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08-20-2006, 04:22 PM
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Reaper Icon
Can you please change the programs icon to that reaper pic on the main page? look really cool.
thanks lee
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08-20-2006, 04:33 PM
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I've just set it as my desktop background....
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08-20-2006, 05:00 PM
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08-20-2006, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Art Evans
I've just set it as my desktop background....
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ArthurSucks made the image, but he hasnt' been around in a while it seems (sadly), but he was nice enough to send me the PSD.. so here's a higher quality version, more suitable for a desktop, hehe:
http://reaper.fm/images/reaperlogofull.jpg
-J
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08-21-2006, 12:27 AM
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how do i post up an icon for people to download
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08-21-2006, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lee702
how do i post up an icon for people to download
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http://stashbox.org/
We use it for posting REAPER color themes as well.
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08-21-2006, 07:12 AM
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Ah, now I can see what he's actually supposed to look like! And the smile on the face of the tiger.
BTW, ArthurSucks has no connection with Art Evans. Or Elvis.
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08-21-2006, 07:17 AM
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Haha! The King is back!
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08-21-2006, 07:18 AM
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I always liked the one in this thread.
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08-21-2006, 09:20 AM
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I love your logo pipeline
It´s my background pic now.
I think i´ll put it on my friends PT HD rig.
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08-21-2006, 02:13 PM
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Now I'm REALLY waiting to see Arthur's great REAPER icon appear on top of the forum page... Not too small - I'm mesmerized by these little red eyes... and I LOVE it
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08-21-2006, 02:27 PM
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dont like it, im not lil girl...
btw, ive been on the beach for a while
so - i see - no one will stay on 0.999 except me?
and i cant see in the site explained that 0.999 is free - is it still?
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08-21-2006, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scum
im not lil girl...
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Well, you might have told us so before, scum!
All the time we thought we had a lovely little Bulgarian brunette in our midst with a tender angelic voice...
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08-21-2006, 05:09 PM
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Well, i dont like it. I dont talk english and i dont figured that "Reaper" was something related to death until now. Dont have you some other icon/name less depressive?
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08-21-2006, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by olzzon
I love your logo pipeline
It´s my background pic now.
I think i´ll put it on my friends PT HD rig.
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That one is from Arthursucks too
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08-21-2006, 09:19 PM
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Marce is right
Marce is right. The connotations of "Reaper" are a bit negative, although quite complex. At the root, to reap is to harvest. But even that is about death, and rebirth, at some level. John Barleycorn must die and all that. Fruityloops went through this and became FL Studio, which everyone still calls "fruity." Is it gay? Is it a kid's breakfast cereal? Does "loops" mean it is only for loops? Is it, as Gol would say, "toyish?"
Marce teaches music to small children. Can he use a program called "Reaper" to do that? Well, maybe.
The problem is that the new icon emphasizes the connection with death, and then trivializes it. In the Bible somewhere it says, "you reap what you sow," which means you harvest the seeds you plant. So we have all of these connections with death and religion and high moral seriousness, which might not be the best thing from a marketing standpoint. The best names have connotations of strength and hipness, without negative vibes.
I don't care. I just like the app. But others might have a problem. It's like the problem with "Jesusonic," only different.
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08-21-2006, 10:06 PM
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I think it really just depends on who you're trying not put off and how much you care. Whether you called the program "Abraham" or "Stalin" there would doubtless be some sector of the population that would not be happy about it.
I think if Justin likes the name, the rest of us can just enjoy the results of his efforts and be happy. Just like the little reaper dude.
my 2 cents.
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08-21-2006, 10:15 PM
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I really like the humor.
If i play a casual job, i prefer not to wear tuxedo, cause the people from the audience that like tuxedos call me again, but if i wear relaxed clothing, the people that are more relaxed call me.
Justin has made a program with personality, i like that, and people that like the way he does things, will go for it.
