Old 03-24-2018, 11:10 AM   #161
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Updated with mono button...sorry no provision for multiple-nested folders.
No problem, it was the inconsistency that I found interesting. Thanks for the mono button
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Old 03-24-2018, 09:26 PM   #162
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yes, I think it sets a bad precedent.
If he hadn't been active in the last year or more, I would be more likely to agree, but that isn't the case here.
You asked about starting a thread on this topic
I think it's a good idea, since it would allow most themers a chance to express their views about this.

Both you and hwhalen know how much work goes into a theme and how long it can take even when you are dedicating most if your spare time to it.
The OP generally posts several months apart.
He probably hasn't responded to requests for progress updates, demands for communication or even PMs sent offering to help because he doesn't get notifications from this forum.
I myself do not get notifications.

There is also no indication from the OP that he's OK with others making a version and distributing to everyone as can be seen in Albert's Solaris SSL thread or Silent's Reaction thread.
Hopefully, he won't mind, but what if he does?
Personally, I would lose all motivation to keep working on it or share any future themes or ideas.

I have watched this thread steadily deteriorate into a classic example of why themers should never post mockups or ideas.
I love this design to, but it's disheartening to see so little patience shown to the OP because he's not working or responding according everyone else's subjective timeline.

Between this and what's being posted in the Imperial v5 thread, it seems that sharing your theme before having a working release is just a bad idea.


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Well, just to clarify, it wasn't in a negative way that I stated that you
talked me out of it. I respected you enough to ask your opinion, and I
listened to you. I Enjoy your work and respect you and everyone here and the following
is an opinion.
I think that at some point a developer has to know in his heart that another rendition
of an undeveloped theme is at most a tribute to his work and a statement
about exactly how much people really enjoy it. I for one would be glad that someone
cared enough to offer something to tide users over to relieve some pressure
especially with my lack of time to continue progress. Also, the Ascend theme is inspired by,
visually similar to, and a tribute to a design of AMS Neve.
With a price tag of $50-100,000, I don't think that the company would approve of derivatives
of their product, just as SSL would not approve of Albert's work in the realm
of console knock-offery, (all ver's of solaris, which through the course of development and
user feedback at the forum became less like an SSL console), but we are all appreciative
of the work of him, Lucas, Jeff, HW, WT, PyerBass, and all the others here who are comrades
in this clandestine, if you will, subculture of daw gui efficionados. The truth is, there isn't
really any work of art, whether it be a gui for a daw, or the console it's modeled after,
or any of the hit songs that the console or daw may subsequently
produce, that has not been inspired by something else. As artists, we should
always play fair, give credit where credit is due, and be accepting and
appreciative of criticism, and also, in my opinion, not be offended when
our creations are so inspiring to others that they sample, augment, and reproduce
or rework them. HW's ver of Ascend is sufficiently different
when compared with Jeff's, just as Jeff's ver is different from the AMS Neve Genesys Black.
In any event, by posting anything on the stash you are doing so to share it,
thats what the stash is for. One could argue that the dev may have wanted a donation for his work.
Maybe he planned on creating the theme just to hold it hostage until some type of payment is made
under the guise of charity...that to me is nothing more than selling. And
WT created two of the best themes in the history of this daw...and he did it sans payment or
donation. In the spirit of the Stash. And he posted a mockup simply to show the capabilities of
the ver 5 WALTER - which we have all benefitted from immensely and use. In this case, NOT posting
a mockup would have set us back quite a way in regard to theming. He (WT) asked people not to recreate
the new Imperial until it is done, and that simple request worked.
Jeff's ver of Ascend will be all his, and I still very much anticipate it, as do many I am sure, but HW's ver of
Ascend is released, an nobody can deny by looking at that theme that it has HwHalen's fingerprint on it. He put in
alot of work on it...he made the whole theme except for maybe a couple .png's
he may have cropped. That's alot of work that is going down the drain now because
of recent activity which has prompted him to take the theme down. Well I am glad I got it
on time before it's lost.
Thank you very much for your work HwHalen, on this and many other things,
as you are one of the most dedicated and
prolific member's of this community.

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Old 03-24-2018, 11:13 PM   #163
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I saw a theme by the name Ascend in reaper stash.

Is that by the same person as this thread?
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Old 03-25-2018, 12:15 AM   #164
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I saw a theme by the name Ascend in reaper stash.

