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04-24-2017, 11:31 AM
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Online render regions messes up beginning
When doing an analog mix bus chain with rea insert and using the render region matrix, the first region rendered is ok, but the following ones are getting dropouts (stuttering buffer issue) in the beginning of the render as if reaper has to catch up with the processing.
This does not happen when rendering regions one by one is a render que.
Maybe not a bug per se, but it would be great if this can be solved to work as intended.
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05-18-2017, 10:37 PM
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A little update on this.
Even when ReaInsert is bypassed, meaning a completely ITB mix this still happens. Its as if the reaper doesnt buffer the start of the render properly from Region #2 and onwards. Again during ONLINE rendering.
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05-31-2017, 01:53 PM
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Would be GREAT if this would be fixed.
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05-31-2017, 05:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlprod
A little update on this.
Even when ReaInsert is bypassed, meaning a completely ITB mix this still happens. Its as if the reaper doesnt buffer the start of the render properly from Region #2 and onwards. Again during ONLINE rendering.
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What are you rendering mlprod? Midi, audio?
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06-01-2017, 12:58 AM
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Audio!
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09-10-2017, 01:44 PM
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bump on this!
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09-17-2017, 10:32 AM
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Bump for devs to check this for 5.60.
Again the first region is always fine, 2nd and onwards not.
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09-21-2017, 06:12 AM
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I just encountered this as well ;-(
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09-21-2017, 06:17 AM
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Any samples involved? In the render dialog there is..
"Delay queued render to allow samples to load"
Maybe make sure that is checked.
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09-22-2017, 11:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by karbomusic
Any samples involved? In the render dialog there is..
"Delay queued render to allow samples to load"
Maybe make sure that is checked.
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This doesnt help since it's not a queued render that's the issue, but region renders. The current work around for me is actually to cue up the regions one by one, which does work ok, but is tedious and a time waster.
I guess this is some sort of bug because if the first region works fine, the rest should work equally well.
I should add that this is a bigger problem for me when having big mix projects, AND reainserts for hardware running live. (hence the online render)
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09-22-2017, 11:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlprod
This doesnt help since it's not a queued render that's the issue, but region renders.
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Looks like I misread this part...
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This does not happen when rendering regions one by one is a render que.
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I do remember an issue I intermittently have with regions where one region will drop part of the render but I forget the details - however, I'm almost sure in my case it was a queued render.
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09-25-2017, 02:03 PM
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Bump for an 5.60 fix for this!=)
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09-27-2017, 01:20 PM
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bump on this.
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10-24-2017, 04:18 AM
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Another update. This happens whenever I have a quite big project with lots of plugins. I have tried almost all types of settings int he buffering prefs, nothing helps.
Might be a PDC issue?
When reaper jumps to region #2 to be rendered it starts immediately, this to me seems weird and maybe the reason why this is happning. It seems like reaper doesn't buffer what it needs before starting playback/render, which happens when just playing normally in the project.
Maybe time for a sort of pre-roll delay option for online renders to prevent this from happning?
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12-13-2017, 05:33 AM
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Justin/Schwa, any chance to look at this now?
Is it maybe related to the PDC folder bug mentioned recently?
Regardless an online render preroll would be great to have!
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01-23-2018, 03:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlprod
Regardless an online render preroll would be great to have!
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YES PLEASE!!!
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02-11-2018, 03:00 AM
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Another huge +1 for this.
Render queue is unfortunately pointless for me, as I have to go through and check every file I export and then re-render any broken files manually. Which sort of defeats the object
EDIT: misunderstood the issue here, mine is a bit different. But +1 anyway.
Last edited by Macc; 02-11-2018 at 03:10 AM.
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02-11-2018, 04:50 AM
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I think a render preroll (effective of course in the start of all regions to be rendered) would solve this.
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02-17-2018, 08:01 AM
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Definitely a problem here, too!
I'm mixing hybrid with folder track's outputs routed to the D/A of my interface and then have an analog summed stereo signal going back into reaper. From time to time the beginnings of rendered regions will have what sounds like drop outs / stutter. Really annoying.
Coming from Pro Tools i loved the possibility to render multiple project regions with the really useful and intelligent naming options and save a lot of time this way. But this bug really eats part of the benefit.
Of course i can extend the region's beginnings to have 1 or 2 empty seconds before audio starts, but that requires further work and additional exports afterwards to get the beginnings right.
A pre roll would be really great.
Additionally it could prevent long reverb tails from external reverb units spilling into the next track.
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02-18-2018, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lou latch
Definitely a problem here, too!
I'm mixing hybrid with folder track's outputs routed to the D/A of my interface and then have an analog summed stereo signal going back into reaper. From time to time the beginnings of rendered regions will have what sounds like drop outs / stutter. Really annoying.
Coming from Pro Tools i loved the possibility to render multiple project regions with the really useful and intelligent naming options and save a lot of time this way. But this bug really eats part of the benefit.
Of course i can extend the region's beginnings to have 1 or 2 empty seconds before audio starts, but that requires further work and additional exports afterwards to get the beginnings right.
A pre roll would be really great.
Additionally it could prevent long reverb tails from external reverb units spilling into the next track.
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Exactly.
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10-03-2018, 11:51 PM
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Bump. Please give us a region by region pre-roll for the render queue!
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