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Yes, there is automatic saving but LUNA will have something quite different in the sense that there is no save button at all and only a history timeline to navigate if you want to backtrack as a sort of unlimited persistent "undo" list, I suppose. Great for someone's workflow, I'm sure, but not for mine.
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01-23-2020, 04:01 AM
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A DAW tied to a certain HW and OS is soooo 1992!
Just like the old days when Digidesign bundled PT as a freeware with their Hardware products.
You want ProTools? You must use what we sell...you have no choice 😂
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01-23-2020, 08:39 AM
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I just watched a fairly long video, and gotta' say, the workflow is VERY impressive !!
Think of it, they are starting a fresh code base in 2020, bound to be some good "standing on the shoulders of giants" stuff in there
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01-23-2020, 08:45 AM
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Doomed. Someone at UA has sold everyone on the idea this will sell hardware, and lock them in magically like Pro Tools has done by default -
... except people are migrating from Pro Tools because of that.
"Let's bake the cookies an extra 10 minutes, maybe they'll be better that way!" = most software companies.
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01-23-2020, 09:47 AM
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UA are already obsolete. They jumped on the Protools ship originally a little too late. They filled a big void when there still weren't any solid usable plugin compressors. But their days were already numbered with native computer processing ability around the corner that would eclipse the hardware accelerator cards in Protools HD and the UA accelerator card they patterned off Protools.
Now we have native processing that launches this all into orbit and all kinds of compressor plugins to choose from. I might not even look past the ReaComp if I were starting fresh today.
The elephant in the room is UA is probably riding out their last days by using their required obsolete hardware as a form of copy protection. There's really no other logical reason they'd stay obsolete with their plugins needing hardware acceleration like this.
The development of this Luna DAW was probably low cost. Maybe they hope they'll get some people gaslit into thinking the pci cards are analog in some mysterious way (they aren't) or some shit or get users who bought one of their interfaces with the acceleration built in locked in to their system for a little longer.
This fits right in to this computer gaslighting that's been the thing for the last few years. I include the post-Jobs Macs in that comment.
Heh, I have Macs and a UA card but I apparently think a better use of my time is posting snarky comments about it on the Reaper forum instead of trying it. :P
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01-23-2020, 10:05 AM
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Workflow is really the only place where a new DAW like this can improve on. Mixbuss proved that some years ago and probably inspired UAD to follow suit. Nothing out right now is perfect IMO, but you just sorta get used to what you use. UAD will need to offer some big obvious things like 2x more processing compared to other DAWs, much easier and quicker (200% faster) editing, free blow jobs, etc...
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01-23-2020, 10:23 AM
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UA are already obsolete. They jumped on the Protools ship originally a little too late. They filled a big void when there still weren't any solid usable plugin compressors. But their days were already numbered with native computer processing ability around the corner that would eclipse the hardware accelerator cards in Protools HD and the UA accelerator card they patterned off Protools.
Now we have native processing that launches this all into orbit and all kinds of compressor plugins to choose from. I might not even look past the ReaComp if I were starting fresh today.
The elephant in the room is UA is probably riding out their last days by using their required obsolete hardware as a form of copy protection. There's really no other logical reason they'd stay obsolete with their plugins needing hardware acceleration like this.
The development of this Luna DAW was probably low cost. Maybe they hope they'll get some people gaslit into thinking the pci cards are analog in some mysterious way (they aren't) or some shit or get users who bought one of their interfaces with the acceleration built in locked in to their system for a little longer.
This fits right in to this computer gaslighting that's been the thing for the last few years. I include the post-Jobs Macs in that comment.
Heh, I have Macs and a UA card but I apparently think a better use of my time is posting snarky comments about it on the Reaper forum instead of trying it. :P
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Won't run on UAD cards -- only TB Apollos.
Luna uses native CPU processing for Tape sim and Channel summing, DSP for all else, so it's a hybrid.
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01-23-2020, 11:09 AM
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Won't run on UAD cards -- only TB Apollos.
Luna uses native CPU processing for Tape sim and Channel summing, DSP for all else, so it's a hybrid.
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Oh yeah? So... it's not only obsolete to begin with but doesn't even have compatibility with UA across the board? That's a pretty special combination there if that's the case! Trade show's gonna be awkward...
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01-23-2020, 11:32 AM
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I just watched a fairly long video, and gotta' say, the workflow is VERY impressive !!
