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11-23-2015, 05:51 AM
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Okay, wise guys: Time to spill the beans on any Black Friday sale related shenanigans
Know of any crazy plug-in 90% discounts and where? Online stores blowing out tube amps at half price?
Let's deposit any info of that sort here, so somebody who's wanted a certain plug or piece of gear but couldn't afford it may find it within their grubby grasp, or somebody holding back because of familial or financial responsibility can rightly punch that crap in the face and just quit being such a damn pussy already.
I'll start. Melda Production is going to be running a 50% sale on all their plugs starting on Black Friday and running through the end of the following monday, European time (does Europe only have one time zone? Because that's what it said in the e-mail, just "European time," so if it's not accurate enough it's their fault, not mine, I don't live in Europe).
I know Melda is always running 50% off something, but this is for everything they have, so if there's a particular plug you want of theirs that you've been waiting to come around, well, there you go.
https://www.meldaproduction.com/
Okay, let's see what else is out there.
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11-23-2015, 06:59 AM
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Well, it's been on sale for a little bit, but Steven Slate Drums 4 Platinum is $99 as opposed to the usual $249.
Trigger 2 is also on sale for $99
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11-23-2015, 07:38 AM
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MCDSP
Hello,
60% off. Sale ends November 30 !
http://mcdsp.com/
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11-23-2015, 09:27 AM
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Looking at the fabfilter pro q2. Demoed it recently and loved it. Currently $151 at plugin discounts.
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11-23-2015, 10:04 AM
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You almost emptied my wallet faster than my ex wife!
It's actually the Tsar (1) which you've confused with the (1R). But at $29.99 I still might pull the trigger.
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11-23-2015, 10:18 AM
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Does anybody have the Tsar1R and knows what it sounds like.
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11-23-2015, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bobtom1
You almost emptied my wallet faster than my ex wife!
It's actually the Tsar (1) which you've confused with the (1R). But at $29.99 I still might pull the trigger.
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No, it's the Tsar1R which I haven't confused with the Tsar1
I have put up the wrong review though!
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11-23-2015, 10:21 AM
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Does anybody have the Tsar1R and knows what it sounds like.
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On it's way. And I can confirm it is the Tsar1R that I have ordered for $29.
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11-23-2015, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Tod
Does anybody have the Tsar1R and knows what it sounds like.
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I haven't tried it but have read good reviews. It does require an ilok account though and there's a 20 day demo you can download from the Softube site.
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11-23-2015, 10:26 AM
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Does anybody have the Tsar1R and knows what it sounds like.
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On it's way.
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11-23-2015, 10:26 AM
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No, it's the Tsar1R which I haven't confused with the Tsar1
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Check again. It's definitely the Tsar1 which is $269 on the Softube site. The 1R is the cut-down version. Still a nice sounding verb according to the reviews I've read.
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11-23-2015, 10:32 AM
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keeping an eye on this thread
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11-23-2015, 10:35 AM
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Check again. It's definitely the Tsar1 which is $269 on the Softube site. The 1R is the cut-down version. Still a nice sounding verb according to the reviews I've read.
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Yes, as above I put the wrong links.
The $99 price relates to 1R which is the product I said was for sale.
The review and link I provided are for it's big brother.
It's this:
http://www.softube.com/index.php?id=tsar1r
So "only" $99 worth for $29.
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11-23-2015, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Softsynth
Yes, as above I put the wrong links.
The $99 price relates to 1R which is the product I said was for sale.
The review and link I provided are for it's big brother.
It's this:
http://www.softube.com/index.php?id=tsar1r
So "only" $99 worth for $29.
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Your original post said 'Tsar1R $269 on Softtube's own website' but let's agree to disagree. I don't want to clog up this thread with unrelated stuff.
As long as people know the difference between the '1R' and the '1' when making their choice that's all that matters. We don't want people spending their cash on one thing when they think they're getting the other.
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11-23-2015, 10:55 AM
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@ Tod I have heard TSAR1 (the bigger brother of TSAR1R) strains CPU pretty much. So maybe TSAR1R is more CPU-friendly ?-! You should download trial version and find out whether it is right up your alley !
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11-23-2015, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bobtom1
Your original post said 'Tsar1R $269 on Softtube's own website' but let's agree to disagree. I don't want to clog up this thread with unrelated stuff.
As long as people know the difference between the '1R' and the '1' when making their choice that's all that matters. We don't want people spending their cash on one thing when they think they're getting the other.
