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05-06-2011, 03:59 PM
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Best pitch shift quality?
Ok, here's what I'm tryin' to do:
I got a violin bank that I want to use to create a second violin bank. The idea is to move every sample up or down a half step in my sampler, but after having pitch-shifted the sample in the opposite direction. That way, the sample for the note D would be used to play C sharp, etc...so if first and second violins play in unison, it will not be the exact same sound.
Of course, quality must be as high as possible, and I don't care if it takes hours do the conversion.
So what are my options, within Reaper or thanks to a third party program? Any info appreciated. That's a side of Reaper that I don't know. Thanks!
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05-07-2011, 08:23 AM
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PaulStretch is one of the absolute best pitch shifting apps and it's even free.
It's the one that got famous for slowing down a Justin Bieber song 800% and turning into a beautiful ambient number with millions of listens. The original SoundCloud file is down, but I see there's one on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QspuCt1FM9M
EDIT: link updated to main page with latest version.
Last edited by V'ger; 05-09-2011 at 12:32 PM.
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05-09-2011, 03:31 AM
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Thank you very much. I'll do my pitch-shift thing tonight. Cheers!
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05-09-2011, 04:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by V'ger
PaulStretch is one of the absolute best pitch shifting apps and it's even free.
It's the one that got famous for slowing down a Justin Bieber song 800% and turning into a beautiful ambient number with millions of listens. The original SoundCloud file is down, but I see there's one on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QspuCt1FM9M
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That's actually really inspiring!!! I've just downloaded PaulStretch and am going to have a play around.
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05-09-2011, 05:41 AM
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Downloaded. Gonna give a try. What do you think about Reaper pitch-shift skills? Are they different modes? If so, what gives the best quality, no matter how long it takes? Gonna check that, but any suggestion highly appreciated
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05-09-2011, 05:41 AM
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I'm playing around with PaulStretch now. This is a REALLY cool tool, especially for ambient/soundtrack work.
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05-09-2011, 09:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -R-
Downloaded. Gonna give a try. What do you think about Reaper pitch-shift skills? Are they different modes? If so, what gives the best quality, no matter how long it takes? Gonna check that, but any suggestion highly appreciated
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There isn't an answer to this. It really depends on the signal, hence the many different modes.
Edit: Sorry, didn't read your first post first . In the case you describe, I'd try one of the Élastique or Dirac modes, although Dirac needs a lot of time, but on the other hand IMO doesn't always give the best results.
Thanks for the link V'ger. Just downloaded. Still have to try.
-Data
Last edited by Mr. Data; 05-09-2011 at 09:08 AM.
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05-09-2011, 01:16 PM
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I've never used PaulStretch, but from its own website description, I don't think it's what the OP needs. quote:
" It is suitable only for extreme sound stretching of the audio (like 50x) and for applying special effects by "spectral smoothing" the sounds."
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The industry standard, by leaps and bounds, is Melodyne. It is expensive, complicated, and mainly designed for pitch CORRECTION, but it does pitch change amazingly well.
There's also a fairly new one I like, called Vielklang. - which also does harmonization.
Waves Sound Shifter & Serrato PitchnTime are also very, very good.
Also, FWIW, Reaper's built-in Élastique is really not bad at all.
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05-12-2011, 12:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cableaddict
I've never used PaulStretch, but from its own website description, I don't think it's what the OP needs. quote:
" It is suitable only for extreme sound stretching of the audio (like 50x) and for applying special effects by "spectral smoothing" the sounds."
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I'd agree on that. to do "normal" timestretch (whatever that is) PaulStratch applies too many artefacts. On that matter I couldn't get any usable results. However, very compelling is the HyperStretch function which allows a 55 second wavefile to be stretched to about 1.7 trillion years. Have to try this once or twice.
-Data
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