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Old 01-30-2019, 07:19 AM   #1
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Default Video plays fine in VLC, but has artifacts in reaper

This is the video file in question

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XOd...ew?usp=sharing

OUTPUT from video file item properties

Length: 0:33.116
Video: 720x405@23.98fps, Aspect=1.00, Decoding format=I420/YV12
Audio: 44100Hz 2ch 16bps

Using VLC decoder (v3.0.x)
Video: 720x405, h264, 23.98fps
Audio: 44100hz, 16bps, 2ch, ima4

Loaded from: C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC


I've tried disabling the color space options and changing the output, but nothing helps.
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Old 01-30-2019, 08:03 AM   #2
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I used to rage about lag and artifacts when I was working on a movie soundtrack, but I just dealt with it. Its probably your computer’s CPU. The computer I use has a slow processor, and struggles very badly with intense projects in reaper, it gets very framey when I work with both audio and video in reaper, and I hear artifacts when working in other programs too. Although it also could be your GPU. You should read info online about your CPU and GPU.

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Old 01-30-2019, 09:19 AM   #3
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can you describe the issue more than "has artifacts in reaper"

like a screenshot of the glitch or whatever it is
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Old 01-30-2019, 09:35 AM   #4
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Although it also could be your GPU. You should read info online about your CPU and GPU.
Reaper doesn't use the GPU. It renders in software only.
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Old 02-01-2019, 12:15 PM   #5
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can you describe the issue more than "has artifacts in reaper"

like a screenshot of the glitch or whatever it is

The video looks a bit like the colors don't line up. Like when you're trying to print something with a bubble jet printer and there's an offset between each color. I've tried reset preferences / clear cache in vlc as well, but no luck. This video used to work in an older version of reaper (it's an old project) using vlc 2.x.x but I don't know the exacts.
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Old 02-03-2019, 06:04 AM   #6
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Okay here's the screenshot. First one is VLC, second one is reaper. Same frame at 00:15



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Old 02-03-2019, 07:17 AM   #7
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It seems this is something for Justin as he was fixing some problems with multiples of 4 and 8 in height and width while decoding.

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Old 02-03-2019, 08:29 PM   #8
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It seems this is something for Justin as he was fixing some problems with multiples of 4 and 8 in height and width while decoding.

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While he's at it, it would be super cool to get some of that handbrake magic worked into reaper's video rendering.
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Old 02-03-2019, 09:02 PM   #9
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I just tested on 5.966pre2 and the problem is still there as well.
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Hm, have no idea how this else could be fixed.

Edit: I just read the VLC output warnings and errors and it seems that your video has a wrong resolution for the decoder.

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direct3d9 warning: Disabling hardware chroma conversion due to odd dimensions
direct3d9 warning: trying surface pixel format: DXA9
So VLC tries to compensate the error but Reaper does not. And as I remember right, handbrake doesn't let you render/encode with wrong dimensions. That could be the reason why videos rendered with handbrake will play mostly smoothly with any decoders.

Your video resolution is 720x405. Its common sense that the dimensions always should be dividable thru 4 or 8 but at least thru 2. 405 pixel of height isn't an even number so that's what makes the trouble.

Solutions: Ask for a better source or change the dimension by re-encoding to a lossless format by cutting off 1 or 5 pixel at the bottom of the frame.

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Old 02-05-2019, 08:31 PM   #11
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Hm, have no idea how this else could be fixed.

Edit: I just read the VLC output warnings and errors and it seems that your video has a wrong resolution for the decoder.

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direct3d9 warning: Disabling hardware chroma conversion due to odd dimensions
direct3d9 warning: trying surface pixel format: DXA9
So VLC tries to compensate the error but Reaper does not. And as I remember right, handbrake doesn't let you render/encode with wrong dimensions. That could be the reason why videos rendered with handbrake will play mostly smoothly with any decoders.

Your video resolution is 720x405. Its common sense that the dimensions always should be dividable thru 4 or 8 but at least thru 2. 405 pixel of height isn't an even number so that's what makes the trouble.

Solutions: Ask for a better source or change the dimension by re-encoding to a lossless format by cutting off 1 or 5 pixel at the bottom of the frame.

Greetings
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I hear where you're coming from, but this should still be fixed. A good DAW should not be one that whines about resolutions. VLC does it correctly so should reaper (especially when it used to work in an older version). Thank you for investigating though, I'll use your fix for now.
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Thanks, fixing!
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Default reduced resolution on a clean track (Version 6.04)

I suppose this might have a different cause, but I am posting it here because the result is very similar: graphic corruption. And this time, the video size is perfectly standard (1920x1080), both in source and target:

I just found out that the *automated parameters* of the video processor (like zoom and pan) leak through to the tracks "below": I had a video track for still images that I panned over from left to right, and so the pictures are zoomed in to about 50% of the original size.
It took me ages to figure out why the video track below did not show (and render) its full resolution (see images). It seems that the video was scaled down and back up again - without filters! - , creating nasty jagged outlines. Re-importing the same video on this track for a second time even resulted in a zoom factor that I had not set on this track or item. This is when it dawned on me that it must be the parameters from the picture track above seeping through to my video track.
So when I finally put the video track *above* the picture track, the problem disappeared and the video footage displayed (and rendered) correctly.

I strongly suspect this to be a coding error in the video processor. Or am I missing something obvious here? Help would be greatly appreciated.
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