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I'm not disagreeing.
I was clarifying that I made a mistake on the links, but that the product I stated was for sale originally was the 1R.
I had confused the review AND the webpage, but not the name of the product that I said was on sale. That's all.
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11-23-2015, 12:13 PM
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TH3 is here !
"Overloud releases TH3, the world's largest collection of guitar amp models in a single plugin."
Now 33% off !
For electric-, bass- and acoustic- guitars !
Anyone any experience with overloud ?
http://www.overloud.com/products/th3.php
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11-23-2015, 12:19 PM
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Does anybody have the Tsar1R and knows what it sounds like.
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Usually 'discount' single reviews, but found this of interest.
http://en.audiofanzine.com/algorithm.../user_reviews/
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11-23-2015, 12:41 PM
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On it's way. And I can confirm it is the Tsar1R that I have ordered for $29.
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I haven't tried it but have read good reviews. It does require an ilok account though and there's a 20 day demo you can download from the Softube site.
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Thanks for the replies, I'll have to think about this, I'm not real enthused about dongles or iloks but I'm still going to give it a thought.
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11-23-2015, 01:25 PM
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Thanks for the replies, I'll have to think about this, I'm not real enthused about dongles or iloks but I'm still going to give it a thought.
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I didn't know about any of that and now regret buying it due to hassle.
You have to download their entire catalogue and enable the one you've got to show in menus, hiding the others AND install and sign up to iLock. So around 600mb for a 1 or 2mb product (that would be instantaneous if it was a Valhalla plugin) and key lock nonsense AND installer nonsense.
I suppose it should be all over once finally installed though.
It had better be a jaw dropper for all that!
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11-23-2015, 01:56 PM
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I didn't know about any of that and now regret buying it due to hassle.
You have to download their entire catalogue and enable the one you've got to show in menus, hiding the others AND install and sign up to iLock. So around 600mb for a 1 or 2mb product (that would be instantaneous if it was a Valhalla plugin) and key lock nonsense AND installer nonsense.
I suppose it should be all over once finally installed though.
It had better be a jaw dropper for all that!
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.......AND you have to register with Softube before you can register it with iLok too!!!
Yikes.
A tiny algorithm plugin where you have to read the manual BEFORE you can begin to install it.
Oh dear, this is a faff.....
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11-23-2015, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniovan
TH3 is here !
"Overloud releases TH3, the world's largest collection of guitar amp models in a single plugin."
Now 33% off !
For electric-, bass- and acoustic- guitars !
Anyone any experience with overloud ?
http://www.overloud.com/products/th3.php
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I have used Overloud TH2 in the past, and in my opinion, it is one of the best amp sims out there. Excited to see a new release!
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11-23-2015, 02:34 PM
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After the horrible installation system (they deserve to lose sales for that horrid mess of a procedure) it is another really great sounding reverb.
So if you are happy:
Downloading about 600mb of baggage and installation garbage, reading the manual to install it! then yes I can recommend it.
I'm almost annoyed it sounds good, as I was tempted to uninstall it and write it off.
I can recommend it even if you have all the Valhalla plugins or similar because it is different sounding reverb again.
Valhalla has a better user interface (though this is extremely simple) and is infinitely less difficult to install that's for sure.
No doubt others will have iLok already on their systems, know the procedure and think I'm whinging about nothing.
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11-23-2015, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Softsynth
.......AND you have to register with Softube before you can register it with iLok too!!!
Yikes.
A tiny algorithm plugin where you have to read the manual BEFORE you can begin to install it.
Oh dear, this is a faff.....
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Yep. I tried to demo the big brother (TSAR-1) some time ago and stopped when I saw the nasty installation routine. Would gladly pay $29 for the smaller version if a single plugin installer were provided.
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11-23-2015, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniovan
TH3 is here !
"Overloud releases TH3, the world's largest collection of guitar amp models in a single plugin."
Now 33% off !
For electric-, bass- and acoustic- guitars !
Anyone any experience with overloud ?
http://www.overloud.com/products/th3.php
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Big thanks for the heads up on this. I've been using Amplitude SVT for bass but was never really satisfied.
Through your link I found the Mark Studio 2 plugin which, after watching a few YouTube videos, looks and sounds exactly what I've been after soundwise for the bass. I'll have to demo it to be 100% sure.
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11-23-2015, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Softsynth
After the horrible installation system (they deserve to lose sales for that horrid mess of a procedure) it is another really great sounding reverb.