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I respectfully disagree. I watched the livestreams and was thinking the whole time that there was absolutely nothing to tempt me to buy into UA hardware for the privilege of using their new DAW. After all, everything can be achieved with existing low-cost (Reaper, Ardour, Mixbus) or free DAWs (Ardour via Linux distros, Cakewalk, Traktion/Waveform etc) with appropriate stock and 3rd-party plugins.
I suppose that it's great (a free gift) for existing UA users but that alone won't bring them new revenue. The question is whether a free DAW will tempt people to buy into UA (specifically Apollo or Arrow devices) who have never used them before and who are no doubt happy with the performance of their existing products. I argue strongly that the answer will be a resounding "no".
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01-23-2020, 11:46 AM
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Oh yeah? So... it's not only obsolete to begin with but doesn't even have compatibility with UA across the board? That's a pretty special combination there if that's the case! Trade show's gonna be awkward...
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I'm just reporting what I know, I defer to your superior marketing knowledge...
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01-23-2020, 11:55 AM
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I respectfully disagree. I watched the livestreams and was thinking the whole time that there was absolutely nothing to tempt me to buy into UA hardware for the privilege of using their new DAW. After all, everything can be achieved with existing low-cost (Reaper, Ardour, Mixbus) or free DAWs (Ardour via Linux distros, Cakewalk, Traktion/Waveform etc) with appropriate stock and 3rd-party plugins.
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Agree, I felt exactly the same watching the NAMM livestream.
I watched a longer video -- about 1/2 hour, British cat named Tom, google it if interested, LUNA is a lot more full featured than is shown in the livestream.
I used to do this for a living and I now do it as a hobby, and what I saw had VERY smooth workflow -- well thought out.
I'm sure there are stupid things, silly things, nasty things, it's a V1.
I'm going to try it, then make a judgement.
Until then, feel free to call me a fanboy -- I'll counter -- nope -- I'm just a simple optimist
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01-23-2020, 12:22 PM
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I'm just reporting what I know, I defer to your superior marketing knowledge...
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Haha.
The marketing guys will have you convinced that you need the new thing.
I'm the guy that will tell you "Hold on, you don't need to buy anything. Just do this tweak and you're good to go with no compromise." I'll shoot myself in the foot every time as a salesman and put effort into doing it!
Sometimes I get excited when I read a new brochure. Not this one obviously.
I suppose I'll sit back and watch it play out and see how wrong my prediction was, right?
I would have thought UA would have died by now with their hardware needing plugins. I would have thought the disposable thing Apple morphed into after Steve Jobs left would have been the end of them too. Yet, here we are.
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01-23-2020, 12:32 PM
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Well, the OS and hardware restrictions mean that even if this was the greatest DAW ever made, I couldn't trial it in any case. The official livestream, for most people I would argue, should be the most exciting reveal given it is their baby and they should know all its features that would "wow" prospective buyers of their hardware. Another own-goal there as I found the whole thing messy, rushed and the banter atrocious. I will google that other video you mentioned though and see if my mind can be changed. I'm not calling anyone a fanboy here and being an optimist is fine by me
I just return to the idea in 2020 of someone bothering to code a DAW from the ground up (we'll have to take their word on that for now) to only offer it to a narrow slice of the audio market. If they are actually planning a Windows (or Linux) version and uncoupled from their hardware in the future, the launch would have been the time to say so and keep people's attention.
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01-24-2020, 03:07 AM
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What UAD really needed was a hardware product that makes their platform relevant in 2020. Nowadays one can get many times more plugins using the native processor than UAD DSP. Their best bet to avoid gradually fading out of existence is a massively powered DSP engine (maybe 10 times their current offerings) with no latency. Then they have something to sell, and maybe a DAW product to use it would help them going forward.
Their current offerings are so under powered that no included DAW will sway many users.
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Haha.
The marketing guys will have you convinced that you need the new thing.
I'm the guy that will tell you "Hold on, you don't need to buy anything. Just do this tweak and you're good to go with no compromise." I'll shoot myself in the foot every time as a salesman and put effort into doing it!
Sometimes I get excited when I read a new brochure. Not this one obviously.
I suppose I'll sit back and watch it play out and see how wrong my prediction was, right?
I would have thought UA would have died by now with their hardware needing plugins. I would have thought the disposable thing Apple morphed into after Steve Jobs left would have been the end of them too. Yet, here we are.
