New EuCon project

[MixMonkey]

Having a bit of difficulty getting off the ground here I downloaded the EuCon Exp.zip and put the reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib in UserPlugins (where reaper_csurf_integrator.dylib is) and the Eucon folder in the Reaper Resource folder (same location as the CSI folder).

When I select 'Eucon' in the Control surfaces/OSC/Web prefs, I get an error box:



..and then Reaper crashes:

Thread 0 Crashed:: reaper  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106be1ef0 std::__1::vector<Widget*, std::__1::allocator<Widget*> >::begin() + 16
1   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106be1d61 WidgetGroup::RequestUpdate() + 49
2   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106be65d3 EuCon_ControlSurface::RequestUpdate() + 323
3   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106b92cec Page::Run() + 124
4   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106b6217c Manager::Run() + 92
5   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106b61fff CSurf_EuCon::Run() + 47
6   com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100837e81 CSurf_Run() + 193
7   com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001005be020 runMiscTimers() + 2512
8   com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100625ac9 Main_OnTimer(HWND__*, unsigned long) + 329
9   com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100b6dd9a MainProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 4730
10  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001009fa506 SwellDialogDefaultWindowProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 438
11  com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff2fdd5d5a __NSFireTimer + 67
12  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6d4e38 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 20
13  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6d499e __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 872
14  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6d4489 __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 322
15  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6b90ed __CFRunLoopRun + 1885
16  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6b8333 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 466
17  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff2c2d3abd RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 292
18  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff2c2d36f4 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 359
19  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff2c2d3579 _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 64
20  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a91a739 _DPSNextEvent + 883
21  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a918f80 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 1352
22  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a90ac8e -[NSApplication run] + 658
23  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a8dca76 NSApplicationMain + 777
24  com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100578024 start + 52

I'm using macOS 10.15.7.

Am I committing some terrible Eucon faux pas?

[Geoff Waddington]

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

Having a bit of difficulty getting off the ground here I downloaded the EuCon Exp.zip and put the reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib in UserPlugins (where reaper_csurf_integrator.dylib is) and the Eucon folder in the Reaper Resource folder (same location as the CSI folder).

When I select 'Eucon' in the Control surfaces/OSC/Web prefs, I get an error box:



..and then Reaper crashes:

Thread 0 Crashed:: reaper  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106be1ef0 std::__1::vector<Widget*, std::__1::allocator<Widget*> >::begin() + 16
1   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106be1d61 WidgetGroup::RequestUpdate() + 49
2   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106be65d3 EuCon_ControlSurface::RequestUpdate() + 323
3   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106b92cec Page::Run() + 124
4   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106b6217c Manager::Run() + 92
5   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106b61fff CSurf_EuCon::Run() + 47
6   com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100837e81 CSurf_Run() + 193
7   com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001005be020 runMiscTimers() + 2512
8   com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100625ac9 Main_OnTimer(HWND__*, unsigned long) + 329
9   com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100b6dd9a MainProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 4730
10  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001009fa506 SwellDialogDefaultWindowProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 438
11  com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff2fdd5d5a __NSFireTimer + 67
12  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6d4e38 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 20
13  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6d499e __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 872
14  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6d4489 __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 322
15  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6b90ed __CFRunLoopRun + 1885
16  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6b8333 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 466
17  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff2c2d3abd RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 292
18  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff2c2d36f4 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 359
19  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff2c2d3579 _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 64
20  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a91a739 _DPSNextEvent + 883
21  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a918f80 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 1352
22  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a90ac8e -[NSApplication run] + 658
23  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a8dca76 NSApplicationMain + 777
24  com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100578024 start + 52

I'm using macOS 10.15.7.

Am I committing some terrible Eucon faux pas?

Did you install EuControl ?

Does EuControl see the tablet ?

You should see the tablet in EuControl -- Window->EuControl Settings -- Surfaces tab.

BTW thanks for the bug report

We should get out more gracefully when that happens

[Productionsfl]

Originally Posted by Heb

Personally, I would like the latch preview function prioritized.
Right now that automation mode cant be used if eucon is active and connected to a control surface, it makes Reaper crash.

Latch preview works here also, I use it all the time.

[Productionsfl]

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

New build is up.

EuCon Exp.zip

Meter channels now clamped at 10 -- maybe going to 1 if it's over like PT is better, dunno...

Meters now follow solo.

