Old 04-17-2021, 06:52 PM   #1
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Default Slowing down classic recording?

It's no secret that many classic recordings from the analog era were bounced at a faster rate than they were tracked.

"Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me and My Monkey" from the White Album was tracked at 3'07", but sped up in mixdown to 2'29" then again to 2'24" for the final mix.

If I wanted to slow down the track to the original 3'07" how would I do that? Can someone help with the math here?
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Old 04-18-2021, 12:41 AM   #2
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You could just past the original track onto a track, uncheck "preserve pitch when changing rate" in item properties and alt-stretch it to 3:07 manually with no math needed whatsoever

(187s/144s*100 = 129,86 percent stretch if I count correctly)
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:09 AM   #3
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You could just past the original track onto a track, uncheck "preserve pitch when changing rate" in item properties and alt-stretch it to 3:07 manually with no math needed whatsoever

(187s/144s*100 = 129,86 percent stretch if I count correctly)
Awesome! Will try!

So let's say I wanted to try recreating this track, including the sped up mixdown.

I usually tempo-map the OG track in fairly close detail, but what about the tape speed effects, including pitch? Could this be done in faux-mastering stage via the Waves J37 or are we talking about a master bpm increase?

UPDATE: Weird results. Extremely slow. Doesn't sound like a song at all.
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True, it does make him sound like an actual walrus. Are you sure there was such a radical varispeeding? Or maybe normal vocals were later dubbed over sped up track or something?
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Old 04-19-2021, 01:28 PM   #5
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It's tough to get the facts, but it looks like they cut the backing tracks, then bounced sped up.

The vocals were cut to this backing track.

The final mixdown was sped up again.

Maybe the solution isn't in tempo, but in pitch. I might have to experiment with pitch shifting the vocals.
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