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05-24-2018, 08:05 AM
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Human being with feelings
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v5.90 and Melodyne Assistant 4.1.1
Hi.
Some weirdness using the Melodyne VST with Reaper 5.90...
I upgraded Reaper then loaded my current project to do some Melodyne work and found two issues:
1 - The Melodyne play cursor now lags about 2 bars (approx 1 sec) behind the Reaper play cursor making it tricky to identify which visual blob relates to the audio I'm hearing
2 - On two occasions (both after opening the Melodyne plugin on the vocal track and observing the lag issue above), the Melodyne play cursor disappeared completely
These issues occurred on both 32 and 64 bit version of Reaper v5.90
Reloaded my last installed Reaper version (5.78) and the Melodyne plugin worked fine.
This was all on the same PC, of course.
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05-25-2018, 02:24 AM
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Anyone else seeing these Melodyne issues with v5.90?
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05-25-2018, 05:34 AM
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With Reaper 5.90. you need to use the Beta ARA2 version of Melodyne only available on Request.
-Michael
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05-25-2018, 06:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
With Reaper 5.90. you need to use the Beta ARA2 version of Melodyne only available on Request.
-Michael
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I don't think the OP is referring to ARA features.
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05-25-2018, 07:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Brian Merrill
I don't think the OP is referring to ARA features.
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Correct - these issues are with Reaper v5.90 and the Melodyne VST plugin :-)
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05-25-2018, 01:06 PM
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My suggestion was that Reaper v5.90 expects ARA2 with plugins that feature ARA instead of just ignoring ARA as the previous Reaper versions do, and that might lead to problems.
-Michael
Last edited by mschnell; 05-25-2018 at 10:09 PM.
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05-25-2018, 02:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mschnell
My suggestion was that Reaper v5.90 expects ARA2 with plugins that feature ARA instead of just ignoring ARA a the previous Reaper versions do, and that might lead to problems.
-Michael
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Devs - is this expected behaviour with the (non-ARA) Melodyne VST plugin in Reaper v5.90?
Cheers
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05-25-2018, 02:40 PM
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I'm not sure -- it's something that we saw during the prerelease cycle but were unable to duplicate. There were changes to the way the plug-in processing/resetting is done in 5.90 so it is likely related to that. Stay tuned.
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05-25-2018, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
I'm not sure -- it's something that we saw during the prerelease cycle but were unable to duplicate. There were changes to the way the plug-in processing/resetting is done in 5.90 so it is likely related to that. Stay tuned.
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Ta muchly :-)
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05-25-2018, 02:44 PM
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Is 4.1.1 the latest version Melodyne Assistant?
If you record-arm the track in question does it help anything?
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05-25-2018, 04:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Is 4.1.1 the latest version Melodyne Assistant?
If you record-arm the track in question does it help anything?
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Pretty sure that v4.1.1 is the latest version.
I'll try record arming a track tomorrow and re-testing (late here now).
Cheers
CD
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05-28-2018, 05:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncleswede
Pretty sure that v4.1.1 is the latest version.
I'll try record arming a track tomorrow and re-testing (late here now).
Cheers
CD
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@Justin - apologies for delay.
I've tried record arming the track and unfortunately both issues (visual lag and subsequently losing the Melodyne play cursor completely in v5.90) are still a problem :-(
I've also confirmed that the issues are definitely not apparent in v5.77
Thanks for your help
Last edited by uncleswede; 05-28-2018 at 06:01 AM.
Reason: typo
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05-29-2018, 04:07 AM
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same problem here... Melodyne Assistant / reaper
I use melodyne Assistant and have the same problems for years. ( in all Versions of reaper )The melodyne is not in sync with reaper. I use the AU Version of Melodyne. It works more stable then the VST. What helps is, disable all Plugins in the Bus / Master / Track so it will work better, but not so it should be...
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05-29-2018, 11:51 PM
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Using 5.90 and melodyne vst, and having the same sync problems,
Downgraded to 5.80, and everything is fine!
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05-30-2018, 01:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martorta
Using 5.90 and melodyne vst, and having the same sync problems,
Downgraded to 5.80, and everything is fine!
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Aah... sounds like confirmation of the bug. Thanks :-)
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05-30-2018, 05:59 AM
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i could confirm this!
melodyne bug
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05-31-2018, 02:54 AM
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I have always crash with 5.91pre and Melodyne VST. No problems with 5.90. BTW i didn't check the timeline sunc issue because i'm in the middle of a huge project. I have to do some more Melodyne on various tracks in the next few days so i'll check.
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05-31-2018, 07:47 AM
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Does the VST3 version of MA 4.1.1 have this issue too or just vst2?
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05-31-2018, 12:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin
Does the VST3 version of MA 4.1.1 have this issue too or just vst2?