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01-24-2020, 03:53 AM
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What UAD really needed was a hardware product that makes their platform relevant in 2020. Nowadays one can get many times more plugins using the native processor than UAD DSP. Their best bet to avoid gradually fading out of existence is a massively powered DSP engine (maybe 10 times their current offerings) with no latency. Then they have something to sell, and maybe a DAW product to use it would help them going forward.
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I dunno...
The LUNA tape and summing plugins run natively on the host, all else is on the DSP chips.
I think they were wise to go hybrid, opening the door to native down the road.
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Their current offerings are so under powered that no included DAW will sway many users.
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01-24-2020, 04:17 AM
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The LUNA tape and summing plugins run natively on the host, all else is on the DSP chips.
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Afaik, Luna itself, all the extensions and instruments and naturally all the 3rd party AU plugins run native. UAD plugins which were DSP are still that.
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01-24-2020, 04:46 AM
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Their best bet to avoid gradually fading out of existence is a massively powered DSP engine (maybe 10 times their current offerings) with no latency. Then they have something to sell, and maybe a DAW product to use it would help them going forward.
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Regarding price/performance ratio they hardly can win the race against the increasing processing power of standard CPUs.
I vote for Cockos giving some love to a more versatile ReaMote variant, allowing to use multiple standard boxes as DSPs via GBit Ethernet.
Regarding UAD, IMHO a much better idea would be to provide or OEM VST plugins that access their hardware to provide minimal latency, usable with any DAW.
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01-24-2020, 05:33 AM
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It seems like the Internet in general is really kind of overthinking or overanalyzing the entire thing:
1. They sell Thunderbolt audio devices. I assume some people would buy and use those devices whether Luna existed or not.
2. For anyone who does own those devices, Luna is a free choice to try to see if it may have some benefit for tracking, mixing, whatever. If not, you've not lost anything but the time it takes to try it out.
All of the rest of it is more just the typical Internet daw war stuff where some appear to always assume that every new daw is created with the intention to 'rule the market' or please everyone, or have some major impact on a company's bottom line.
It's just another free option for some people, nothing more, nothing less.
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01-24-2020, 05:53 AM
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From a superficial glance, this seem like some kind of desperate last-attempt decision at lock-in to maintain relevance and it smells of corporate rot and/or failing revenue.
That said, i'm amazed at how much lock-in and bullshit people are willing to submit themselves to, so who knows.
There are lots of non-draconian industrial grade quality out there in both DAWs and plugins, so why people freely jump into a stressful near-future possibility of total obsoletion and lockout at the whim of a single entity is beyond me.
One of the greatest things about Reaper is its total lack of bullshit, its like an oasis these days.
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01-24-2020, 06:49 AM
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Luna is a free choice
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Maybe they better had reduced the hardware price instead of doing a major investment in an unnecessary software product
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01-24-2020, 07:40 AM
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2. For anyone who does own those devices, Luna is a free choice to try to see if it may have some benefit for tracking, mixing, whatever. If not, you've not lost anything but the time it takes to try it out.
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That's all well and good, but how many resources are they throwing at it? The UA Apollo user doesn't lose anything, but the company loses massively if nobody thinks it's special.
It's only use is to attract new Apollo customers since they're not selling it standalone. If it doesn't do that then they've wasted their time.
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intention to 'rule the market' or please everyone, or have some major impact on a company's bottom line.
It's just another free option for some people, nothing more, nothing less.
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Companies aren't in business to come up with free options unless it's to attract new customers.
I think the big mistake UA is making (and I bet a number of companies) is mistaking the writing on the wall that says "all musical utility software devices/emulations have been done, and CPU power will continue to make bespoke hardware redundant".
A.i. is the future. UA *could* position themselves with a hardware advantage computationally that way if they jump on it now. There is about to be a huge paradigm shift that's going to freak out a lot of the software houses, a completely disruptive event as big as mp3s were to the record industry.
UA putting effort into a DAW now makes no sense, UNLESS - they use it as a framework to integrate these aforementioned paradigm shifting products.
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01-24-2020, 09:25 AM
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Well, the OS and hardware restrictions mean that even if this was the greatest DAW ever made, I couldn't trial it in any case.
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Me either apparently even though I have multiple Macs and have been a UA card owner for over 10 years. My UA card is on their blacklist. Really not a good look there.
This is all starting to read like those snarky troll pages people were putting up for Protools when they started crashing and burning. TrueTape and all that.
