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Old 01-25-2007, 05:56 PM   #1
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Default The time has come! Per item FX! (DONE)

i propose a new item properties area, it could be SO simple



just throw an FX button right next to the mute box!

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turned on and mouse hovering over it revealing list of fx on it



per item fx would make it so the fx are not being used until it hits that particular item, like in samplitude. Great for certain fx and for applying things to only items, and trust me this comes in handy very much, and has been requested several times.


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Old 01-25-2007, 06:10 PM   #2
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another idea -- having the fx chain list represented in the same media item properties box



and then the fx chain box could be different for the media properties, showing the position in the top pane



unlike other sequencers, it could also be used for instruments and midi tracks no? picture a midi sequence, just a little part, and you dont feel like assigning it its own track. Just make the midi part, and in the properties send it to a vsti!

simple as that!

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Old 01-25-2007, 06:32 PM   #3
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how it would be shown ON the item:



this way we can easily see what was used on it, but you dont even need to list the fx. Just having the word "fx" displayed on the item is enough to let us know that there ARE effects used on that item specifically.
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Old 01-26-2007, 05:21 AM   #4
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+1 Only if we call it object editing!

Nah I don't care what it's called, this would put our editing up with Samplitude, just perfect when the only effect you want on a track is a small delay on one note, or similar.

It's probably more important than freeze, am I right Jason?
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Old 01-26-2007, 06:35 AM   #5
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Old 01-26-2007, 06:47 AM   #6
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:29 AM   #7
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+1 Only if we call it object editing!

Nah I don't care what it's called, this would put our editing up with Samplitude, just perfect when the only effect you want on a track is a small delay on one note, or similar.

It's probably more important than freeze, am I right Jason?

I wouldnt say more important than freeze
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Old 01-26-2007, 07:53 AM   #8
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Well yes - +1 of course from me too.

Add a pre/post send in there too while we're on !!!!



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Old 01-28-2007, 09:51 AM   #9
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i propose a new item properties area, it could be SO simple
I think we're all spoiled by the proliferation of features that just appear here daily. I can't help thinking that none of this is ever child's play to Justin and company. They just make it look SO simple.

Like auto body repair. The better the job, the less anyone notices.
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Old 01-28-2007, 10:10 AM   #10
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I think we're all spoiled by the proliferation of features that just appear here daily. I can't help thinking that none of this is ever child's play to Justin and company. They just make it look SO simple.

Like auto body repair. The better the job, the less anyone notices.
its the same way i feel about office cleaning. the better you are, the less they should notice that you were even there.

however, i wasnt meaning that it would be a simple task for Justin & Co. but that it would be a very simple, out of the way implementation./



but i agree, we are definetly spoiled here.
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:58 AM   #11
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+1 for object based effects, like Jason says, MIDI or audio. Like the pick showed, an fx button on the object could be cool, or just a shortcut that works when your mouse is over the object.

might complicate things in the whole 'apply fx to new take' realm.
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:01 AM   #12
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Wheres the administrators. This is the destructive effects weve been preaching about. This would save a ruff 187 clicks of the mouse. I have to drop an effect into every individual track to edit destructively???????. Where are the people who look at these threads and say Yes and No. How can you turn this one down??? This should be a must. People, please dont let this thread die!
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Old 01-29-2007, 09:39 AM   #13
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might complicate things in the whole 'apply fx to new take' realm.
I strongly doubt it. The fx on the item would hit before the fx on the track though, i would imagine.
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:40 PM   #14
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Im mean, it seems like the program is better suited for great computers with loads of memory. The whole "Freeze" thing is cool. But effects directly to the item would eliminate that all together. If you dont like the sound afterwards. Just visit the undo list. If you want the current state of the plugin saved...just save it as a preset. Much Much Much quicker than inserting a plug into a track, applying effects as new take, taking that plugin out. That process is a total of 6-7 clicks of the mouse (not including setting up your plugin). Now, if you have ten tracks, youve just clicked 60-70 times. Good Grief! My computer is a P4, 1024mb, 160gb 7200HD. I need to have this in my program. Simply a must have. Just leave the apply effects as new take in place, for the people who have grown acustom to it. With that added my computer is just fine for audio. Come on a please us mortals Justin (Justeezy).
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:36 PM   #15
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I know we can always clone a track, etc. to accomplish the same thing as clip FX, but with screen real estate at a premium, this would be a real winner. +10
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:28 PM   #16
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you feel me EnzymeX!
Its tedious to plugin every track an effect. I use the real time effect too. Dont get me wrong. Ill have a Delay Aux, Compressor Aux, Reverb Aux and So on. But you know when you have several different people recording vocals. Five or Six different people, who all project in different decibal levals.Well, that mean i got to pull up Five to Six different Limiter/Comp's(Because the tresholds and settings arent gonna affect the different voices the same)....Now my CPU is sucked dry of all its memory.
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:37 PM   #17
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:56 AM   #18
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Compressor Aux,
What do you do with that ?
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:07 PM   #19
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thats what they call them in PTLE, Auxileries. Ok, lets say sends then for Reaper. Im not a computer guru Jason, but i think you know what i mean when i say sucks my memory dry when reffering to having a bunch of plugins up at once. The CPU usage thing gets to high and everything performs terrible. You feel me..Item processing..in the right click drop down menu should have more than Normalize. It should have VST, DXi, JS.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:41 PM   #20
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Can't a person just create multiple tracks in a folder, move things around and add FX as needed? I mean we have unlimited tracks.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:52 PM   #21
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could do... but this is cool! http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14223
and it makes for smaller track counts, which for the multiple-monitor impaired is a big thing