All good here on my 5.1 projects
Thnx!

[Heb]

Originally Posted by Productionsfl

Latch preview works here also, I use it all the time.

I see you are on OSX.
RobinGShore, are you also on Mac?
Could this be a windows issue or has anyone with Windows 10 got latch preview and this version of eucon working?

I can add that reverting to the old beta makes latch preview functioning again, so it seems it has to do with the new version.

[Geoff Waddington]

New build is up.

EuCon Exp.zip

If EuCon initialization falls, Reaper doesn't crash

It also doesn't exit, allowing you to remove EuCon in Reaper surfaces setup

[Nick Morris]

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

Having a bit of difficulty getting off the ground here I downloaded the EuCon Exp.zip and put the reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib in UserPlugins (where reaper_csurf_integrator.dylib is) and the Eucon folder in the Reaper Resource folder (same location as the CSI folder).

When I select 'Eucon' in the Control surfaces/OSC/Web prefs, I get an error box:



..and then Reaper crashes:

Thread 0 Crashed:: reaper  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106be1ef0 std::__1::vector<Widget*, std::__1::allocator<Widget*> >::begin() + 16
1   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106be1d61 WidgetGroup::RequestUpdate() + 49
2   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106be65d3 EuCon_ControlSurface::RequestUpdate() + 323
3   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106b92cec Page::Run() + 124
4   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106b6217c Manager::Run() + 92
5   reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib      	0x0000000106b61fff CSurf_EuCon::Run() + 47
6   com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100837e81 CSurf_Run() + 193
7   com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001005be020 runMiscTimers() + 2512
8   com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100625ac9 Main_OnTimer(HWND__*, unsigned long) + 329
9   com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100b6dd9a MainProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 4730
10  com.cockos.reaper             	0x00000001009fa506 SwellDialogDefaultWindowProc(HWND__*, unsigned int, unsigned long, long) + 438
11  com.apple.Foundation          	0x00007fff2fdd5d5a __NSFireTimer + 67
12  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6d4e38 __CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_TIMER_CALLBACK_FUNCTION__ + 20
13  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6d499e __CFRunLoopDoTimer + 872
14  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6d4489 __CFRunLoopDoTimers + 322
15  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6b90ed __CFRunLoopRun + 1885
16  com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x00007fff2d6b8333 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 466
17  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff2c2d3abd RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 292
18  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff2c2d36f4 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 359
19  com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x00007fff2c2d3579 _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 64
20  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a91a739 _DPSNextEvent + 883
21  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a918f80 -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 1352
22  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a90ac8e -[NSApplication run] + 658
23  com.apple.AppKit              	0x00007fff2a8dca76 NSApplicationMain + 777
24  com.cockos.reaper             	0x0000000100578024 start + 52

I'm using macOS 10.15.7.

Am I committing some terrible Eucon faux pas?

I'm assuming you didn't download and install Eucontrol from Avid.

[MixMonkey]

Originally Posted by Nick Morris

I'm assuming you didn't download and install Eucontrol from Avid.

…..and you would be quite correct in that assumption My bad, I thought ‘Eucontrol app’ meant Geoff’s Eucontrol

[Geoff Waddington]

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

…..and you would be quite correct in that assumption My bad, I thought ‘Eucontrol app’ meant Geoff’s Eucontrol

EuControl is effectively Avid's version of CSI, that's why it was so hard to get them to play nice together

Kind of like this:

Midi/Osc surface <--> CSI <--> Reaper

EuCon surface <--> EuControl <--> Reaper

[MixMonkey]

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

New build is up.

EuCon Exp.zip

If EuCon initialization falls, Reaper doesn't crash

It also doesn't exit, allowing you to remove EuCon in Reaper surfaces setup

I see no one quite as thick as me has graced this thread before Good job I’m around to drag it down a few IQ points

[Geoff Waddington]

Originally Posted by MixMonkey

I see no one quite as thick as me has graced this thread before Good job I’m around to drag it down a few IQ points

Haha, just not used to the Avid/EuControl ecosystem like the other folks here, that's all

[Productionsfl]

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

New build is up.

EuCon Exp.zip

Track colouring should be fully functional.

Works like a charm on my old artist control!

[Heb]

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

New build is up.

EuCon Exp.zip

Track colouring should be fully functional.

Not fully functional on Windows10 I'm afraid, green is working, yellow shows as light blue, red as dark blue, purple as pink, pink as purple and so on..

