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09-25-2017, 09:00 AM
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Separate envelope lane that always shows the last touched parameter
hey guys,
I'd love to have an envelope lane that always shows the last touched FX parameter. I know there is a "show last touched fx parameter" option, but this always creates a new envelope. I'd like to have a special envelope that always shows the last touched parameter without any need of further clicks. There also should be an action "toggle show last touched parameter envelope" to make it (in-)visible.
This lane always should be the first envelope lane directly under each track.
Advantages: saving many mouse clicks can really speed up everybody's work using envelopes lanes.
Bitwig Studio and I think Ableton Live have this behaviour and it's fantastic! It really should show any parameter (even volume and pan, not only fx parameters).
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09-27-2017, 11:44 PM
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can't imagine that nobody's interested in that??
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09-28-2017, 12:46 AM
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I am. (Not completely same maybe, but similar direction I think)
https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=87665
(The screencap is gone meanwhile unfortunately.)
Last edited by nofish; 09-28-2017 at 12:52 AM.
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09-28-2017, 12:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gass n Klang
can't imagine that nobody's interested in that??
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Yes, it's a very neat idea , me like !
Not exactly what you want but did you try this already ?:
Custom action:
Envelope: Hide all envelopes for tracks
FX: Show/hide track envelope for last touched FX parameter
The advantage of this is: only envelope for last touched envelope shows up, so no envelope lanes clutter for a Track.
I assume you can make it even a cycle action, so the second time you press a keyshort linked to the action, the envelope lane for last touched parameter hides again, showing you only the track media lane and no (active) envelopes at all.
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09-28-2017, 02:20 AM
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#5
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thanks vanhaze, this workaround is nice but not the same. The big advantage of a separate "last touched parameter envelope lane" is that no shortcut is needed. It also doesn't work for panning and volume (these are no fx parameters) The lane updates every time you click on a new parameter. So that saves one shortcut everytime you click on a parameter you wanna automate.
But I'll do it that way until this feature is hopefully implemented. Thanks for that!
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09-28-2017, 02:32 AM
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Yeah, i hear ya ; the need of using a keyshortcut to trigger the action is quite cumbersome.
I don't think your wish is scriptable.
I assume Cockos is the only one that can make your wish happen, implementing the feature into Reaper.
Fingers crossed cause i think alot of folks would appreciate your wishful feature.
including moi. 🙏🏼👊🏼
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09-28-2017, 02:37 AM
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mmm good idea... and scriptable.. I think
I think REAPER doesn't detect last touched parameter, but last changed parameter.
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09-28-2017, 02:41 AM
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That would be amazing heda !
So a script could actually "monitor" if you click on a plugin parameter button/fader, so that the script then will execute ?!
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09-28-2017, 03:05 AM
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Yes, Similar to Track Inspector when you right click in the + param button which monitors all the parameters you change to add them to TCP control. But this would be run that custom action to hide all envelopes and show last touched.
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09-28-2017, 03:07 AM
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Awesome !! 💪🏼🙏🏼
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09-28-2017, 03:50 AM
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sounds nice thanks man!
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09-28-2017, 04:22 AM
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I think it's working. I had to do some checks for new last touched parameters to avoid constant envelope hiding and showing.
Next it would be to do it for volume and pan too.
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09-28-2017, 04:38 AM
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Wooohaaaa !!
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09-28-2017, 05:00 AM
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heh seeing exciting comments makes development more fun, thanks
I have a problem with volume and pan if this setting is set to always: When adding volume/pan envelopes apply trim to envelope and reset trim. Because it resets fader to 0.0 each time the volume envelope is shown
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09-28-2017, 05:06 AM
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Hi heda,
For me personally, i don't care if it not works ok for volume and pan envelopes.
The fact that you made it happen for fx plugin parameters is just awesome enough !
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09-28-2017, 05:56 AM
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great man! "Mute" would be nice as well :P
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11-05-2017, 04:53 AM
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That's most wanted feature!I've installed your script,track inspector shows up but i cant find the LT env button..Is it in the VIP version ?
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02-12-2018, 12:22 PM
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Noticed this and looks cool,
Is v close to something am After.
I really wanted for along time now just a v simple little display that tells me what the last touched parameter actually is, in a nice readable form - because using the feature i can often can lose track of what the controller is controlling.
Questions has this been done somewhere and i missed it or possible to knock up to my eternal gratitude..?
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02-15-2018, 05:06 AM
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to have something like this directly in Reaper wouldbe massively Awesome
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02-15-2018, 05:13 AM
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#20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vagelis
That's most wanted feature!I've installed your script,track inspector shows up but i cant find the LT env button..Is it in the VIP version ?
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ah.. yes
sorry I didn't see your post.
It is only in VIP version for now
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02-15-2018, 05:26 PM
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#21
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Requested this like 100 times too haha.
Here's the thing -- Reaper could easily implement all the things that are great in Ableton (Area Selection, Show Last Touched Param...) but it would take a gigantic undertaking to do the reverse. I just wish they looked more to Ableton for ideas, because it would make Reaper unbeatable!
So +1 on this haha
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02-15-2018, 06:24 PM
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#22
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Cewl!
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10-18-2018, 06:09 PM
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#23
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still love to see that feature.
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10-21-2018, 11:22 AM
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#24
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+1 Seems to be a nifty feature.
Masi
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03-18-2020, 07:19 AM
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#25
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still waiting for that
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09-15-2023, 09:12 PM
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#26
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Bump! This would be a very nice to have natively.
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12-04-2023, 01:25 AM
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#27
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Bump. Native integratoon with pan and volune would be great
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