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Old 06-16-2009, 06:47 AM   #1
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Default TCP Parameter knobs - some suggestions

Here are a few suggested changes to the TCP Parameter knobs that will make their use much easier (IMO):

Here's the current position - the same track, at different heights, with 18 parameter knobs and a track icon (64x64 bits) displayed. I've tinted a couple to show how they move around (PS doesn't this show how useful user-tinting would be? )



-- on track 1, there are only 2 parameters visible, although there is room for 3
-- on tracks 2 and 3, the track icon has disappeared and the Next/Previous buttons have been stretched,
-- on track 4, all parameters are visible, but in 4 columns, and the track icon is back (but very small),
-- on track 5, all parameters are visible, in 3 columns, and the track icon is at its normal size,
-- on track 6, the parameter knobs have been rrearranged unnecessarily.
-- on all the tracks, the knobs are in different places depending on the track height, so I have to keep reading the labels to find the right one.

Recommendations:
a) keep the scrolling arrows a fixed size, by implementing the Power of Pink for tcp_fxparm_arrows_lr.png
b) keep the track icon (if there is one) always displayed at a reasonable size
c) once all parameters are visible, that layout (6 rows of 3 in this case) should be kept,
d) keep the parameters in the same relative positions (running across then down);
probably this is only possible for a given TCP width; for example:
Code:
// room for 3 in a row
ABC
DEF
GHI
JKL
or
// room for 4 in a row
ABCD
EFGH
IJKL
And here's a mock-up showing the results (you will see that the knobs are ALWAYS in the same place (for a given TCP width):



[originally posted as a Nitpick - but I think it's more than that - "because it's worth it"]

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Old 06-16-2009, 12:21 PM   #2
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Good thoughts. Agreed in all points. Especially the constant rearranging of parameters is annoying.
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Old 06-22-2009, 02:14 PM   #3
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Good idea...finally a workable idea to fix the ugly one.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:35 AM   #4
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As I use the TCP parameter knobs more, this is really bugging me now.

Every time I change the track height, the knobs move their positions.

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Old 08-03-2009, 11:07 AM   #5
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Yes gents, follow suite.
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:36 PM   #6
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More votes needed to get this FR Issue elected (elevated):

http://forum.cockos.com/project.php?issueid=295
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:20 PM   #7
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Here is the result in v3.13:
<< image deleted by ImagShack >>

-- on track 1, there are only 2 parameters visible, although there is room for 3
-- on tracks 2, 3 and 4, the Next/Previous buttons have been stretched and there is room for 3 knobs in each row,
-- on track 5, all parameters are visible, in 3 columns,
-- on track 6, the parameter knobs have been rrearranged unnecessarily.
-- on all the tracks, the knobs are in different places depending on the track height, so I have to keep reading the labels to find the right one [I have put coloured spots on some of the controls so you can see how they have moved about),
- even if I increase the TCP width, the maximum number of knobs on each row is 3.
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(PS doesn't this show how useful user-tinting would be? )
I think I might like to coordinate the colors with envelopes especially if we had those extra envelope colors.
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