Maybe someone trolled Universal Audio and this isn't really them?
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01-24-2020, 10:08 AM
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I'm the first guy to call a POS a POS, rest assured of that.
I simply think you guys are missing it completely.
I feel like Foghorn Leghorn "I say, I say, I keep shootin' em at ya' but they keep going over your head"
AND I'm gonna riff a bit on all of us lazy fvcks, including myself, who want to be spoon fed everything
IF you had done some research and watched the 1/2 hour video you would have heard the dude say this was 5 years in development.
So let's roll the clock back.
5 years ago, I'm sure they felt the pressure to go native, and apparently did something about it.
But, they still had to stay in business, life goes on
Now add the fact that LUNA extensions (DAW plugins) run native.
There are 2 tape sims and a summing bus, all run natively.
Is it not reasonable to see this as a transition strategy, from specialized DSP to a hybrid, maybe then to just great AD/DA ?
If I were going to do something as edgy as that I'd sure want as much control of the environment as I could get.
It's certainly not Reaper like, that's intentional
I would say the type of Reaper user who frequents these forums is about as far from the target audience as you can get.
But, I would also add, that 1/2 video showed me a smooth accurate simple workflow,, and i liked it a lot
Gotta have a beer now...
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I simply think you guys are missing it completely.
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If you truly believe this then blame the marketing department at UA We can only go by what the company says and shows.
If Audient announced today that they, too, had created a DAW that was free and 5 years in the making but only for use on their iD range, Win10-only and needed an iLok, would you see that as shooting themselves in the foot from a marketing perspective in 2020? No difference here. As others have said, no company makes free software unless it is with the intention of making people spend more money on hardware (and more software) down the line.
And, we already have the excellent Mixbus DAW for a console-style workflow. This is what they've worked on for 5 years?! As some speculated when it was first announced, they could have used the Ardour code-base and created an open-source DAW for everyone — independent of platform and device — with paid-for analogue-style additions.
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If you truly believe this then blame the marketing department at UA We can only go by what the company says and shows.
If Audient announced today that they, too, had created a DAW that was free and 5 years in the making but only for use on their iD range, Win10-only and needed an iLok, would you see that as shooting themselves in the foot from a marketing perspective in 2020? No difference here. As others have said, no company makes free software unless it is with the intention of making people spend more money on hardware down the line.
And, we already have the excellent Mixbus DAW for a console-style workflow. This is what they've worked on for 5 years?! As some speculated when it was first announced, they could have used the Ardour code-base and created an open-source DAW for everyone — independent of platform and device — with paid-for analogue-style additions.
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Thank you for reinforcing the point about the folks around here not being the target audience
Ardour ?
open-source ?
The people that buy this at Guitar Center want to go home, plug in, and record.
And. by the way, there is a LOT to be said for that.
I don't know how many have had the privilege of recording live off the floor in a good band -- it's magic
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Just giving my input on the new LUNA "DAW". iS not actually a daw ...but..
The best thing about this is the ability to record in real time using processing without causing the exceeded latency from usual interfaces and DAW bridge. Of course this has its advantages due to the use of the internal UAD SHARC dedicated DPS´s.
I also believe live sound people will have more options now. I think it is a game changer in that regards.
There is no Audio device settings, no buffer size, no latency involve in LUNA.
Correct me if i am wrong , but what other system does that ? not a UAD defensor in any way. I like new products, fast and reliable products. This looks like one..
All the best.
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Fundamentally UAD know their stuff
I would wait and see how this turns out
Sound from UAD has always been fantastic and machinery also so
I would wait.
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Thank you for reinforcing the point about the folks around here not being the target audience
Ardour ?
open-source ?
The people that buy this at Guitar Center want to go home, plug in, and record.
And. by the way, there is a LOT to be said for that.
I don't know how many have had the privilege of recording live off the floor in a good band -- it's magic
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Oh, please. I was as interested as the next person until I heard it about all the restrictions and watched the uninspiring livestreams.
What's wrong with Ardour/Mixbus and open source? I've produced many professional projects using only open source so I don't get your point. I, too, can install Ardour, plug in and play. No only that, I can do a full analogue-style workflow in Mixbus as well as automatically check for phase issues, batch export of multiple types of files, see a full graphical display of loudness data and have CD markers that stick to CD frames despite whatever other grid snapping is enabled.
Buy at Guitar Center? It's free and, I assume, a digital download for UA hardware users.