So if you are happy:
Downloading about 600mb of baggage and installation garbage, reading the manual to install it! then yes I can recommend it.
I'm almost annoyed it sounds good, as I was tempted to uninstall it and write it off.
I can recommend it even if you have all the Valhalla plugins or similar because it is different sounding reverb again.
Valhalla has a better user interface (though this is extremely simple) and is infinitely less difficult to install that's for sure.
No doubt others will have iLok already on their systems, know the procedure and think I'm whinging about nothing.
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After all that palaver with installation I'm glad it sounds good.
I know it's early days but how does it compare/differ to Valhalla in your opinion. I already have valhalla room so would be interested in how it compares to that if possible.
I will be demoing tsar when i get the chance.
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11-23-2015, 04:26 PM
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After all that palaver with installation I'm glad it sounds good.
I know it's early days but how does it compare/differ to Valhalla in your opinion. I already have valhalla room so would be interested in how it compares to that if possible.
I will be demoing tsar when i get the chance.
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Comparing Valhalla Room to TSAR 1R
TSAR1R is far less adjustable in terms of settings.
It also has far less patches/presets than any of the Valhalla reverbs. However you can cycle through them in the Reaper preset/patch window with the mouse wheel, unlike Valhalla.
However it simply sounds good so this will appeal to people and times when you don't want options, you just want a sound that you know.
It has a small GUI, a little dated simply by the size, but due to simplicity it won't matter unless using a very high res monitor such as a 4k model.
The balance in Valhalla reverbs tends to need to be immediately turned down (since they are super wet) to get a realistic sound. If anything the Softube product is the other way. You can increase the wet to dry ratio and still have a realistic balance on many patches.
Valhalla typically colours the sound more, this TSAR 1R is more lean with perhaps less soundstage depth effect (but make no mistake you can go for the cavern effect too with adjustment) but also less coloration, perhaps closer to IR hall reverbs (those from real halls) but not quite as realistic as an IR convolution.
From immediate settings (and even after adjusting wet balance down)Valhalla changes the sample or the synth more than the softube product, but it does so in a pleasing way, it's more coloured but pleasing. Whatever the preset and whatever I do with the settings Softube is crisper and clearer but less characterful. So both have their place.
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11-23-2015, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Softsynth
Comparing Valhalla Room to TSAR 1R
TSAR1R is far less adjustable in terms of settings.
It also has far less patches/presets than any of the Valhalla reverbs. However you can cycle through them in the Reaper preset/patch window with the mouse wheel, unlike Valhalla.
However it simply sounds good so this will appeal to people and times when you don't want options, you just want a sound that you know.
It has a small GUI, a little dated simply by the size, but due to simplicity it won't matter unless using a very high res monitor such as a 4k model.
The balance in Valhalla reverbs tends to need to be immediately turned down (since they are super wet) to get a realistic sound. If anything the Softube product is the other way. You can increase the wet to dry ratio and still have a realistic balance on many patches.
Valhalla typically colours the sound more, this TSAR 1R is more lean with perhaps less soundstage depth effect (but make no mistake you can go for the cavern effect too with adjustment) but also less coloration, perhaps closer to IR hall reverbs (those from real halls) but not quite as realistic as an IR convolution.
From immediate settings (and even after adjusting wet balance down)Valhalla changes the sample or the synth more than the softube product, but it does so in a pleasing way, it's more coloured but pleasing. Whatever the preset and whatever I do with the settings Softube is crisper and clearer but less characterful. So both have their place.
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Valhalla Room would be the one to compare to TSAR. All Valhalla reverbs instantiate 100% wet, don't they? Presumably because they expect them to be used most frequently on aux sends.
Here's a little about TSAR from the horse's mouth: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/10405342-post6.html
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11-23-2015, 05:04 PM
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A short version would be:
TSAR1R Clean, lean and typically more accurate/realistic IMHO. less characterful. Less of it's own stamp on the sound. Basic controls but effective. Good results quickly.
Valhalla: Typically rich, more 3d depth, pleasing smoothing effect but more coloured. Greater options to fiddle and more required potentially to get it to work in a mix. Moreish pleasing character nonetheless.
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11-23-2015, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Softsynth
Comparing Valhalla Room to TSAR 1R
TSAR1R is far less adjustable in terms of settings.
It also has far less patches/presets than any of the Valhalla reverbs. However you can cycle through them in the Reaper preset/patch window with the mouse wheel, unlike Valhalla.
