Old 06-23-2017, 10:12 AM   #1
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Hey everyone...thanks for helping the noobie wan kanoobie...I have a midi drum track that sounds pretty cool but the drummer didn't play to a click and so even though I got it closer to the click (Thanks to Kenny Gioia's videos ) it's still a bit off. is there anything I can do to tighten it further? Thanks in advance...Jim
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Old 06-23-2017, 02:11 PM   #2
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Hey everyone...thanks for helping the noobie wan kanoobie...I have a midi drum track that sounds pretty cool but the drummer didn't play to a click and so even though I got it closer to the click (Thanks to Kenny Gioia's videos ) it's still a bit off. is there anything I can do to tighten it further? Thanks in advance...Jim
Hi Jim, the problem is we don't know what the problem(s) is/are and we don't know what you've done so far?

You say it's a midi track, and there are all kinds of considerations with that.

Try give more detail of what you have and what you want.
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Old 06-25-2017, 12:14 AM   #3
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Did you 'quantize' the midi track? - hit the red 'Q' in the midi editor. I think Kenney did a vid also, someone surely did so check the tube.

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Old 06-28-2017, 07:31 AM   #4
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Hi,

EDIT....

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.p...antizing+tempo


http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=87469

The first link is with starting with a midi track, the second starts with audio and has my action macro at the end.
Sorry I can only paste at the beginning of post.
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If the drums are the only track, then I would,
Tempo map the song...
Then, with time base set back to beats remove most of the tempo changes.

That will sound much better there. At that point you can quantize.
I saw you said noob, but once you tempo map successfully once it becomes easy.

You can't quantize now because you said the drums don't match the click at times.
You have to make the click match the midi first...which will probably have tempo drift in the playing. Once the click is matched, you remove the tempo drift and the midi will follow.
If there other are other tracks that you want to keep, then its another ball game.

I'll look for a tutorial I did ages ago.
Basicly what I do is record a midi note on the one of every bar in time w the drums, then go to the drum track and extract the "groove"..timing...with sws fingers groove tool. Then apply that groove to my every on the one midi.

You now can use the create time SIG from time selection. Sounds harder than it is. Just get you time bases right.....use the sws action set items to ignore project tempo when you don't want midi to move when you adjust grid.
Then put it back to beats when you've removed the unwanted tempo changes.

There is also breeders ..tempo mapping with sws.... in the wiki. Since I already had my method down before the sws method came out I never tried it.

And remember to work on a copy of the song. And save w new name at every successful step.
Good luck

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