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08-22-2006, 04:41 AM
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Hmmmm
Justin, I see that some people have a problem with a name of the REAPER, maybe you want to change the name in something like:
Rapid Enviorment for Multimedia and Other Things Editing short REMOTE
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REAly Cool Audio Software short REACAS
Audio, Recording and Editig Application for year '06 short AREA 06
AUDIO Software for Unlimited Making Music, Editing and Recording short AUDIO SUMMER
Application for Unlimited Recording and Outstanding (or Owerwhelming) Audio manipulation AURORA
Or even,
Making Music Software MMS
Make Unlimited Music MUM
so let's open a new topic to see what else will came up, then let's vote. So finaly for Grande finalle you will have new app in version 1.0 fully developed and ready to go. Nobody will complain for having so many beta versions, nobody will report bugs or having new requests, nobody will be frighten from icons and everybody will be satisfied. Or... not?
Oh, god, I just woke up and realize that I was typing this in my sleep. I'm a moonwalker!?!?
Oh,What a hack, maybe someone will read this.
Personaly I don't have anything wrong with the name or with the icon. Like Stringer explained. Reaper is someone who harvest what is grown, in, or at his land. It's a honest job.
Grim reaper is something else, but first off all, death is part of life and second making fun with grim reaper or talk about him is proof that we don't afraid off him or her. I have Stych in my home, so it doesn't make me a grim reaper. Having reaper in my computer doesen't make me worshiper of dark side. So what is big deal. In that analogy; what, are you out with your boat fishing with SONAR, or are you work in destilery and you are always drunk when you work with ALCOHOL or are you a marshall of joint army when you're in TOTAL COMMANDER etc,etc.
Now I go to make some coffe to fully wake me up. I'M SWISS
longer, I Must Stop Write In Sleep Soon.
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08-22-2006, 05:06 AM
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heres my feelings on the reaper name.
it doesnt bother me.
the KEY i think is to have comedic fun with it.
just give him a nice big smile cos i find his smile difficult to see. i laugh every time i see the red eyes.
I should prolly be more sensitive to the name haveing been through with my wife a terrible decade of losing loved ones just to natural old age and hurting badly......and including my dad.
but my dad was a great comedian always doing funny comic strips and pictures and so on.
and knowing my dad he would be the first to have a good laugh at the name. also knowing my dad he would prolly submit to "J"
a comic strip or such for a giggle... full of reaper jokes.
frankly i think the die is cast. the name is out there, ....
thus my opinion is the reaper concept from a marketing
standpoint should be highly comedic. just my opinion.
if "J" wants to build a serious company with longevity there are also other avenues. maybe a reaper sound card at some point
which works great with reaper, mugs, t shirts, microphones.
heres an idea(marketing...)...maybe every one that registers gets sent a T shirt with a big smiling reaper on the front.
Then at the annual AES bash or whatever all these reaper folks would be shmoozing with other audio types and wearing their reaper t shirts saying something like...use reaper and grin from ear to ear....lol. reaper mice(for the pc....lol)....
the concept is endless. if its done right and the comedy angle exploited it could be rather interesting imho.
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08-22-2006, 07:45 AM
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Anti-marketing?
Perhaps Justin is engaging in an experiment. Right now, in our society everything is about marketing and hype, and here we are giving marketing advice. Is it possible to create a product so superior that it can succeed without marketing? Even better, can it succeed with negative marketing? You know, start a car company called "Lemon Motors" and make a slick, fast, economical engineering marvel called the "Clunker." Or start "Dustbin Media" and make the perfect audio/video recording and editing software called "GarbageTrash Studio" (GT Studio for short). If such products were successful, they would have to be absolutely and obviously superior to everything else out there.
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08-22-2006, 07:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stringer
In the Bible somewhere it says, "you reap what you sow," which means you harvest the seeds you plant.
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Which is a great and famous line that in rock music found a beautiful destination in the last verses of Lou Reed's Perfect Day.
Might be great to use a Bible quote for promoting this software...
REAPER - You Reap What You Sow
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08-22-2006, 08:02 AM
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I recommended Reaper to a student just yesterday when he asked about how to record his band with his computer. With a confused look he said "Is that a game or something? I mean something to record my band on my computer".