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Old 10-22-2007, 02:29 PM   #22
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Not sure I get all that Tall but wouldn't it be similar if each item on one track could be assigned to a seperate channel within the track? Part A on 1/2 Part B on 3/4?

Send Part B to an effect and return it on 5/6? Or is that too convoluted?

My vote is to take care of the regular stuff (automation, midi love, more controllers, MTC sync) before adding more exotic features like per track FX.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:54 PM   #23
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Not sure I get all that Tall but wouldn't it be similar if each item on one track could be assigned to a seperate channel within the track? Part A on 1/2 Part B on 3/4?

Send Part B to an effect and return it on 5/6? Or is that too convoluted?

My vote is to take care of the regular stuff (automation, midi love, more controllers, MTC sync) before adding more exotic features like per track FX.
lawrence see here for a bad, yet exciting description of what I mean: http://www.cockos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14223

it seems to me like it will address a number of issues that have recently surfaced.

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Old 10-22-2007, 08:30 PM   #24
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Not sure I get all that Tall but wouldn't it be similar if each item on one track could be assigned to a seperate channel within the track? Part A on 1/2 Part B on 3/4?

Send Part B to an effect and return it on 5/6? Or is that too convoluted?

My vote is to take care of the regular stuff (automation, midi love, more controllers, MTC sync) before adding more exotic features like per track FX.
For me, and many others, per track efx would be da bomb! I see it as an essential feature for many music creation activists. I have quite a few friends who would switch over to reaper if they had this feature. (It's standard fare in Cubendo)...

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Old 11-02-2007, 11:36 PM   #25
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Can't a person just create multiple tracks in a folder, move things around and add FX as needed? I mean we have unlimited tracks.
There are quite a few effects that self oscilate (generate noise when there isn't any audio feeding it) that you wouldn't want running the whole time.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:23 AM   #26
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There are quite a few effects that self oscilate (generate noise when there isn't any audio feeding it) that you wouldn't want running the whole time.
Reaper also seems to run fx and thus consume CPU regardless of if there is actual audio playing from audio files on a track...Manually automating bypass is not a convenient solution for that! (It could be, if the automation envelopes were better and easier to handle, but well oh, that's another subject...)

Per-item FX NOW!

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Old 01-22-2008, 04:08 PM   #27
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This is probably the biggest advantage of Magix DAWs. Such a wonderful feature. I would welcome it in Reaper +1.
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Unique Object-oriented Editing

As an enhancement to the traditional concept of mixer-supported editing of complete tracks, all versions offer countless possibilities for direct real-time sample editing. Recorded audio tracks can thus be cut into as many objects as you wish.
Every object can be edited with individual fades and effects, such as Equalizer, Timestretching, Pitchshifting or plugins. Sequoia also offers Aux-Sends on the object level, the well-known linearphase mastering effects, and a widely variable signal flow.
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Old 01-25-2008, 10:50 AM   #28
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Keeping it warm.

pr item fx: +1
pr item sends: +1
and multichannel filesupport/routing: +5 :-)

Keep up the good work.

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Old 01-26-2008, 10:57 PM   #29
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One more bump to keep it grooving. +++1

PS. Thank you Superfly76 for recalling the screeshot !
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:13 AM   #30
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For the FR Tracker: !group "Per-Item FX"
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!done - Woooohooooooo!!!
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:30 PM   #32
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it would be so cool,hope this will come SOOOOOON++++1
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