However it simply sounds good so this will appeal to people and times when you don't want options, you just want a sound that you know.
It has a small GUI, a little dated simply by the size, but due to simplicity it won't matter unless using a very high res monitor such as a 4k model.
The balance in Valhalla reverbs tends to need to be immediately turned down (since they are super wet) to get a realistic sound. If anything the Softube product is the other way. You can increase the wet to dry ratio and still have a realistic balance on many patches.
Valhalla typically colours the sound more, this TSAR 1R is more lean with perhaps less soundstage depth effect (but make no mistake you can go for the cavern effect too with adjustment) but also less coloration, perhaps closer to IR hall reverbs (those from real halls) but not quite as realistic as an IR convolution.
From immediate settings (and even after adjusting wet balance down)Valhalla changes the sample or the synth more than the softube product, but it does so in a pleasing way, it's more coloured but pleasing. Whatever the preset and whatever I do with the settings Softube is crisper and clearer but less characterful. So both have their place.
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Thanks Softsynth, that's a pretty good synopsis.
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11-23-2015, 05:16 PM
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Valhalla Room would be the one to compare to TSAR. All Valhalla reverbs instantiate 100% wet, don't they? Presumably because they expect them to be used most frequently on aux sends.
Here's a little about TSAR from the horse's mouth: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/10405342-post6.html
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Thanks for that. Not read that before, interesting. Convolution reverb still sounds the most realistic to me, but this is great too.
I jumped in rather quickly, finally glad I did (really wasn't sure for a while) as the install process is horrible- I missed out the steps where I had to reinstall it (using admin rights) because it crashed Reaper on start up.
As you noticed I did compare directly to Valhalla Room.
The reverberant field reproduction is so important to the final sound.
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11-23-2015, 05:17 PM
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I bought TSAR1-R on a super sale this time last year. Used it a fair bit initially but less so recently.
Not sure why - I just seem to forget it when reaching for a reverb.
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Thanks Softsynth, that's a pretty good synopsis.
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Cheers Tod.
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Originally Posted by ivansc
I bought TSAR1-R on a super sale this time last year. Used it a fair bit initially but less so recently.
Not sure why - I just seem to forget it when reaching for a reverb.
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I can understand that. Valhalla (or similar) for character, and convolution for realism. Half way house gets forgotten?
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11-23-2015, 05:24 PM
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Convolution reverb still sounds the most realistic to me...
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Me too, but in modern genres realistic reverb is often just too muddy and gums up the works. You don't get good separation of instruments when speed metal is played in a concert hall
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11-23-2015, 05:32 PM
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Me too, but in modern genres realistic reverb is often just too muddy and gums up the works. You don't get good separation of instruments when speed metal is played in a concert hall
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Convolution reverbs like Reflektor can do all the ambients, springs, small rooms, plate reverbs and wild effects too though. I could happily do everything in Reflektor. This is just a nerdy indulgence. It is also nice to blend reverbs to get the character of more than one type.
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11-23-2015, 05:47 PM
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Convolution reverbs like Reflektor can do all the ambients, springs, small rooms, plate reverbs and wild effects too though. I could happily do everything in Reflektor. This is just a nerdy indulgence. It is also nice to blend reverbs to get the character of more than one type.
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Yeah, I used to use IR's almost exclusively, except for when I wanted a cheesy reverb sound for synths or SFX. I still like them for room ambience and the odd bullhorn or telephone effect, as well as speaker cabinets for amp emulations. Where algo reverbs come into their own is modulation, though bluzcat recently linked to an interesting convolution reverb that modulates the tail here: http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...0&postcount=50
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11-23-2015, 05:52 PM
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Yeah, I used to use IR's almost exclusively, except for when I wanted a cheesy reverb sound for synths or SFX. I still like them for room ambience and the odd bullhorn or telephone effect, as well as speaker cabinets for amp emulations. Where algo reverbs come into their own is modulation, though bluzcat recently linked to an interesting convolution reverb that modulates the tail here: http://forum.cockos.com/showpost.php...0&postcount=50
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Reverberate 2.0 interesting, didn't know about that one. Cheers.
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11-23-2015, 06:01 PM
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Yeah, Reverberate 2 really has me interested but it's beyond my range right now, even though I'm sure it's worth it. Modulation is where it's at and plain old convolution reverbs do sound static, although that's not always a bad thing.
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