Am I the only one trying this on W10?
Geoff, please let me know if I can be of any assistance checking tese things out on W10 (colouring and latch preview crash).

[BenMeyers]

My brain totally clocked out all week on audio stuff, I even forgot what I had to tweak during the week (compressors). Last night I remembered the double press issue and went well I'll look in the morning, I'm sure Geoff fixed it by now. Sure enough you did. Just wanted to say you're great. You fix stuff so quick.

The only feature I used in PT that isn't in Reaper yet with Eucon is using the control app to control plugins. I'm sure that's not anywhere near as straightforward as some of the other stuff, but that's the one feature I use.

[Funkybot]

I can confirm that enabling Global Latch Preview via the Soft Keys will crash Reaper on Windows.

Here's a screencap...

[Heb]

Originally Posted by Funkybot

I can confirm that enabling Global Latch Preview via the Soft Keys will crash Reaper on Windows.

Here's a screencap...

Thank you for confirming, it doesn't matter if I use a soft key or if I enable it in the menu, reaper crash regardless.

[Funkybot]

Originally Posted by Heb

Thank you for confirming, it doesn't matter if I use a soft key or if I enable it in the menu, reaper crash regardless.

Yep, seeing that here. Whether I run the action "Global automation override: All automation in latch preview mode" from the Action List or select it from the Transport menu, it will crash Reaper. Maybe the Eucon plugin can't find a Track automation to correspond to that action and that's causing crashes?

[Heb]

Originally Posted by Funkybot

Yep, seeing that here. Whether I run the action "Global automation override: All automation in latch preview mode" from the Action List or select it from the Transport menu, it will crash Reaper. Maybe the Eucon plugin can't find a Track automation to correspond to that action and that's causing crashes?

If I use the "Set all tracks to latch preview mode" action, it works if eucon is enabled but no controlsurface is connected, if a controlsurface/app is connected reaper crashes
If I use the "Global automation override: All automation in latch preview mode" reaper crash if eucon is enabled regardless if a controlsurface is connected or not..

[Richard Williams]

I have a working EUCON system and control surfaces. Everything works fine with NUENDO and DaVinci.

I want to use my potable setup with Reaper and downloaded the trial version of Reaper v6.36. Target system Win7 64bit. Intel i7. An old platform but works well enough for the moment.

1) Sound and video output with Reaper are AOK.

2) I downloaded and unpacked the most recent EuCOn Exp.zip. Since there were
no precise deployment instructions I copied the EuCOn directory into
/Reaper(X64/Plugins. I copied the reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib and the
reaper_csurf_eucon64.dll files into the /Reaper(X64/Plugins directory.

3) In Reaper preferences, options, Control/OSC/web the EuCon surface device
was selected.

The EuCon error "EuConManager::Initialize() failed with Code:2" appeared.


I have obviously done something horribly wrong and would appreciate some expert advice.

Thanks and regards.

[Funkybot]

Originally Posted by Richard Williams

I have a working EUCON system and control surfaces. Everything works fine with NUENDO and DaVinci.

I want to use my potable setup with Reaper and downloaded the trial version of Reaper v6.36. Target system Win7 64bit. Intel i7. An old platform but works well enough for the moment.

1) Sound and video output with Reaper are AOK.

2) I downloaded and unpacked the most recent EuCOn Exp.zip. Since there were
no precise deployment instructions I copied the EuCOn directory into
/Reaper(X64/Plugins. I copied the reaper_csurf_eucon.dylib and the
reaper_csurf_eucon64.dll files into the /Reaper(X64/Plugins directory.

3) In Reaper preferences, options, Control/OSC/web the EuCon surface device
was selected.

The EuCon error "EuConManager::Initialize() failed with Code:2" appeared.


I have obviously done something horribly wrong and would appreciate some expert advice.

Thanks and regards.

1. Copy the Eucon folder into your Reaper resource path. Do not put it in the plugins folder.

2. Copy the .dll (if Windows) or .dylib (if Mac) into the UserPlugins folder.

Here's what it looks like on Windows (but use the comparable locations on Mac).

[Heb]

Originally Posted by Funkybot

1. Copy the Eucon folder into your Reaper resource path. Do not put it in the plugins folder.

2. Copy the .dylib into the UserPlugins folder.

Here's what it looks like on Windows (but use the comparable locations on Mac).

Edit:
Sorry, missed the text in your picture..

