On-Board Yamaha MX49/61 voice list - MIDI and audio recording

[hydr0]

Hey guys, recently bought an MX49 as a larger MIDI controller but am really impressed with the onboard samples. I want to record them as MIDI data but hear the note playback as well when I click on them, just like on a VST, to edit the MIDI notes. Unfortunately, I bought mine as a store display item without any boxes/hard copy manuals/downloads and Yamaha tells you to use Cubase AI to record onboard voices. Figuring out how to do this same thing in Reaper is giving me trouble, especially with MIDI thru and installing the voice list on my PC. But as far as hardware goes I think its correctly set up. Here are the two parts from the Reference Manual PDF for Cubase:

MIDI section:









Audio section:



Of course this would be great if I had Cubase. I'm not sure how to do the equivalent on reaper. I have set up the Yamaha/Steinberg ASIO driver as seen here



And I have the MIDI input and MIDI output set to the MX49 (I guess the closest thing to "MIDI thru."





Not quite sure what to do from here... there's no FX to select for the MX49 nor do I know how to complete step 3 on the Audio section. Reaper doesn't have separate MIDI and audio tracks and I don't know how to route them to each other. There's also no way to install the MX49 voice list onto Reaper like on Cubase.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

[DarkStar]

That set-up looks OK to me (are the audio input and output device names really the same?). But what do your MIDI devices look like in the Preferences?

All you need to do now is click Record and play your keyboard - the MIDI will come into the track, get recorded and sent out on the selected MIDI hardware output.

To pick the 'right' voice on the synth you can add ReaControlMIDI to the track (right-click the TCP and select 'MIDI track controls' or add a Program Control Message to your recorded MIDI clip. Either way you'll probably want to build a .reaBanks file so that you are working with patch names not numbers.

Details of all the above are in the User Guide.

[DarkStar]

PS That looks like a lot of hard work in Cubase

[hydr0]

It was a lot more hard work for Reaper. I had to type up my own reabank file and it's still not finished... but at least 384 voices are in!

ReaControlMIDI seems to be working fine, selecting the voice in the FX window does change it on my MX49, along with the pitch and mod wheels.

MIDI notes do get recorded nicely, and I hear the audio but only when plugged into the MX49 itself. How do I get the actual audio onto a Reaper track? More specifically, a way of opening up the MIDI editor, clicking on one of the notes and getting to hear the note preview?

Here's a look at ReaControlMIDI so far:

[DarkStar]

You would need to connect the audio output form the hardware to your computer. enable that as the Audio input device in Reaper and select that device as the input on another track (RecArm, Input Monitor etc).

ReaInsert would be an alternative method (have a look in the User Guide, 3,35).

[hydr0]

At the moment, the only thing that is connecting the MX49 to the PC is the USB cable. By audio output do you mean the 1/4" jack on the back of the synth? Would I then have to use an aux cord to send the signal to my PC?

[Pet]

Originally Posted by hydr0

...I had to type up my own reabank file and it's still not finished... but at least 384 voices are in!...

Hi hydr0,
how is it going with the reabank? Can you export or save it as a txt-file from the manual? I can help you creating the reabank by editing the pdf (get rid of grafics stuff and export it). No need for typing it in by hand.
Let me know if you want some help!

Peter

[Edit:] I found some files about the MX49 and now have a plain txt-file with more than 1100 Voices. You can have it, if you want, anyway I will have a closer look at the BankChange/Controller messages the MX49 needs to switch the sounds to make a proper reabank.

[Edit 2:] Try this version I uploaded in the stash:https://stash.reaper.fm/v/29300/YamahaMX49.reabank (Deleted, see post #15)