Fruity Loops is an idiotic name in a commercial sense. I think they've massively hindered themselves with that name.
I'd prefer Justin do well with Reaper in order to have it continually developed. In that sense I think "Reaper" has a number of built in problems from a stigma standpoint; and a Halloween cartoon logo isn't exactly what one associates with a Professional Audio Application I'm Going to Base My Business Around. A silly logo isn't what a studio owner wants a client to see/associate their studio with, particularly when one right out of the gate has to compete with "why aren't you using Pro Tools?" .
You already have an uphill battle; you're not going to pull professional people away from Pro Tools with something that has a quirky name and a silly logo. It will not appear in a professional environment like a tv station or some such; no matter how influential the audio engineer may be, he's not going to even try selling something like that to management. "See boss, it has these features and all... well, it's got a silly icon, we can change that... yeah, it's called "Reaper"... no, it's not Pro Tools, but..."...
I mean, if you just want to be punk rock and do the "I'm giving the bird to the establishment! We're going to call our band "Fuckload"! Our logo is going to be llama 'nads! NyahhhH!!!!! We rawkkK!", that's fine, but you can't get mad when you're not allowed to play at certain places in town because of the name. Likewise, if you actually believe in the music you're playing, you'd be foolish to hamper your success with it just for the satisfaction of having a silly name and logo.
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08-22-2006, 08:22 AM
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What about 'Acid' or 'Vegas' then, chip? EnergyXT - what kind of drug would THAT be?
I don't think clients in a studio care too much about names of applications. I suppose they care about quality and the trust they can have in a sound engineer's capabilities.
And as soon as REAPER will be well known nobody will really reflect on that name or logo anymore I guess.
Aren't Pipe and Art Evans 'professionals'? They hardly ever or never write that word down - maybe because they know that 'professional' has become one of the most boring, blasé and empty words in the music business.
That's why Pro Tools is such a terrible name, just like all the meaningless Pro additions to software. Babya Logic Pro -
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08-22-2006, 08:59 AM
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A silly name is no barrier to commercial success (see: google, yahoo, McNugget, Hummer, Blue Ball mics, etc.) I think most true "professionals" probably do not pick their tools based on the logo.
If Reaper continues becoming the most effective and efficient tool available, I suspect the most knowledgeable and experienced people will be the first ones to embrace it, even if it were called Fluffernutter Satan Child Murder.
I think the people most likely to be self-concsious about the name are small amateur or project studios who are prone to feelings of inadequacy about every brand name unless it's ProTools. And those people will catch on eventually.
My $.02, anyway.
Cheers.
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08-22-2006, 09:06 AM
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Cock OS ?
By the way, I have always been wondering what "Cock OS" could mean ??
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A silly name is no barrier to commercial success
Cheers.
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08-22-2006, 10:06 AM
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Well, dont know others, i only said i dont like the icon/name because related to the death, that is something i dont like to be thinking each time i press an icon. Any other philosophical-religious-politica-whoknowswhat interpretation is on your own. But still i dont like it
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I think the people most likely to be self-concsious about the name are small amateur or project studios who are prone to feelings of inadequacy about every brand name unless it's ProTools. And those people will catch on eventually.
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You catch me, I dream it´s called "ReaproTools" Well, not to start some war about something stupid (but i dont like it, i dont like it, i dont lke it...
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Well, maybe it can be renamed "LeCocq Os" and it will be more french fashioned.
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08-22-2006, 11:12 AM
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I always liked the one in this thread.
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Thankyou - I didn't want to use the obvious Grim either.
Even though Reaper is a Killer app (Isn't that the general idea of the name?)
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08-22-2006, 02:58 PM
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When first announcing the developement of Reaper, Justin wrote,
"OK so I've been spending the last 9 days or so writing a new program, called REAPER (which stands for something along the lines of Rapid Environment for Audio Prototyping -- but I just like to think "don't fear it" or "reap your harvests" or whatnot)."
Make of that what you will.
