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Old 01-12-2018, 08:58 PM   #1
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Default v5.71pre12a - January 13 2018

v5.71pre12 - January 12 2018
  • + ASIO: permit buffer sizes that are not a power of 2 if the device does not very specifically request otherwise [t=200746]
  • # MIDI: ensure both peaks and peaks edges colors (if enabled) are used for all MIDI notes [p=1939526]

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Also of note: this build has both normal macOS versions and macOS versions built with llvm/clang (rather than ICC). Discuss in this thread.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:02 PM   #2
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I've never noticed these new grid colors before (could be changes in an earlier pre).

Under the master track

After the last track


[*random anecdote]
Also for the last bit Reaper will occasionally just vanish. In 10 years with of crashes this Houdini act is new. It would always hang, or give an application stopped dialog in the past (event viewer is saying ucrtbase.dll this time).

In the Facebook user's group there's also discussion of increased crashing since 5.7, a coincidental Win10 update is another possibility. Who knows? [/random anecdote]
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:36 PM   #3
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I noticed that in the official version 5.70 and since pre-release version 5.65 the docked mixer can no longer be made as big as before. I think that's a pity. Is there a reason for this? Does this have something to do with the ruler?

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Old 01-13-2018, 12:14 AM   #4
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Also for the last bit Reaper will occasionally just vanish. In 10 years with of crashes this Houdini act is new. It would always hang, or give an application stopped dialog in the past
Yes, noticed this , increased crashing and its just gone , poof.
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Old 01-13-2018, 02:37 AM   #5
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Default Recording in Midi editor.

Hello Justin,thanks for your work.
Please if not so hard, add record function in midi editor,
so as not to switch during recording from the midi editor to the project window and then back.
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:00 AM   #6
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Hello Justin,thanks for your work.
Please if not so hard, add record function in midi editor,
so as not to switch during recording from the midi editor to the project window and then back.
You can already do that by assigning the key binding you use for recording to, "Misc: pass through key to main window" action.
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:00 AM   #7
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v5.71pre12 - January 12 2018
[list][*]+ ASIO: permit buffer sizes that are not a power of 2 if the device does not very specifically request otherwise [t=200746]
How about the option to have monitoring pdc to minimum latency?
So, with a block-size of 128
7 + 7 = 14
instead of
7 + 7 = 128 + 128 = 256
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I've never noticed these new grid colors before (could be changes in an earlier pre).

Under the master track

After the last track
Confirmed. Everything is BROWN now in my theme, in the empty TCP area. What gives?




It looks horrible and I can't seem to find anything in Theme development that will change this... Looks like a color for this was removed in pre12. You can compare with my images I posted previously how it looked over here.



Not brown at all!
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:26 AM   #9
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I've never noticed these new grid colors before (could be changes in an earlier pre).

Under the master track

After the last track
Its swapping the R and B channels, I smell a typo
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:48 AM   #10
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# MIDI: ensure both peaks and peaks edges colors (if enabled) are used for all MIDI notes [p=1939526]
thing are crisp as a fall apple right now guys, thanks for cleaning up those edges. it's a small detail and i am sure that i'll immediately forget the old issue, but it really makes a difference cumulatively.
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:18 AM   #11
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You can already do that by assigning the key binding you use for recording to, "Misc: pass through key to main window" action.
Thanks for the answer, I didn't know about this function ))).
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:41 AM   #12
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How about the option to have monitoring pdc to minimum latency?
So, with a block-size of 128
7 + 7 = 14
instead of
7 + 7 = 128 + 128 = 256
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I think it just reports it falsely in the Performance meter.
If i add 8 plugins with 2 samples of delay, i can still play live, but reaper says 1024 PDC.
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:55 AM   #13
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Aaaaand pre12a fixes the arrange colors. Yay!
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I think it just reports it falsely in the Performance meter.
If i add 8 plugins with 2 samples of delay, i can still play live, but reaper says 1024 PDC.
On single track without sends maybe.

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However, the situation where you have 3 plugins in series that each add 1 sample, could be improved (REAPER would add a few ASIO blocks of latency to that track, whereas the theoretical minimum latency added would still be one ASIO block).
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:57 AM   #15
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I'm seeing a memory leak in the -clang version

horizontal scroll sluggish, RAM use continually rising from 140MB at start to 1000+ within 10min of editing audio. Just splitting and moving items.

96kHz waves, not resampling. fancy waveforms off. only plugins in the project are ReaComp and JS Event Horizon.

edit -
Maybe not though… reverted to 5.70, even reverted reaper folder from backup and it still seems a bit slow. Didn't have any problems with 5.70 from Monday to Friday on similar projects.
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Old 01-14-2018, 05:27 PM   #16
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For those interested, just updated https://landoleet.org/bench with VS13 Windows builds of 5.71pre12a...
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:21 AM   #17
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Hey Justin, I somehow hoped that maybe the MIDI editor sluggishness would disappear with the new build. This happens, when using the "hand scroll",
the CC lane text (the popdown menu with "11 Expression", "01 Mod Wheel"...) starts to flicker.