If you count classical ensembles as "live" and "off the floor" then yes, I do it all the time. Somehow I get by with Reaper, Ardour or Pyramix depending on my whim that day with zero issues. And, yes, it's magic
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Oh, please. I was as interested as the next person until I heard it about all the restrictions and watched the uninspiring livestreams.
What's wrong with Ardour/Mixbus and open source? I've produced many professional projects using only open source so I don't get your point. I, too, can install Ardour, plug in and play. No only that, I can do a full analogue-style workflow in Mixbus as well as automatically check for phase issues, batch export of multiple types of files, see a full graphical display of loudness data and have CD markers that stick to CD frames despite whatever other grid snapping is enabled.
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Ok, since I owe you one -- Oh please.
I guess you have no idea how primitive the average user is -- I'm sure you are extremely technically adept, but it's a lot more rare that one might think
Sure you can do all those things, but a lot of folks would find the tech overwhelming.
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Buy at Guitar Center? It's free and, I assume, a digital download for UA hardware users.
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Apologize, I meant the type of people that buy Apollo Arrows want to go home, plugin, and go.
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If you count classical ensembles as "live" and "off the floor" then yes, I do it all the time. Somehow I get by with Reaper, Ardour or Pyramix depending on my whim that day with zero issues. And, yes, it's magic
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Thank you -- anyone recording live off the floor gets my vote !!!
And I'm sure the excellent tools you mentioned are perfect for you.
I'm jus sayin others are not as skilled...
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I hear you
I'm sorry, truly. I probably shouldn't get worked up so much over a DAW that I can never own...
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It's hard to see the benefits of something if you haven't used it but I think a bit of common sense should come into play when we're criticizing a system we don't really know or use today.
I'm a MacPro (late 2013) user and UAD DSP processing is really great for my work because:
1 - The plug-ins are very good
2 - Since we invested in the platform with a couple of Apollos and two Satellites we have DSP enough to use lots of instances of these plug-ins (and use the CPU of this old Mac for the rest).
3 - We can record our clients using the Unison technology which is great (no one complains about latency) along with UAD comps, EQs, etc. Interesting fact: we have several preamps here and they've been off for quite a while because we prefer the sound, versatility and quality of the Unison plug-ins.
4 - Since we use the Apollo for tracking we don't need to worry about buffer size in REAPER. Mix is almost ready, client comes in and thinks he needs to record the verse again: get in the booth, add a track, rec-arm and hit rec, done. That's the kind of thing that matters when you're working around the clock.
LUNA is not a DAW created to reinvent the wheel. It's a system, a whole system. And it's free for us, the owners of Apollos. That's great.
It's a way to integrate a DAW with what we have had: Apollos and Satellites. It streamlines the recording process because you don't need to switch back and forth from the Apollo console to our current DAW. Now we'll have a DAW "inside", fully integrated. That's the most appealing factor for me.
Hopefully it'll have the right tools for recording so I can use it for that instead of REAPER (I'll still use REAPER for editing, though).
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01-25-2020, 05:03 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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I hear you MN.
UAD is not a public company afaik so I have no idea why people (some who apparently don't even own any of their hardware) appear to be so concerned about their internal business decisions or paths. I would personally say... "Who cares? It's their company and they can do whatever they want." It won't affect me in any way at all.
Unless I was a UAD employee who feared some decision they made might jeopardize my future employment, I literally couldn't care less. But playing backseat CEO is of course what the Internet always does.
They've been around for 60 years, longer than many here have been alive. I think they'll be ok... especially since the world at large is actually not confined to DAW's and plugins and they make and sell a lot of great audio hardware: https://www.uaudio.com/hardware.html
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01-25-2020, 10:30 AM
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Human being with feelings
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: No longer using REAPER and no longer active in the forums.
Posts: 129
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawrence
I have no idea why people (some who apparently don't even own any of their hardware) appear to be so concerned about their internal business decisions or paths.
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People are people and we will continue to speculate and prevaricate until the cows come home. An internet forum is as good a place as any for this. Indeed, it makes up 99% of what people talk about in threads. "I think this...", "You can't think that", "Reaper v6 theme sucks," "You're stupid because you don't understand the genius behind Reaper v6 theme," "Bus compression is trash," "Bus compression isn't trash." Rinse, repeat.
Your failure to understand is a failure to understand the petty musings and immature behavior patterns of Homo sapiens
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