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Old 09-23-2017, 10:08 PM   #1
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Default ReaperKeyboardShortcuts.html weird ordering?

Hey all,
Clicking Help->Key Bindings and mouse modifiers brings up the ReaperKeyboardShortcuts.html file. Does the ordering of this list seem weird to anyone else? It almost looks like it is printed in the order that I set the commands.

If I open up the Actions dialog window, then click "Shortcuts", the commands are listed in a quasi-alphanumeric ordering. Can I get the keyboardshortcuts.html file to do this the same way?
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Old 09-24-2017, 12:08 AM   #2
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Not like that for me, but why do you even need it so? There are so many actions, surely you will be just word-searching the list and not going through them alphabetically?

Not that there aren't plenty of lists in Reaper that should ought be alphabetized...no disagreement there.
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Old 09-24-2017, 04:21 PM   #3
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I think he wants the shortcuts in ReaperKeyboardShortcuts.html in order.

A
Shift+A
Control+A
etc.

B
Shift+B
etc.

etc...

+1 to that. Here, it looks like the actions are ordered alphabetically by their names, including things like "Custom:" in the name. Except cycle actions are last. There are a couple that don't seem to comply quite right. That is only in the Main section.

The Media Explorer and MIDI editor ordering make no sense to me at all. It might indeed have something to do with the order they were first assigned to something.

It seems like the shortcut ordering in the action list has improved since last time I tried it. Thanks!
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Old 09-24-2017, 05:24 PM   #4
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FNA: Exactly!

And the reason I would need it in a sane ordering is so I can print that biz out, stare at it, and get way faster at Reaper than I currently am!

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Old 09-24-2017, 06:22 PM   #5
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I would really like to SEE a keyboard so I can quickly see which keys or combos are available.
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Old 09-24-2017, 06:28 PM   #6
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Something like this?, sorted by command, see attachments
Exactly. Were you able to select text in the action window and paste to a text file?
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Old 09-24-2017, 07:15 PM   #7
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Exactly. Were you able to select text in the action window and paste to a text file?
Na, I did it the hard way, copied the text from web browser, saved the command- description section data to a file (the format is Command TAB-KEY Description) , then use some basic vb.net code in VS, not very elegant.

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Old 09-24-2017, 07:29 PM   #8
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Yikes! Thanks for sharing that.

It would be fun if there was a way to print out unused keys/combos too eh?
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Yikes! Thanks for sharing that.

It would be fun if there was a way to print out unused keys/combos too eh?
Ya, that be cool! Would need a list of all possible key combos for each section of Reaper I think for starters.

EDIT: Added 'Sort Reaper Cmnd.zip' (includes both VB10 source and Exe), This uses an API (StrCmpLogicalW) to do a logical sort, so text with numbers will be sorted like how Windows Explorer sorts names.

EDIT Newer versions in posts #16-17.

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Old 09-24-2017, 08:57 PM   #10
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Brilliant! Thanks for your time.

Would something like this be a useful feature request?

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Old 09-24-2017, 09:17 PM   #11
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Brilliant! Thanks for your time.

Would something like this be a useful feature request?
It doesn't cost anything to ask, and to me this would be more useful then some of the other requests I've seen posted!
Good luck!


BTW, The code uses the default Sort class, it sorts numbers weird (non-logical?), like F11 will come before F2, I can fix that using Windows API, just too lazy right now.

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Old 09-24-2017, 09:42 PM   #12
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I think they should use the Action List sort logic, but make an entry for each assignment rather than stacking shortcuts on actions that have more than one.

Here, MIDI mouse modifiers are not correct either. Omissions and some actions from the Main section showing instead...
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Old 09-25-2017, 07:53 AM   #13
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Edgemeal,
Sorry, but is the archive w source and executable that you just posted updated or different from your original attachment?
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Edgemeal,
Sorry, but is the archive w source and executable that you just posted updated or different from your original attachment?
Yes, why else would I have posted it?
The newer post uses an API to sort, Digits in the strings are considered as numerical content rather than text, where as the original used .Net Sort and doesn't sort text with numbers in them the same way.

.Net Sort
F1
F10
F2
F3

StrCmpLogicalW API Sort
F1
F2
F3
F10

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Thanks again
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Thanks again
Version 2 (Parse the whole list!)
Drag and drop from Chrome address bar or from the html file in Explorer (Reaper saves the html to your temp folder).



v2.2 -"Default action" is now at the top of each section, & other minor change.

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Old 09-27-2017, 11:04 PM   #17
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OK last one!

Version 2.3.

If the "ReaperKeyboardShortcuts.html" file is found on start the file will be loaded for you, otherwise you can drag the file from chrome address bar or your temp folder and drop it onto the dropdown list at the very top of the app.

Section header text is now colored and displayed in the dropdown list so you can jump to a section.

EDIT: Project no longer updated/supported.

Download Sort Reaper Cmnd v2.3 - Release.zip

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