I'm running Windows 8.1 x64, Radeon RX 460 with 2GB RAM, i7 6900@4GHz and 128GB RAM.

It does NOT happen, when using the scroll bar of the MIDI editor! Maybe this is due to the fact, that hand scroll does resize the scroll bar, when dragging and this causes some CPU load?


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Old 01-15-2018, 07:42 AM   #18
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When using notes in the drum mode (triangles or diamonds), when the horizontal zoom is changed in arrange view, the notes disappear.
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Hey Justin, I somehow hoped that maybe the MIDI editor sluggishness would disappear with the new build. This happens, when using the "hand scroll",
the CC lane text (the popdown menu with "11 Expression", "01 Mod Wheel"...) starts to flicker.

I'm running Windows 8.1 x64, Radeon RX 460 with 2GB RAM, i7 6900@4GHz and 128GB RAM.

It does NOT happen, when using the scroll bar of the MIDI editor! Maybe this is due to the fact, that hand scroll does resize the scroll bar, when dragging and this causes some CPU load?


Which theme is this ?
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:41 AM   #20
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https://stash.reaper.fm/theme/1917/J...inted_v103.zip
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:27 PM   #22
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There was talk about this 2 pres ago, and it's too good (and simple) to let go you guys.



Horizontal tint of selected track(s).
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Old 01-15-2018, 01:15 PM   #23
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Exactly !

Please Cockos, bring this feature back.

It is really handy, you have a better reference for eyesight in Arrange,
especially when moving Items.
Hope this makes sense
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How do you mean "bring back" when it never was there in the first place
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Old 01-15-2018, 01:38 PM   #25
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Horizontal tint of selected track(s).
Would be really helpful!
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:10 PM   #27
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Some TakeFX plugins still not observing offline plugin mode since sometime after 5.70. Plugins now have to be automated to get any audio at all instead of just rendering in place with current settings like Sound Forge. This is real-time behavior, thoughTakeFX has historically behaved as if offline (rendered). My existing projects on current build have some items with TakeFX go silent after the first playthrough. What changed?
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Preferences/Audio/Rendering: "Limit ... to realtime"?
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Who made the big ass screenshot, everything is tinywiny.
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Who made the big ass screenshot, everything is tinywiny.
I've solved that annoyance with the "no squint" plugin.
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Who made the big ass screenshot, everything is tinywiny.
That might be me, I'm sorry.
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That might be me, I'm sorry.
after scrolling over a mile to find the ''quote' button, it's ok!
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Old 01-16-2018, 12:47 AM   #33
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using the reaper 5 theme for the forum works fine too
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Default High CPU Priority in task Manager ?

Tell me please, whether it is necessary to set high CPU priority for Reaper in the task manager?
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It's not necessary. Please don't ask unrelated questions in pre-release section, there are other subforums for questions like that.
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It's not necessary. Please don't ask unrelated questions in pre-release section, there are other subforums for questions like that.
Thank you for fast reply )))
OK,Sorry...
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Um, I have encountered a strange crash.
I can't recreate the situation from scratch (yet) but I think I found the root that might be causing it.

The affected project was created in pre10 and today I moved it to pre12a but the behaviour is basically the same in both builds.

The project opens fine but when I try to open other project, create a new one or just delete some of the first few tracks (they are grouped), Reaper crashes.

After some experiments I noticed that I could fix it by deleting tracks 4 and 5 and saving the project again.

These two tracks include volume envelope with AI and they don't look the way I saved them yesterday. When I delete the first envelope point at 0:00, save and reopen the project, the point is back.

I suspect it creates some garbage in memory that (in some situations) causes the crash.


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Can you post that project (without media or FX), or email it to support at cockos please?
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OK, correction: =)

The "returning" point at 0:00 is rather strange (and perfectly repeatable with a new project) but the cause of the crash is actually "DSK Strings".
http://www.dskmusic.com/dsk-strings/
It seems that when I use two instances of this VST the crash is almost granted. One instance seems to be safe.

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Um, I have encountered a strange crash.
I can't recreate the situation from scratch (yet) but I think I found the root that might be causing it.

The affected project was created in pre10 and today I moved it to pre12a but the behaviour is basically the same in both builds.

The project opens fine but when I try to open other project, create a new one or just delete some of the first few tracks (they are grouped), Reaper crashes.

After some experiments I noticed that I could fix it by deleting tracks 4 and 5 and saving the project again.

These two tracks include volume envelope with AI and they don't look the way I saved them yesterday. When I delete the first envelope point at 0:00, save and reopen the project, the point is back.

I suspect it creates some garbage in memory that (in some situations) causes the crash.
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DSK plugins are quite unstable. They're SynthEdit based, so perhaps use plugin bridging/firewalling that Reaper offers to contain them (run them as dedicated process).
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