It seems he wants this running on windows so I think he should be using "reaper_csurf_eucon64.dll" instead of the .dylib

[Funkybot]

Originally Posted by Heb

Edit:
Sorry, missed the text I your picture..

It seems he wants this running on windows so I think he should be using "reaper_csurf_eucon64.dll" instead of the .dylib

I clarified the text of the post as well!

[Richard Williams]

This relates to the error message "EuConManager::Initialize() failed with code: 2"

I pulled the resource uploaded on Sept. 04 2021: https://stash.reaper.fm/v/42522/EuCon%20Exp.zip <https://stash.reaper.fm/v/42522/EuCon%20Exp.zip>

On advice received via a Reaper forum newbie thread I copied the EuCon directory into the Reaper resource
path directory: AppData/Roaming/Reaper and the platform related reaper_csurf_euconNN.dll into the
Reaper resource path directory: AppData/Roaming/Reaper/UserPlugins.

After restarting the system and Reaper I tried configuring the EuCon via Options/Preferences/Control/OSC/Web

In the case of the platforms

- Intel Core2Quad, 32bit, Win7Pro, EuControl 2.7.1 88549, Reaper v6.36
- Intel i7, 64bit, Win7Pro, EuControl 2.6.1 76408, Reaper v6.36

The error message "EuConManager::Initialize() failed with code: 2" appears.

In the case of the following platform:-

- Intel i5, 64bit, Win10Pro, EuControl 2.6.1 76408, Reaper v5.35

The EuCon device does not appear on the Options/Preferences/Control/OSC/Web list at all.


Summary

My Avid control surfaces work perfectly via EuCon with Nuendo and DaVinci across the above platforms.

In all cases Reaper audio and video is AOK. The only thing that is missing is to get Reaper to communicate
with my EuCon.

I suspect that I am guilty of causing a version mismatch somewhere and I hope that the Reaper experts will help me sort this out.

Here is the data requested by Funkybot. N.B. There is no Plugins directory
in the Reaper resource area, but there is one in the application installation Program Files/REAPER(X64) directory.

[Geoff Waddington]

Originally Posted by Richard Williams

This relates to the error message "EuConManager::Initialize() failed with code: 2"

I pulled the resource uploaded on Sept. 04 2021: https://stash.reaper.fm/v/42522/EuCon%20Exp.zip <https://stash.reaper.fm/v/42522/EuCon%20Exp.zip>

On advice received via a Reaper forum newbie thread I copied the EuCon directory into the Reaper resource
path directory: AppData/Roaming/Reaper and the platform related reaper_csurf_euconNN.dll into the
Reaper resource path directory: AppData/Roaming/Reaper/UserPlugins.

After restarting the system and Reaper I tried configuring the EuCon via Options/Preferences/Control/OSC/Web

In the case of the platforms

- Intel Core2Quad, 32bit, Win7Pro, EuControl 2.7.1 88549, Reaper v6.36
- Intel i7, 64bit, Win7Pro, EuControl 2.6.1 76408, Reaper v6.36

The error message "EuConManager::Initialize() failed with code: 2" appears.

In the case of the following platform:-

- Intel i5, 64bit, Win10Pro, EuControl 2.6.1 76408, Reaper v5.35

The EuCon device does not appear on the Options/Preferences/Control/OSC/Web list at all.


Summary

My Avid control surfaces work perfectly via EuCon with Nuendo and DaVinci across the above platforms.

In all cases Reaper audio and video is AOK. The only thing that is missing is to get Reaper to communicate
with my EuCon.

I suspect that I am guilty of causing a version mismatch somewhere and I hope that the Reaper experts will help me sort this out.

Here is the data requested by Funkybot. N.B. There is no Plugins directory
in the Reaper resource area, but there is one in the application installation Program Files/REAPER(X64) directory.

As you have found Reaper 5.35 is too old, I think you need at least 6.28.

You are also running older versions of EuControl (2.7.1, 2.6.1) -- running 2021.6.1.5 here -- maybe try that.

[Funkybot]

The initial setup looks ok. Try Geoff's suggestion about updating.

Also, I think you said you had previously installed a version of the .dll or .dylib into the Reaper\Plugins folder instead of the Reaper\UserPlugins folder. Did you go back and delete that too? If not, also clear that out.

[RobinGShore]

Originally Posted by Heb

I see you are on OSX.
RobinGShore, are you also on Mac?
Could this be a windows issue or has anyone with Windows 10 got latch preview and this version of eucon working?

