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04-26-2018, 01:44 PM
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Panning an effected snare in Addictive Drums?
First off, I searched the forum for this, but while I found some stuff on how to send different drums to other channels, that's not what I need. I have a drum track in AD that uses AD's distortion effects; fine. I want to put an autopanner (I have several VSTs that do this) on just the snare drum, but I want to keep the distortion that AD is adding to it.
Can I do this? Usually I don't get involved in stuff like this, so please excuse if this makes no sense; usually I just record audio and very basic midi stuff - this is over my head.
A really kludgy workaround would be to delete every beat in the track that is not the snare, make a stem from that, then restore the track and delete all the snares, then route the snare stem to the autopanner. Whew. But then you can't edit the track.
EDIT: at least that works. I'm going that way for now.
Last edited by Tyrannocaster; 04-26-2018 at 02:45 PM.
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04-26-2018, 04:28 PM
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Why not have AD2 on two tracks, playing the same groove. In the AD2 mixer on Track 1, Mute the Snare. On Track 2, Solo the snare. Autopan Track 2 and route both to a Drum buss. Then...
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04-26-2018, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyrannocaster
Can I do this?
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Yes, easily. The Seperate Outs in Addictive Drums are post-fx.
To use them click on the little arrow icon on the respective mixer-channel within AD.
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04-26-2018, 05:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Yes, easily. The Seperate Outs in Addictive Drums are post-fx.
To use them click on the little arrow icon on the respective mixer-channel within AD.
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Okay, this sounds great, but I can't figure it how to make it work. That's where I started, before I posted this. Is there maybe a video that demonstrates this?
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04-26-2018, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMaartian
Why not have AD2 on two tracks, playing the same groove. In the AD2 mixer on Track 1, Mute the Snare. On Track 2, Solo the snare. Autopan Track 2 and route both to a Drum buss. Then...
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Because I have found that having two instances of a drum VST on the same track tends to make Reaper crash. If it didn't do that, I'd be behind you 100 per cent.
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04-27-2018, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyrannocaster
Okay, this sounds great, but I can't figure it how to make it work. That's where I started, before I posted this. Is there maybe a video that demonstrates this?
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Yes, there are actually loads of Videosabotu this on Youtube...
however when going through a few of them I didn't find one of which I thought it was nearly concise and to the point.
So here's what to do (the following is assuming that Reaper did not built the multi-out routing manually for you - when adding Addictive Drums it asks you about this):
- on the right top of the AD Window, it says "2/18 out". Click on this button.
- Click on the little + in the lower left corner of the "Plug-in pin connector" so that it says "4/18 out".
- Remove the seperate "Kick"-Routing by clicking on the Little black rectangle
- Close the "Plug-in pin connector".
- add a track (and call it "Snare" or whatever if you want to)
- On its track-header click on the Routing-Icon (right from the panning knob)
- On the "Routing for track" window add a new receive (lower left of the window) from "Addictive Drums 2". Make it "mono source" -> "4"
(Click on the Little arrow right from "Audio" - "1/2" - afterwards it will say "4" instead of "1/2")
That's it basically.
Last edited by jens; 04-27-2018 at 12:20 AM.
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04-27-2018, 06:31 AM
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I guess I'd better look at those YouTube videos. I tried your method, but I'm not getting any audio output on the new channel. Obviously, I've done something incorrectly, but it's just going to be too hard to try to debug it with forum posts. Does it matter that my routing matrix shows 2/16 and not 2/18?
EDIT: I found a video that explains exactly how to do what I want, but he's using AD 2 and mine is 1.0; I actually installed 2.0 but removed it because of the increased system load it imposed on my computer without giving me much in return, but I don't have the ability to chose Post Fader FX from the little down arrow via mouse menu like he does. I also looked at the Kenny Gioia video on this, but when I make the new tracks like he does, I don't get any of the AD effects and I need those because it's one of the distorted kits; I can't use the clean kit and I can't figure out how to get a post-FX track.
Maybe this can't be done in 1.0.
Last edited by Tyrannocaster; 04-27-2018 at 10:17 AM.
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04-27-2018, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrannocaster
I tried your method, but I'm not getting any audio output on the new channel.
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Then please look again at my first reply in this thread. It goes without saying that you have to do this too (route the channel to its individual outout within AD2)
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04-27-2018, 03:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Then please look again at my first reply in this thread. It goes without saying that you have to do this too (route the channel to its individual outout within AD2)
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You don't get it. When I follow your directions EXACTLY, I don't get audio output. Telling me to reread your post isn't going to help.
Thanks anyway. I'll either work it out on my own or not.
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04-27-2018, 05:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrannocaster
You don't get it. When I follow your directions EXACTLY, I don't get audio output. Telling me to reread your post isn't going to help.
Thanks anyway. I'll either work it out on my own or not.
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Either you don't understand audio routing in REAPER or don't understand the signal chain in AD or the plugin isn't working correctly.
left of the channel fader, bottom most button. Click the icon with the arrow that clearly has the word "OUT" written underneath it.
The snare in AD is channel 4. route channel 4 from the track with the plugin to another track. (Make sure the track with the plugin is multichannel. click the routing button, get familiar with the controls)
that's pretty much it. Once you do it once, you'll get it.
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04-27-2018, 08:08 PM
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I don't want to insult the OP, but what James HE says is spot-on.
I've been doing multi-channel output from AD and AD2 for years, and once you know how to do it, it just works.
I wonder if perhaps you aren't routing the snare channel back to a channel that is playing on the master output. For example, if your master track is only playing channels 1 and 2, and you have set up outputs from AD for:
AD Master (L) = Track 1, channel 1
AD Master (R) = Track 1, channel 2
AD Snare = Track 1, channel 4
you need to then route the snare from Track 1 channel 4 to channel 1 and 2 on another track and send that track to the master output. For example:
AD Master (L) = Track 1, channel 1
AD Master (R) = Track 1, channel 2
AD Snare = Track 1, channel 4 => Track 2, channel 1&2
Hope this helps!
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Last edited by lunker; 04-30-2018 at 08:39 AM.
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04-30-2018, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrannocaster
Telling me to reread your post isn't going to help.
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Sorry for potentially sounding snarky, but the only unknown factor here is your reading comprehension skill.
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