Is that by the same person as this thread?
You have a good point @sickamorz this thread belongs to @JeffSounds and so does the theme name 'Ascend'.
The theme at the stash is NOT the
Ascend theme conceptualized by
@JeffSounds and @hwhalen probably should
have changed the name but it doesn't matter now. And I would like to add atp
that I apologize if my post asking @hwhalen about the status of the release
in any way prompted him to do something
which he may now regret. And also for
adding to the footprint of the thread bulk thoughts contrary to the intent of it's creator.
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Old 03-25-2018, 03:08 AM   #165
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The Ascend theme OP is JeffEstrada, not Jeffsounds
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Old 03-25-2018, 03:13 AM   #166
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Well, just to clarify, it wasn't in a negative way that I stated that you
talked me out of it.
Totally O.K., I didn't see it as negative.
I was in hurry and my post probably comes off heavier than I intended.
I can also see that including my thoughts on way the thread is heading probably gave it a heavier tone than I intended.

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...alot of work
that is gping down the drain now because
he has been made to feel bad because of
the recent activity here and is taking
the theme down.
My apologies to hwhalen, if that's the case.
My intention wasn't to make him feel bad, I was just giving my perspective for consideration.

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In any event, by posting anything on
the stash you are doing so to share it,
thats what the stash is for.
Absolutely, totally agree if it's working theme.
If it's just a PNG of a theme being worked on, then I think the PNG is for sharing and does not imply consent to build your own version of the unfinished theme to share with everyone else.

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...He (WT) asked people not to recreate
the new Imperial until it is done...
This goes to the heart of what I'm talking about.
For me, waiting until the OP is done before making your own version known or available is the default action.
I don't see why it needs to be stated or clarified.

Again, I think this is a great topic for discussion for all themers contribute to.
I had hoped you would open a thread on it.
I will start the thread and move this discussion there if you prefer.
Please let me know.
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Old 03-25-2018, 04:33 AM   #167
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At 7:45 PM it is still there in the stash no point to take it down now.
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Old 03-25-2018, 05:01 AM   #168
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Sickamorz please do me a favor: stop commenting without reading previous post.
Hwhalen wrote that he will remove it on Monday
You opened a lot of threads with silly questions all of them can be answered using the search button.
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Old 03-25-2018, 05:31 AM   #169
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The Ascend theme OP is JeffEstrada, not Jeffsounds
LOL thank you for the correction I hope it didn't confuse anyone
I don't know where I got that.
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I think this is a great topic for discussion for all themers contribute to.
I had hoped you would open a thread on it.
I will start the thread and move this discussion there if you prefer.
Please let me know.
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If you would like to start a thread on this subject I do have one good
idea that would be relevant to the discussion and be a remedy to some
of the negative feelings some may incur from time to time.
I would definately feel better if it were you starting it as you have more experience with the user base here.

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Old 03-25-2018, 06:55 AM   #171
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Oh dear, I live with multiple nested folders.
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Old 03-25-2018, 07:27 AM   #172
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OK, will do tomorrow or so.
Please send me a PM with the suggestion you mentioned.
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Old 03-27-2018, 10:19 AM   #173
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hahaha nice try
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Forgot to add the smiley...
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can someone hack into the screenshot and extract the theme code?
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Old 06-12-2018, 08:00 AM   #177
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thanks to those of you being very patient! I still work on it every chance I get. I don't receive notifications, so anyone messaging me I don't see it until I get go on the forums. Thanks again!
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He's alive... ALIVE I tell you!

Good to hear from you, Jeff.
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Good news! Keep plugging away and don’t be a stranger B)
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Old 06-16-2018, 02:07 AM   #180
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this thread has more excitement going than the reaper6 heads !
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Old 06-16-2018, 03:54 AM   #181
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Hi,

Where can I download / try / buy this theme?
It's still in the works?

Thanks!
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Old 06-16-2018, 08:07 AM   #182
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Hi,

Where can I download / try / buy this theme?
It's still in the works?

Thanks!
At the moment, it's neither completed nor available. Patience.
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At the moment, it's neither completed nor available. Patience.
Thanks for the information!
I'll wait.
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Old 06-19-2018, 06:18 PM   #184
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Hi,

Where can I download / try / buy this theme?
It's still in the works?

Thanks!
It's still in progress, I haven't uploaded it yet.I can say it's getting close. At the moment I don't want to focus on all the different layouts just yet. My goal is to first release the fully working theme with as little bugs as possible, and from there forward focus on updating it with more layouts for both TCP and MCP as time goes on.
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It's still in progress, I haven't uploaded it yet.I can say it's getting close. At the moment I don't want to focus on all the different layouts just yet. My goal is to first release the fully working theme with as little bugs as possible, and from there forward focus on updating it with more layouts for both TCP and MCP as time goes on.
Great news! Thank you Jeff!
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