I usually use a mac, but I have a windows computer too that I just tested on and I can also confirm this. When using eucon on windows latch-preview mode makes reaper crash.

Originally Posted by Heb

Not fully functional on Windows10 I'm afraid, green is working, yellow shows as light blue, red as dark blue, purple as pink, pink as purple and so on..
.

I can confirm this as well, track colors on windows are definitely not showing correctly.

[Richard Williams]

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

As you have found Reaper 5.35 is too old, I think you need at least 6.28.

You are also running older versions of EuControl (2.7.1, 2.6.1) -- running 2021.6.1.5 here -- maybe try that.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

As noted in my text I was using Reaper v6.36 on two of the test platforms.

The final solution was to install the EuControl unified driver v2021.6.0.181
and reinstall the Reaper v6.36 distribution.

Everything works fine now and I can at last move forward with a Reaper DAW.

Many thanks to all for your patience and assistance. Issue resolved.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Funkybot]

Originally Posted by RobinGShore

I can confirm this as well, track colors on windows are definitely not showing correctly.

Same here: orange is blue, light blue is yellow, blue is orange, green and purple might be ok (depends on how close is good enough I suppose). Note: I'm comparing Reaper's colors to the mixer strip colors on the Avid Control app since I don't own an S1. Interesting that the colors are accurate on Mac.

[Old School Audio Guy]

OK Where do all the file go?
It would be nice to have an installer for Mac or Windows in my case but there is not
No problem I just need to know where the new Eucon Control project files go
I loaded in the csurf files in that location and have some feedback from reaper to the Artist mixers and control but am not sure where the rest go and If I have c surf files which just were added to the folder with the original csurf file. Look like it will be working once I have everything in their proper place.
I have latest version on Reaper installed and the latest version of Eucontrol installed and all surfaces are being seen so I take it from what I have read I'm on the right track.
Aa little assistants please
Thanks
Cheers
Perry

[Funkybot]

Originally Posted by Old School Audio Guy

OK Where do all the file go?
It would be nice to have an installer for Mac or Windows in my case but there is not
No problem I just need to know where the new Eucon Control project files go
I loaded in the csurf files in that location and have some feedback from reaper to the Artist mixers and control but am not sure where the rest go and If I have c surf files which just were added to the folder with the original csurf file. Look like it will be working once I have everything in their proper place.
I have latest version on Reaper installed and the latest version of Eucontrol installed and all surfaces are being seen so I take it from what I have read I'm on the right track.
Aa little assistants please
Thanks
Cheers
Perry

See post #180 above.

https://forum.cockos.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=180

[Old School Audio Guy]

OK I followed post #180

no transport control no fader control
no softkeys menu faders only go up half way
but no control of Reaper
At least no error messages
obviously I missed something somewhere
Still need help
Cheers
Perry

[Old School Audio Guy]

Oh yeah I forgot
I can't get to my Preference page either
Thanks
Perry

[Geoff Waddington]

Thinking of hard wiring the number of Sends and FX to 16, any reason not to ?

If not how about 24 ?

Pretty sure EuCon typically has hardwired limits for these things.

[Funkybot]

Originally Posted by Old School Audio Guy

OK I followed post #180

no transport control no fader control
no softkeys menu faders only go up half way
but no control of Reaper
At least no error messages
obviously I missed something somewhere
Still need help
Cheers
Perry

Can you post a screen prints of:

1. Your Reaper\UserPlugins folder in Explorer or Finder
2. Your Reaper\Eucon folder
3. Reaper's Preferences\Control\OSC\Web
4. Your Eucon.ini (should be in Reaper\Eucon)

And when I say Reaper\ I'm talking about the Reaper resource path.

Note: it's very often that my surface doesn't talk to Reaper to my DAWs so I also do a quick "Restart EUCON Applications" from the taskbar when that happens. Did you try that?

[Funkybot]

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

Thinking of hard wiring the number of Sends and FX to 16, any reason not to ?

If not how about 24 ?

Pretty sure EuCon typically has hardwired limits for these things.

Performance thing again?

I bet someone out there uses more than 16 sends, but more than 24 sounds insane to me. I'd have just quietly hard-coded them to 24 and see if anyone reported issues with the 25th send or higher not working.

[Nick Morris]

Originally Posted by Funkybot

Performance thing again?

