding return on investment; I noticed an improvement in the amount of power and control I had to shape my mixes almost immediately.
Agreed!
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Old 01-03-2016, 10:14 AM   #10
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Being serious, my point i guess is it can lead to the illusion of attained knowledge, but in practice your sense of when to use a technique or when to modify it or ignore that 'rule' is key to making good decisions, and you only learn that by doing it, doing it wrong, learning from any mistakes, going again, getting it right.

But I'm getting old so ignore me. Go nuts !
I think you're right. Videos can only give you things to play with and practice, they can't "make you better" any more than watching piano tutorials will improve your playing.

They can be good for technical pointers and explanations, but ear training is a looooooong process. It's visceral, not academic. Watching Swan Lake doesn't improve your plié, and Jackie Chan films don't improve your Kung Fu.

So, I think videos can be great in showing you how things work (although, being old fashioned myself, I still prefer a good ol' fashioned paper manual for that), but it is an impossible task for a video to show you how to use those tools. Without knowing what you've got to work with, and what you want it to sound like after you've mangled it, no-one can show you what to do to achieve your desired result.
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Old 01-03-2016, 10:27 AM   #11
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Yes.
am Discovering that at the Mo with the 'heel and toe' gear change driving technique (I was curious as a race fan).

I saw a couple of vids, so know what to do, could describe it to you convincingly, but in the car its mostly a brake juddering kak-fest at the moment until the idea sinks into my brain and it figures it out mentally and physically, which only happens through experiential learning.

BUT having gone through these kinds of learning curves hundreds of times via the music world I know that sticking At it and not expecting too much too soon I will get the hang of it.
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Old 01-03-2016, 11:10 AM   #12
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1) Messing around with reels and cassettes when I was a kid.

2) Majored in audio production at college, recorded bands in the school studio

3) Internship at a recording studio

4) I'm a musician, so I collaborated with other musicians, and among other things, booked time at studios. Watch and learn.

5) Experience. This is where I learned the most.
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Old 01-03-2016, 11:22 AM   #13
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School and then all over the web.

Right now the one i like the most is
Mixing with Mike On youtube.

I see a lot of people doing tutorials and sharing their knowledge which is very cool but even the most viewed ones happen to put out poorly sounding mixes. So take it for what it is and use reference mixes you like while mixing and not just what popular people are putting out.

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Old 01-03-2016, 11:46 AM   #14
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Had one of those small (actually would be called 'large' today) portable cassette recorder thingies. Mono rectangular box top loader with the piano keys. I remember torturing parents with it at around 5 or 6 years old.

Things took off from there... It really helped that I had the serendipitous experience of digital audio coming to be and equipment becoming (not cheap but) approachably affordable as time moved on. Like the ADAT coming along right at the point I was ready to get into multitracking. Then the early version of Protools opened up nonlinear editing on the computer screen. (No more punishing the ADAT transports!) Then 24 bit converters and HD sample rates and suddenly that 2" tape deck that was out of reach was obsolete. You could just record without the 'pillow in front of the speaker' effect now.

Used to be that the only option if you weren't independently rich enough to build a studio was to go for an internship and pray one of the coveted engineer positions opened up one day.

After getting proficient (IMHO) at recording, running live sound, and studio post production mixing was the point I got comfortable. I'd recommend approaching all 3 of those areas and tying everything together like that to everyone.

And now we have this awesome "swill army knife" for audio with Reaper that handles everything from live sound production to studio work and even live performance!


So... self taught and probably done many things the hard way before the days of Youtube videos! Looks like a minefield out there... Lots of good information shared but then there are weirdos telling you stuff like "HD audio is all bs and nothing can possible sound any better than mp3! I can prove it with A/B tests on these laptop speakers! Oh, but my vinyl albums on this cheap DJ turntable still sound better of course!"

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