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08-22-2006, 02:58 PM
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Hi guys,
I've been following the Reaper development since the "early" 0.9 stage. I am very impressed, and it's interesting to see it grow day by day. I'm not into audio recording processing so much, but I'm a regular NINJAM user. The Cockos software is excellent, the first thing I used was Jesusonic, which I liked and then went on to Ninjam. With JS I had an issue with the name, I mean it is disrespectul to use that name. And the actual "control board" is shaped like a cross which is again a bit disrespectful to christians. I am religious and I guess some people in here are too. JS will grow with Reaper and I think it's a matter of responsibility to change this a bit before your programs develop into something well known. I would like to see the Cockos software get attention. But it think the naming for JS cause some problems in the future.
With Reaper, again, the name is just at the limit I guess. The logo isn't that positive, people have mentioned the word "reap" as to harvest. Well this would be a better idea for a logo. The little reaper you have now is associated with, death, killing, extermination. You could argue that this can be taken towards your competition. But I'm now sure how well it will market... I'm not trying to make a business plan for you.. All I'm trying to say is give some positivity to this program. Maybe have the little guy harvesting something or hacking at some plants or musical notes, stuff like that.
alex zonder mentioned an excellent phrase:
"REAPER - You Reap What You Sow"
I think this is a good way to go.
I'm writing this because I'm Mainly concerned about "Jesusonic". As REAPER grows, so will JS, and I think JS is way more controversial and prone to critique. So I hope you and your team will think about the naming for JS.
Thanks for reading my opinion.
Good luck with the software, and thanks for NINJAM!
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08-22-2006, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art Evans
When first announcing the developement of Reaper, Justin wrote,
"OK so I've been spending the last 9 days or so writing a new program, called REAPER (which stands for something along the lines of Rapid Environment for Audio Prototyping -- but I just like to think "don't fear it" or "reap your harvests" or whatnot)."
Make of that what you will.
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Yep. The slogan should be "the audio app with more cowbell"
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08-22-2006, 04:06 PM
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It's just like in the Cartoon Wars episode of South Park (the Muhammed cartoon one). As I think has been covered many times before, the Jesus in Jesusonic is not used offensively - it's just used. The CrusFX is an excellent name for an FX unit. There's only a problem if you make it one. Reap what you sow, indeed.
I've been teaching kids how to use Reaper - I never knew I was scarring them for life in doing it. Dangit!
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08-22-2006, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dirmass
The little reaper you have now is associated with, death, killing, extermination.
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Hmm, no, people are more associated/responsible for that.. The grim reaper itself seems to represent the natural side of death... I mean seriously, his name is the "reaper", so I guess we all get harvested eventually etc...
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08-22-2006, 04:14 PM
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As I think has been covered many times before, the Jesus in Jesusonic is not used offensively - it's just used. The CrusFX is an excellent name for an FX unit. There's only a problem if you make it one. Reap what you sow, indeed.
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Exactly.
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08-22-2006, 10:16 PM
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Here's a little idea I came up with riding the train home from work today. Not that you're gonna change the logo or anything, but if it ever comes up...
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08-23-2006, 03:37 AM
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I rather like that icon!
Slogan ideas?? "Reaper - cut to the quick". Maybe too bloodthirsty. "Stick your neck out - cut with Reaper". "Reaper - the swish audio program". "Reaper - come over to the other scythe".
I'm tired, you can probably tell...
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08-23-2006, 06:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art Evans
I rather like that icon!
Slogan ideas?? "Reaper - cut to the quick". Maybe too bloodthirsty. "Stick your neck out - cut with Reaper". "Reaper - the swish audio program". "Reaper - come over to the other scythe".
I'm tired, you can probably tell...
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Art, you're too kind...and, I believe, way too tired ("Reaper - come over to the other scythe"??!!)
I actually hadn't thought of any slogans. How about "Reaper - grab, swing, create."
Gee, maybe I need a nap too...
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08-23-2006, 06:33 AM
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Haha, funny stuff, Art. I kinda like endlessloop's icon, too.
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