Old 03-22-2016, 12:25 PM   #1
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I routinely need to record 3 tracks at once(stereo + DI(just in case the stereo is fubar)). While it would be nice if reaper could support recording an odd number of tracks > 1 as it does for even multi-channel recording, the solution I've come up with is to record the 3rd track as a mono track then group the items. (This is to make sure they are always in sync)

Is it possible to use track grouping to add something like: "Auto group track items when recording"? Which basically would groups simultaneously recorded items without having to do it manually.

Maybe there is a better way?
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Old 03-22-2016, 12:47 PM   #2
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SWS: Auto group newly recorded items

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Old 03-22-2016, 02:41 PM   #3
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SWS: Auto group newly recorded items

toggle it on
This is global behavior? That is, do I have to remember to toggle it when I want disjoint sets of tracks to behave differently? I'm a bit too stupid to remember when it is grouped or not ;/ I also flip the beat a round sometimes ;/
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Old 11-07-2018, 09:32 PM   #4
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So does anyone know where this feature went in SWS? I am using 2.9.7 but I don't see "Auto group newly recorded items" in my drop down. Any ideas?

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Old 12-08-2019, 03:16 PM   #5
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So there is still no way to do that? A script which checks if the tracks of the recorded items are grouped and then groups the items as well?
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Old 12-08-2019, 03:48 PM   #6
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So there is still no way to do that? A script which checks if the tracks of the recorded items are grouped and then groups the items as well?
There might be. Sounds like a useful idea.

The SWS action doesn't follow track grouping. Items recorded together as multitrack are item-grouped. You have to have it enabled before you hit record.
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:27 AM   #7
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There might be. Sounds like a useful idea.

The SWS action doesn't follow track grouping. Items recorded together as multitrack are item-grouped. You have to have it enabled before you hit record.
Yeah the thing is you always have to think about enabling/disabling that option before recording, its not a "set and forget" scenario...
There are other things an engineer has to think about during recording, so thats not good.
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Yeah the thing is you always have to think about enabling/disabling that option before recording, its not a "set and forget" scenario...
There are other things an engineer has to think about during recording, so thats not good.
My question then is: What do you do that requires you to turn it off?

I just leave it on. So... apparently I never want to record multitrack and NOT have the recorded items grouped. If you do, then you'll just have to toggle it on/off as applies like any other feature you sometimes use and sometimes not.
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My question then is: What do you do that requires you to turn it off?

I just leave it on. So... apparently I never want to record multitrack and NOT have the recorded items grouped. If you do, then you'll just have to toggle it on/off as applies like any other feature you sometimes use and sometimes not.
While thats true what you are saying, I need multitrack recordings to be grouped by default, but not in the same group. Lets say I record an entire band simultaneously recording 2 guitar tracks, 1 vocal track, 10 drum tracks and 2 bass tracks.

Each section bass/guitar/vocals/drums, should be grouped separately, not in the same group, so when it comes to editing I can edit each section independently.

Thats why I asked if there is a way to group recorded items automatically if the respective tracks are grouped.
Hope that clears it up!
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Your feature request is more than valid and that's a great example.
I was just trying to explain the current SWS feature for good or bad.
I wonder if someone has a script for that though.
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I wonder if someone has a script for that though.
I've read somewhere in this forum that grouping items and grouping tracks are two completely different operations and therefore cannot interact with each other...

But I don't really believe that...
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I've read somewhere in this forum that grouping items and grouping tracks are two completely different operations and therefore cannot interact with each other...

But I don't really believe that...
They are different operations. Those operations are what they are but there isn't any underlying thing in Reaper that actively disables doing something. Like preventing any interaction between looking at a track group and items in said tracks and grouping them. They're all Reaper functions and you can use them as you please.

Anyway, feels like something that someone might have already done. No one has popped in and volunteered yet though... Might have to roll up your sleeves.
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Definitely a good idea. I've been looking for this for ages.
Would make life so much easier.
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Old 12-12-2019, 01:41 PM   #14
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Definitely a good idea. I've been looking for this for ages.
Would make life so much easier.
Yeah its interesting that this is not "standard". Other DAWs I worked in had that feature already years/decades ago.
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A big +1 on this, it's one of the few things I think Reaper lacks that other DAWs have. There should be an additional checkbox in the Grouping window to group Items as well! Seems simple enough, but I know nothing about coding :-)

What would really be great is the above option for grouping items in track groups, but keep the 'auto group newly recorded items' function as well, so this could be toggled on and off as a separate way to deal with edits across everything on a recorded pass... 🤔
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A big +1 on this, it's one of the few things I think Reaper lacks that other DAWs have. There should be an additional checkbox in the Grouping window to group Items as well! Seems simple enough, but I know nothing about coding :-)

What would really be great is the above option for grouping items in track groups, but keep the 'auto group newly recorded items' function as well, so this could be toggled on and off as a separate way to deal with edits across everything on a recorded pass... 🤔
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A big +1 on this, it's one of the few things I think Reaper lacks that other DAWs have. There should be an additional checkbox in the Grouping window to group Items as well! Seems simple enough, but I know nothing about coding :-)

What would really be great is the above option for grouping items in track groups, but keep the 'auto group newly recorded items' function as well, so this could be toggled on and off as a separate way to deal with edits across everything on a recorded pass... ��
I think REAPER just lacks Actions and Mouse Modifiers to operate on selected items - ignoring grouping
Right now you only have the option to either operate und all grouped items or only one.
I want to be able to operate only on the selected items of a group.

E.g. There is "Split items at edit or play cursor (ignoring grouping)"
but no "split items at time selection (ignoring grouping)"
And "Split selected items at time selection or edit/play cursor (ignoring grouping)" would be my preferred Action to use on Ctrl+Shift+S

There is also only the Mouse modifier option "... ignoring selection/grouping"
we need "... ignoring grouping"

Yes, I can always turn off grouping completely for this.
But often these kinds of edits are done spontaneously, so I have to disable grouping => make the edit => enable grouping again and end up doing that really often, instead of just holding a modifier.

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