I bet someone out there uses more than 16 sends, but more than 24 sounds insane to me. I'd have just quietly hard-coded them to 24 and see if anyone reported issues with the 25th send or higher not working.

16 is cool with me, and I thought I used a bunch.

[Geoff Waddington]

Originally Posted by Funkybot

Performance thing again?

Sort of...

Thinking of eliminating the "secret" EuCon.ini file.

There are 4 entries currently used:
NumChannels
NumSends
NumFX
FollowMCP

Pretty sure we can hardwire EuCon to follow the Mixer Control Panel, that is very EuCony

If we can hardwire Sends and FX, it will be worth having a look at dynamic track count management, now that we have much more reasonable EuCon initialization performance.

I suspect it will require a bit of smarts -- aka don't expand a 200 track project by one at a time when someone adds a single track -- some kind of strategy like -- add a percentage to the current count and then use those up for added tracks until it runs out and do it again -- I'm guessing something along those lines will be required to get decent performance.

Originally Posted by Funkybot

I bet someone out there uses more than 16 sends, but more than 24 sounds insane to me. I'd have just quietly hard-coded them to 24 and see if anyone reported issues with the 25th send or higher not working.

24 it is

[Productionsfl]

Originally Posted by Geoff Waddington

Thinking of hard wiring the number of Sends and FX to 16, any reason not to ?

If not how about 24 ?

Pretty sure EuCon typically has hardwired limits for these things.

I don’t think I ever needed more than 8 … in other daws maybe but definitely not in Reaper.
So 16 is more than enough for me

[Old School Audio Guy]

Originally Posted by Funkybot

Can you post a screen prints of:

1. Your Reaper\UserPlugins folder in Explorer or Finder
2. Your Reaper\Eucon folder
3. Reaper's Preferences\Control\OSC\Web
4. Your Eucon.ini (should be in Reaper\Eucon)

And when I say Reaper\ I'm talking about the Reaper resource path.

Note: it's very often that my surface doesn't talk to Reaper to my DAWs so I also do a quick "Restart EUCON Applications" from the taskbar when that happens. Did you try that?

Hi Funkybot
Geoff said you can help
I don't seem to have a Eucon.ini file anywhere on my workstation
Here are the file location pics you wanted to see some got zipped I should have done them all. It's late
I'm sure this will help
Thanks
Perry
Thanks
Perry

[Funkybot]

Perry...ok, there's a whole lot to unpack here. Let's try to sort this.

First, we're going to need to undo some stuff. It looks like you installed EuControl into Reaper\Eucon\ that's 100% definitely not where you should be putting that.

So first thing's first...

1. Go to Windows "Add or Remove Programs" and uninstall EuControl
2. Then restart your PC
3. Then reinstall the latest EuControl but let it go to the default folder AVID wants to install it to. Do not put EuControl anywhere near the Reaper path. EuControl is it's own thing outside of Reaper. Let it go where the installer wants to put it which should be in C:\Program Files somewhere. Example: mine is located in: C:\Program Files\Euphonix\EuCon\

...if EuControl wants to restart your PC, let it! Now, once EuControl is installed where it wants to be, we need to install Geoff's Eucon adapter. Based on your screen prints, I see that you've got CSI installed, not the Eucon adapter. They are two separate things.

So we need to fix that...

4. Go into your existing AppData\Roaming\Reaper\Eucon\ folder and delete any leftover files (if any) from the prior install

Now you're basically starting fresh.

5. Download Geoff's Eucon beta for Reaper from this link:

https://stash.reaper.fm/v/42522/EuCon%20Exp.zip

6. Open the zip file, take the file named reaper_csurf_eucon64.dll and copy that over to AppData\Roaming\Reaper\UserPlugins\

7. Go back to the zip file and copy the entire Eucon folder into the AppData\Roaming\Reaper folder. You should now see AppData\Roaming\Reaper\Eucon. In that folder, you should see a Eucon.ini file.

We're almost home! You can even turn on your surface now if not already on.

8. Open up Reaper
9. Go to Preferences->Control\OSC\Web
10. Click the "Add" button
11. Select "Eucon" from the dropdown
12. Click OK to save
13. Close Reaper's preferences

And you should be all set!

If EuControl doesn't immediately see the surface, right click the E icon on the Windows system tray and select "Restart All EUCON applications" and that should kick the surface back to life.

It sounds painful but this should be a one-time deal (except for the Restart all EUCON applications step, I have to do that pretty regularly).