Old 09-30-2021, 08:00 AM   #1
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I try to avoid Jack for simplicity and I use an old Motu as a mixer to send both 204HD and builtin outputs to monitors.

Do you guys have another way of doing this or this the 'usual way' when using Alsa in Reaper ?
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:12 AM   #2
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Try Alsa Mixer- to give you a GUI

https://www.maketecheasier.com/alsa-...-command-line/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/aomix/

https://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download

If you have a problem maybe it is PULSE? did you autosuspend it in Reaper? tc
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:15 AM   #3
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I use Jack for when I'm working alone and have to connect together different software, like Chrome < > Reaper.
When working with Reaper and clients I use just ALSA.
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Old 09-30-2021, 08:16 AM   #4
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I try to avoid Jack for simplicity and I use an old Motu as a mixer to send both 204HD and builtin outputs to monitors.

Do you guys have another way of doing this or this the 'usual way' when using Alsa in Reaper ?
I use a Samson C-Control audio monitor controller that has four switchable inputs setup like this.

1. Behringer UMC1820/ADA8200 for REAPER
2. Motherboard audio for everything else
3. V-Drums audio for jamming and practicing drums
4. 2nd video monitor audio (security system/Roku/Raspberry Pi)

I can jam around on bass, guitar and V-Drums while playing YouTube music videos, and while streaming music from Roku and Kodi. Essentially, everything can play at the same time.
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Old 09-30-2021, 09:00 AM   #5
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Try Alsa Mixer- to give you a GUI

https://www.maketecheasier.com/alsa-...-command-line/

https://sourceforge.net/projects/aomix/

https://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Download

If you have a problem maybe it is PULSE? did you autosuspend it in Reaper? tc
I already use alsamixer in terminal but that does not make Youtube play when Reaper is opened.

The analog mixer as it's advantages at home but on the road with a laptop it's a little too much.
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Old 09-30-2021, 10:11 AM   #6
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I'm not an expert, but as far as I understand it, with plain alsa, using multiple audio sources simultaneously is difficult if not impossible. For general multimedia there are solutions like PulseAudio, but that's not designed for the kind precision and latency that DAWs need, so it doesn't perform well with DAWs... Reaper wants full control of the audio interface in order to work reliably, so other sources are just blocked.

Personally I just don't even try to use other audio applications while I have Reaper open. Luckily I don't generally need them...
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I'm not an expert, but as far as I understand it, with plain alsa, using multiple audio sources simultaneously is difficult if not impossible. For general multimedia there are solutions like PulseAudio, but that's not designed for the kind precision and latency that DAWs need, so it doesn't perform well with DAWs... Reaper wants full control of the audio interface in order to work reliably, so other sources are just blocked.

Personally I just don't even try to use other audio applications while I have Reaper open. Luckily I don't generally need them...
This is my understanding as well. ALSA is the lowest level audio tool and generally connects to one sound device. JACK and Pulse Audio (and now Pipewire) servers are essentially the layer above ALSA and below the applications that allow applications to share the ALSA access--JACK being the low latency (Pro-Audio) server, Pulse Audio being the easy-to-use, set-n-forget (Consumer) level audio Server that happens to use a lot of latency, and the new PipeWire, which manages to combine the capabilities of the JACK and Pulse Audio servers with the benefits of not conflicting with each other and being low latency.
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Although I haven't got around to doing this myself ( which i will eventually do hopefully ) I believe what you are trying to achieve can be done using 'dmix' here is a link that will maybe get you started if you want to have a go at it. Remember to backup any files that you are editing and maybe take notes on the changes that you are making to your system.

https://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...ams-using-alsa
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I think REAPER wants exclusive access to all audio when using ALSA so it may not be possible.

Pipewire or Jack with pulseaudio-jack package can do it.

In Cadence, it has a GUI to easily start and stop a bridge for Pulseaudio to Jack.
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Although I haven't got around to doing this myself ( which i will eventually do hopefully ) I believe what you are trying to achieve can be done using 'dmix' here is a link that will maybe get you started if you want to have a go at it. Remember to backup any files that you are editing and maybe take notes on the changes that you are making to your system.

https://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...ams-using-alsa
That's a garanteed headache for me today ! I don't have time for this the analog mixer feels so cool compared to this solution ! lol !!

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Old 10-02-2021, 11:26 AM   #11
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The problem is Reaper does not support setting a custom pcm device like pcm.default, so what ever at least in my case I shove into asoundrc and try route and split does not work with it and think by now I've exausted if not all possibilities.
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