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I'll check ASAP (will be a few days, away from my studio atm).
Cheers CD
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06-01-2018, 04:13 AM
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REAPER 5.90 x64 Win7
Melodyne Studio 4 VST3 = sync ok
VST2 = sync off
I'll just use VST3 now.
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06-01-2018, 04:37 AM
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Celemony responds:
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Originally Posted by Celemony
affected users should be able to simply switch to the VST3 version - Melodyne has supported both for a very long time (7 years+ I believe), I think all active users shall have both VST2 and 3 available.
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06-01-2018, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schwa
Celemony responds:
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OP here ... still away from studio so can't positively confirm but this sounds very encouraging. :-)
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06-01-2018, 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncleswede
OP here ... still away from studio so can't positively confirm but this sounds very encouraging. :-)
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Hi. I can confirm that using VST3 Melodyne works and syncs to the visual display just fine in Reaper v5.90.
Thanks for your help
Cheers
CD
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06-01-2018, 02:02 PM
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For me when closing reaper project and starting again, melodyne doesn't show the transfered notes even though it still processes them and when choosing melodyne plugin it starts lagging. It's impossible to make edits on melodyne after re-opening project because :/
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06-02-2018, 10:05 AM
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Hi, i can confirm VST3 is perfectly in sync. VST2 is not.
best!
a.
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06-03-2018, 09:58 AM
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Having same problems. Can someone tell me how to enable Melodyne VST3? I was under the impression too, that VST3 was not possible in Reaper. Misguided?
Thanks
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06-03-2018, 10:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanuckProducer
Having same problems. Can someone tell me how to enable Melodyne VST3? I was under the impression too, that VST3 was not possible in Reaper. Misguided?
Thanks
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Hi.
You get the option to install VST2 & 3 (32 and 64bit) during the Melodyne personalised install. If you rerun the installation file Celemony sent you, you can add the VST3 libraries.
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06-04-2018, 07:11 AM
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Thanks, Uncle, but did a reinstall of Melodyne, pointed Reaper to the VST3 folder and still have issues. Had to go back to Reaper 5.8.
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06-04-2018, 10:04 AM
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i have huuge project with melodyne vst2, i cant even delete/offline this - it always crash, how do it?
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06-05-2018, 04:08 AM
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Use the "start project with FX offline " option & remove Melodyne. FWIW its a crapshoot using Melodyne 1 vst2 but once Melodyne 2 is released Reaper WILL fully support it.
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06-05-2018, 10:29 AM
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And version 5.91 puts Melodyne out of whack again.
Back to 5.8, and no problems.
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06-29-2018, 09:51 AM
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I also went back to 5.80 - and everything is in sync again.
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09-15-2018, 01:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by enroe
I also went back to 5.80 - and everything is in sync again.
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Will Cockos fix this? Or we now forever on 5.80
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09-15-2018, 02:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ai101
Will Cockos fix this? Or we now forever on 5.80
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Hi.
I don't know what the root cause is or whether the bug(s) lay with Celemony or Cockos.
However if you use the VST3 version of Melodyne (if you chose not to install the VST3 version you can install it from the personalised Melodyne package Celemony sent you) then it works fine with current versions of Reaper.
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09-15-2018, 02:30 AM
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I suppose "fixing" anything does not make much sense rather short before ARA2 versions of bothe Reaper and Melodyne are to be officially be released.
-Michael
Last edited by mschnell; 09-15-2018 at 02:36 AM.
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09-15-2018, 10:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncleswede
Hi.
I don't know what the root cause is or whether the bug(s) lay with Celemony or Cockos.
However if you use the VST3 version of Melodyne (if you chose not to install the VST3 version you can install it from the personalised Melodyne package Celemony sent you) then it works fine with current versions of Reaper.
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Thanks about that, but what should i do with Microtonic?
Wich have the same problem and dont have VST3 version...
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10-12-2018, 10:56 PM
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Cockos!!!
WILL YOU FIX THIS????!!!!
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10-13-2018, 02:17 AM
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Pre-release Reaper versions (as the ARA2 aware one) are supposed to be discussed in the pre-release forum. There will have more attention by the devs. The "Bugs" forum will only be monitored regarding bugs in the current official version (that does not yet have ARA2 Melodyne - and other appropriate plugins - integration).
-Michael
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10-13-2018, 11:59 PM
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Ok, forget about Melodyne and ARA2.
Problem with SonicCharge Microtonic VST 2.4.
In Reaper 5.80 everythings works fine, but in ALL next versions i have sync problems with the GUI of this plugin!
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10-14-2018, 01:23 AM
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Seems completely unrelated to the thread topic. So better start a new thread, decently explaining what problem you encounter.
-Michael
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